A League Of Their Own / Sports Injury Night in the PNW (Guest: Sarah Eagen)

It's SportsNight here on the Review Review for an in depth film study of "A League Of Their Own" (1990 Dir. Penny Marshall RIP) with our guest commentator, writer/producer/actor and athlete Sarah Eagen! Starring: Gene Davis, Tome Hanks, and Madonna. Coach Jigsaw (Ben) puts us in to discuss Madonna & other good sports, how we endear to characters like Marla for this film (ie Gerry/Garry/Larry/Terry/Barry in Parks & Rec), how playoffs (PLAYOFFS?!) work in small leagues, and the gorgeous natural local team themes of Pacific Northwest sports!

Plot: During World War II, sisters Dottie and Kit join the first female professional baseball league and struggle to help it succeed amid their own growing rivalry.

1hr 46mins

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

Holy smokes, everybody. We're so excited that you were able to join us here on the review review. If you're just joining us for the first time, I'm your co host. My name is Paul. And I am your other co host.

My name is Benjamin. We are normally joined by a very fabulous guest and we are in the usual situation. Would you mind introducing yourself? Sure. My name is Sarah J.

Eagan and I'm so excited to be here today. Yay. Sarah is a TV writer, an actor, and has a background in neuroscience and genetics. Yeah. Which means she's smarter than Paul.

So again, kind of the usual but like, an even extra more extra Yeah. I can't think of it. Even higher than Noir. And Extra extra. Sarah brought the movie A League of Their Own from 1992.

Before we talk about that at Nauseum, we're gonna say, Sarah, what you've been up to? Oh, gosh. You know, doing what I can as the the industry is in the state that it's in, but I just finished a new pilot script that I'm really excited about. I'm working on applying to the Disney TV writing fellowship, which is a big deal. And I just recently AD'd a short for a friend of mine called glitter bombs that is a really powerful story and, just a fun collaboration.

So, yeah, that's that's some of the stuff. I I don't know how much I should say, but yeah. Yeah. No. That's that's a lot of stuff.

What I've been up to. I mean, if there's anything you'd like to, like, toot your horn about at all outside of that, please toot away. Tootan. Yeah. This is, like, kind of old news and also feels like it's in a weird time warp, but I worked on the TV show fatal attraction for over a year, and it was released during the strikes.

And so it felt like sort of a lost moment because I wasn't allowed to, promote it and and talk about it. And, you know, of course, it was a strike casualty, so they did not renew it. But it was such an incredible experience, and I never really got to talk about being in the writer's room, being in production, being on set. I was just I got to be a part of everything, and it was so, so great, you know, starring, Josh Jackson and Lizzy Caplan. And so just, like, these amazing stars that I got to work with, and, yeah, it's a really, really cool experience.

Even though it's a little little delayed, it still feels like I haven't really gotten to to celebrate that yet. So Can can I ask you a specific nerdy question then as I do subscribe to Paramount and did watch the show and enjoy it very much? Oh, great. Oh, great. I'm so glad to hear that.

Lizzie Kaplan puts on a YouTub sweatshirt at a point based is that you? That was not me. Oh, no. Yeah. That was already yeah.

That was already, part of our showrunner, yeah, having Alex start in in Seattle and going to law school at UW and and things like that. And, of course, we had to we had to finagle some of those things with clearances, but, but, yeah, I thought that wasn't actually me. I had to know. I had to know. Yeah.

Well Yeah. No. Fair question. Fair question. Paul, what have you been up to?

Oh, holy smokes. I really appreciate you asking me that question. You're welcome. I read for pleasure. Not something one would expect, but I just read Paul Scheer's memoir ish, Joyful Recollections of Trauma.

Oh. Is this an appropriate time to use, like, trigger warning or what? It's like it's it's, yeah, it's pretty rough at times, but if a subject matter that interests you or what have you, I mean, I breezed through that thing and I mean like 26, 28 hours breezed through. So if it's something you can again, move the words right there. Yeah.

Ben. I wanna read that book. I like Paul Scheer a lot. Yeah. I would be happy to loan.

Please do. I would or the library library. I mean, I can also I can also purchase it and support him myself. That's awesome too. That's a great idea.

I just well, I recently finished teaching a residency at a military school. Woah. Oh, cool. Teaching a theater go. And that was one of the most unusual experiences of my life.

And it was fascinating and eye opening. And, also, there were times where it was like, oh, yeah. These kids are really like, like, they're paying attention. They're really present. And there are other times where I was like, oh, no.

These kids are scared of discipline. So there was They need more discipline. Yeah. There was a weird it was a weird, juxtaposition of these different energies, especially when you're teaching theater. Yeah.

So, anyway, that was Were you expected to, like, report misbehavior or anything? The weird part is, like, their standards of misbehavior were not the same as mine. And so that wasn't clearly communicated at times. And so in especially doing improv, they're pulling from things that are they're familiar with in their life, and some of them come from, like, pretty Mhmm. Strong gang backgrounds.

And so they're pulling things from that where in a place where, I guess, they're not allowed to talk about gangs or violence or drugs or whatever. Interesting. And so there were like, if they're doing an improv and someone's, I don't know, referencing, like, one of yeah. Anyway, it So you're also a part time therapist. It, you know, it got to a point where one of the teachers was trying to explain to me what she thinks the lesson plan should have been, which is a really great thing to explain to somebody.

Mhmm. And it she was explaining to it. She's like, maybe you can just, like, when when you have the students, you can sit around and they can each, like, tell us their story of how they came here, and you can kinda, like, lead them through that and facilitate it. And I was like, I'm not a therapist. Yeah.

That sounds like that sounds like group. So Yeah. Can we discuss my payment structure again? Is that possible? Are we gonna continue on this trajectory?

But it made me I was like, they should be in therapy here. Like Yeah. If that's not a thing they're receiving in this facility, then you guys are not doing the job. Do you have you ever felt like you have to be like, has anyone seen Joker? Like, do you have to be that contemporary?

Wednesday? It was yeah. Because sometimes you just gotta help people. I know. Anyway, well, we are going to transition into one of our favorite segments.

It's a good one. It is called, what are you watching? Sarah, what have you been watching? Oh, gosh. I feel like there's been there's been so much, fun fun new stuff coming out recently.

So I I chose 2 to talk about today. I'm watching the new season of doctor who Oh, yeah. Which is is technically, like, rebranded as a new series or something. When you look on IMDB, it's, like, starting in 2023. Oh, really?

It's not if it's the first season. Yeah. Like the 15th if it's because the collab wait. I don't know if it's doctor is this. Collaboration with Disney.

Because it is still the 15th doctor. Yeah. I noticed that, especially after the Christmas episode, they did a lot of explaining overexplaining the world, which they always do a little bit of that with new companions and things, but it was, like, much more, and I wonder if that's why. If they are assuming that they're getting new audiences now that they're on Disney. But it's really fun.

The first couple of episodes were really goofy and silly, and then the last 2 the most recent 2 were much more serious and and contemplative. And he he brings such a cool energy to the role, and it's been I've been really enjoying it. Yeah. Have you been watching then? Yeah.

You watched the most recent episode? I did. Yes. It the the way that I can explain it to people is, I think Russell t Davis, he brings a level of camp to it that I think started to started to dissipate a little bit with Steven Moffat and then completely disappeared with, what was his name? Chris Chisholm.

Whoever was the Broadchurch showrunner who came in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it and it lost a little bit of fun.

And now I feel like he's brought some of that fun back, which I'm sad that Jody Jody didn't get to have more fun. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

But the we're still, like the first couple of episodes were so silly. I felt like, oh, okay. They're going back to that. And then, again, these last couple of episodes were much more grounded and really interesting concepts that they explored. So they're just really showing the range this season already, so I'm excited to see what else they bring.

Yeah. And they already had Steven Moffat. Lovely person. Steven Moffat wrote and directed an episode, or he wrote 1. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. Which and he did the he did Matt Smith's doctor. So, like, it's cool. They're kinda Is Matt Smith your favorite doctor?

Oh, Oh, no. My favorite doctor is David Tennant. Hands down. Oh, great. Great.

Okay. We don't need to have that work then. Cool. Yeah. I don't I don't think I go as deep as either of you in terms of doctors, but I it sounds like you all agree.

Because for me, it's like Christopher Eccleston, Matt Smith, and David Tennant, and, like, little Those are pretty, very different. You have to make one choice. But, like, David Tennant would is my preference. Okay. Okay.

Everything's okay. It is a those are final words. No. True. They are.

They are. It's Anything else? Point of contention in my marriage. It's Oh, no. It's fine.

Yeah. My husband prefers math. It's fine. What was your other, thing you're watching? The other thing I've been watching is Dead Boy Detectives.

A couple of years ago, I had the opportunity to interview Beth Schwartz. At the time, she was showrunning Arrow, and we've been able to keep in touch a bit. And she is one of the executive producers on this. So it's a Neil Gaiman series. It's a it's not a spin off of Sandman, but it is in the Sandman universe.

Have you watched Sandman? Yeah. Okay. Great. I don't wanna spoil anything.

One of my favorite characters from Sandman recently makes an appearance. So I'm halfway through it, and it's just really fun. It's fast paced and quirky, and it's this great mix of spooky and quirky and serious and fun. And, Oh, rad. It is really fun.

Yeah. Enjoying that. So Yeah. It's a really fun show. I love Netflix.

The only the only thing I have against it is that it's set in Port Townsend and definitely shot in Vancouver. Uh-huh. Yes. Oh, Canada? 100%.

Canada? Yeah. No. Paul's from Vancouver, Washington. Wow.

I almost got, like, involuntarily promoted. That was your reason. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you, man.

He's from the Vancouver Thank you. That no one wants to be from. Oh. Incorporated first, I think. I was told.

You're basically you're basically in Oregon. I mean, I always just say Portland. Where anyone asks. Yeah. Portland.

Ripp City, baby. Ripp City. Leave that in. It's easier. Ben?

Yeah. Oh, me. What do you want? Oh, I get to go next. Exciting.

Well, why not? That was exciting. Yeah. I went to the movie theater. Woah.

I got my popcorn. Got my little soda. Did you take the dune bucket top thing? No. They they Does that stay in the case?

I don't believe they ever I never saw those sold, the dune buckets. I feel like they were Oh, really? I never saw them sold at the movie theater. No. I think they were going to, and then everyone was said they're gonna fuck it.

So they stopped so they stopped selling it. No. They were saying bucket. Fair. That's fair.

Oh. Total misunderstanding. Yeah. Yeah. What?

I saw Furiosa, a Mad Max saga Yeah. Or a Mad Max story, whatever it's called. Thoroughly enjoyed it. I am a big fan of Fury Road. Yeah.

A big fan of of all the Road Warrior Mad Max movies, but Fury Road and this one, it just kinda continues George Miller's ability to film the shit out of just one, the same action sequence, which is a truck going one direction and a bunch of people trying to get on it. Yeah. And he does it over and over and over and over and still somehow makes it really entertaining and fun and exciting and different and and new. Right. It made me think.

I was like, god. If only there was a franchise that was all about car racing that could, you know, film it differently and make things more exciting every time. And escalate it to the point where it's like, let's just take it to space. Yeah. Fuck it.

I said forget about it, k. So, anyway, Furiosa for, I haven't given a thought of I'll say 4 doll heads, for, Furiosa. Your rating piques my interest even a little more. My non spoiler my non spoiler review that I wrote was Kingdoms of the Planet Dune Part 2 Metal Storm. I like that.

Metal Storm from Fall from Fall Guys. Yeah. That's why I was like, interesting. Fall Guy? Where can I where can I read this review?

Yeah. You can read that review on Letterboxd. I you can follow me on Letterboxd at run b m c. Well, that was a really Thanks for serving that. Opportunity taken.

That's a softball. That's softball. Yeah. Why not? Yep.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. We're doing great.

Side note. What do you what? You still think speed rules, right? Like, speed is great. Speed's great.

Oh, good. Okay. I was talking about because we're a fast franchise. No. You're talking about the family.

Right? Yes. But people getting on and off of moving vehicles, speed is way up there for me. So I wanna make sure Yeah. You're not saying anything bad about speed.

Well, speed 2, cruise control. Okay. That's when you start saying something bad about speed. So Paul Stop it. What have you been watching other than speed 2 cruise control on on loop?

I'm gonna say this because I have a tendency not to talk about it much. I enjoy the NBA. I've been watching the NBA playoffs. I've been watching the WNBA a little bit. It's all wonderful.

Basketball is so much more enjoyable than it's been in a long time across so many different formats, college, women's, college men's, women's professional, men's professional. Watch basketball, people. It's wonderful. More enjoyable in what way? Like, the the matchups are even, or did something change to make it more enjoyable?

I think definitely that rosters and gelling of rosters plays a point in young guys and young ladies progressing. But, also, like, high pick and roll, flashes in and out, open shots. And, there was this thing in the NBA, WNBA that was happening where, if you're watching, like, shooters are creating fouls where they're, like, contorting their body as they were releasing the ball, and that was counting as a foul. And it made it nearly watchable for a couple of few years, and that's gone. That's true.

And so and it's they've been letting them play more. I feel like again, like, I hate to sound like I'm in my eighties, but it's just a thing where it's like they've been there's I can hear you. Yeah. There's just, like, more contact allowed. I feel like in the paint, which is nice.

Like, you wanna see a little bit more physical basketball especially in the playoffs, and that's been nice. Thank you for asking. I wanna see you, like, talk about this forever and ever. I love that you throw out these terms, like, in the paint. I think I know what that means.

I I I'm just my auntie nodding. So I I I tried out for my junior high basketball team in 8th grade. Yeah. And everyone starts in 1 gym altogether. And then they start then they're like, okay.

These kids who aren't as good go to the JV gym. I went to the JV gym. Sure. And it was like, these kids who aren't as good go to the regionals gym, which is Regis was what we called it, which meant like, we're gonna let you play, but you're not good. And so then I was like, our Regis gym was at the elementary school.

And I, like, walked to the elementary school for it, and I went, you know what? No. Maybe this isn't my path. Oh, wow. I'm good.

Yeah. That was the moment. Okay. Yeah. Pretty young.

Wow. Sounds slow. Yeah. I played, like, pig and horse in my driveway, and that was my basketball experience. So This this was part of the reason, like, a league of their own when it starts with, like, the basketball thing, of course, like, I'm like, oh.

Like, Like, I just literally stopped watching a playoff game to turn this this movie on, and I'm like, oh, more basketball. So, like, I'm excited. So I finally watched William Friedkin sorcerer. I've never seen it. I've never seen that.

It's the follow-up to The Exorcist. Either. Oh, follow-up to The like his first movie he made after it? Yeah. Stars Roy Scheider of Oh.

Jaws. Of Jaws? Yeah. And a lot of folks had told me, like, oh, the taughtness is that of, like, an uncut gems to give it, like, a very modern contemporary reference. Disagree, but I really enjoyed the movie overall.

And, John Mulaney's Everybody's in LA. My girlfriend and I have finished that pretty quickly and love the whole, like, opening with Wang Chung, etcetera, etcetera. And it feels like a regional or, like, hyper localish talk show. Mhmm. Has anyone else watched this?

I have. Yeah. I haven't watched it yet. I just if you've watched any of that type of stuff for, like, almost live in Seattle was something that was like a hyper there are little sketches that happen in that show that are, like, oh, that feel kinda similar to some of that stuff, which was cool. Yeah.

Right. It's also the opening of that with John Mulaney talking at the map of Los Angeles is probably the best bit. It's very strong opening. Yeah. It's that and then us doing what dreams may come.

As our first episode? And then who knows what. Those are so far above everything else. If we have nothing else we wanna talk about that we're watching, we're gonna talk about some facts. Let's do it.

I would love that. Archaeology is the search for facts. Did I ever tell you my, Jay Leno story? I don't know. Sarah brought us a league of their own.

It is a Columbia Pictures Sony 1992. It was rated PG. There's some words in there. There's some and it is 2 hours and 8 minutes. The budget was 40,000,000 adjusted that is 89.4.

Opening weekend, July 1, 1992 in the United States. It made 13 point 7,000,000 in the US, adjusted that is 30.6. Final gross, North America, 107,500,000 adjusted that is 240.2. Final gross worldwide, a 132.4 adjusted 295 point 9. Yes.

Does anybody get else get blown away when they hear, like, cumulatives, like, over weekends? It's all yeah. Yes. It just feels so alien. I mean, it's a baseball movie released in the summer.

Mhmm. You have Gina Davis and you have Tom Hanks. And I think that that's just that's just bringing everybody to the and it's the 4th July. Is this around 4th July? Yeah.

So does anybody else think it's July 1st. Does Does anybody else think it's weird that Tom Hanks' first build? I mean, I I this is a Gina Davis movie. I think we can talk about that when we get into it. I think there that is a that is a valid Fine.

Fine. No. No. I think you have a valid argument. Okay.

Fine. We'll get back to it. Fine. Other releases this weekend, Boomerang? Eddie Eddie Murphy, Halle Berry.

Halle Berry. I'm pretty sure. That's me. Never heard of it. Okay.

Weekend top 5, Bortman reboots, this film, Boomerang, Sister Act, and unlawful entry. Oh my god. Sister Act. Unlawful entry, a movie I rewatched recently, but definitely didn't feel as good as I did about Sister Act. So probably should have spent that time rewatching Sister Act.

Yes? In I'll ask around the table. A quick anecdote about Sister Act. When I was in choir in 9th grade, we sang what's the song that they all sing? Oh, fuck.

What is the song? They they sing at the end of Sister Act out on the street. Oh, lord. I can't oh, lord. Yeah.

I can't remember. I really can't remember. There's a lot of clapping because it's Yes. It was about like I didn't know choir. People on the street join hands.

People on the beat. Is that what it is? Anyway No. Probably. There's a rap in there a little train.

Motion. Yeah. I don't remember what it was, but there's a rap. There's, like, a quick, like, rap in there, and it ends with Like, of a gift? G o d, yeah, you know me.

G o d, yeah, you know me. Because of Sister Act. Are we sure this isn't Sister Act 2 back in the habit starring Lauryn Hill? I think from the Fugees. Oh.

And what is considered a top 5 hip hop album ever, the miseducation of Lauryn Hill? Perhaps. Because that one really revolved around, like, that one went hip hop culture big time. Maybe it is. Maybe it is.

Okay. Because she ends up, like, teaching. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Anyway, I had the I had the hip hop solo in that moment. That's that's the only thing I was gonna say. Okay. Alright. Clave to the fame.

Yeah. In 9th grade choir. Ben, what were the top five films of this year? And stop talking about it. Batman Half Return.

He did. Lethal Weapon 3, Sister Act, Home Alone 2 Lost in New York, and Wayne's World. Party Time. Party on, Wayne. Party on, Ben.

Party on. I I have too much respect. Other films from 1992, A Few Good Men, Father of the Bride, Patriot Games, Beef Oven, JFK You know that sounds The Mighty Ducks, Cuffs, Mr. Baseball, Juice, and Paul's favorite movie, Under Siege. I don't care.

I plan That you said that. It doesn't matter to me. That's fine. It's a Steven Seagal movie, and it's fine. How many of those movies have you seen, Sarah?

I mean, half of them, maybe? I think I'm on that. I think I'm on the half. It's the same dude he put Mighty Ducks. All the Mighty Ducks.

Oh. Other the Brides, Beethoven, Mr. Baseball. I don't know if that is true. Tom Selleck?

What about JFK? Back and to the left. Back and JFK is the go to movie to guess when you're trying to figure out someone or, like, if some if you think of some person from the nineties and you can't figure out what movie they're in because JFK had so many people in it. That so that's part of the reason I won't seem hard on the cast on this. Yeah.

Because there are just so many, like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Well, then we better keep going. Yeah.

Letterboxd average of this movie is 3.8. Again, you can follow me on Letterboxdrunbmc. I am at Paul acts badly. Cisco Niebert, 2 thumbs up. Rotten Tomatoes, 81%.

Medicredit, 69 dudes. Major award wins and nominations, not applicable. I'm going to throw it to Paul to talk about all of these people. I'm gonna bare hand catch it. Nice.

Yeah. That's what I'm gonna do. Directed by the great Patti Marshall, Laverne herself. RIP, big, awakenings. And another Whoopi Goldberg movie, a movie called Jumpin' Jack Flash.

Great movie, sneakers, the Internet, the whole thing. It's wonderful. Writers, Kim Wilson, and Kelly Candidell primarily worked on this, film as as well as it looked like the TV shows. Lowell Ganz, Parenthood, and Babalu Mandel, multiplicity. Director of photography was Miroslav Odringek, RIP, Hair, FX, and not my favorite movie, but maybe the best movie, Amadeus.

I'm just who knows? That's crazy that he did Amadeus. Music, Hans Zimmer. Yeah, man. Who I guess mostly does sequels.

No Time TO Die, Top Gun Maverick, Dune part 2, and then a bunch of Marvel. Well, a bunch of sequels. Bunch of Conan, Conan? No. A bunch of Conan the Barbarian movies.

Yeah. Oh, cool, man. Yeah. I remember that differently, but it was Basil. I was trying to say Chris Nolan, and I combined his first initial with his last name, and I said Conan.

Needs a friend. That's a podcast. The producer. That. Oh, you have it.

The preacher's wife and Robert Greenhut, working girl. Tom Hanks was Jimmy, a man called auto radio flyer and cloud assless? You okay? Yeah. Because it's my joke.

It's my joke from the last episode. That's right. Okay. So it's so funny. Yeah.

Gina Davis was Dottie, the fly, the long kiss good night, and a little movie called Earth Girls Are Easy. A fantastic comedy. That's the one that we did with Keiko was Earth Girls Are Easy. Another Gina Davis. Lori Petty was Kit, point break.

That's a 5 star movie. Tank girl, free Willie. Rosie O'Donnell was Doris. Stakeout, another stakeout. Sleepless in Seattle, The Flintstones.

Madonna was May. Evita desperately seeking Susan. Body of evidence. Megan Kavanaugh. Marla, Dracula Dead and Loving It.

Robin Hood Men in Tights, Big Stan. Tracy Reiner. Betty, Die Hard, Pretty Woman, The Princess Diaries. Biddy Schram was Evelyn, primarily TV. David Strathairn was Ira.

Sneakers, maybe the best cast ever. Sneakers. Good. Debate that everyone. Think about that.

Throw that out there. Good night and good luck. And the river wild, really fantastic Meryl Streep, Kevin Bacon movie. Jon Lovitz. I just wanna keep saying movie titles to Ben.

Jon Lovitz, Ernie, trapped in paradise, the wedding singer, rat race. Bill Pullman, Bob, the grudge, independence day while you were sleeping. I would list so many more. Give us those fun facts, Sarah. Fun facts, everybody.

It's fun fact time. Yeah. So this, A League of Their Own, has been produced as a television show twice. I didn't actually realize that it was the first time in 1993 Yeah. With a pilot directed by Penny Marshall.

And a lot of the cast, including her father, the celebrated director and philanthropist Gary Marshall, r I p, at Harvey, And then most recently, by Amazon in an award winning, version starring and creative by Abi Jacobson from Broad City I haven't seen it. I loved. I I thought it was so oh, it was so great. They really went much deeper into issues of the day, racism and, homophobia and things like that, and, explored it in a really beautiful, beautiful way. It's, like, even more intersectional.

Really disappointed that it hasn't been renewed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was only 1 season. But we're it was expected to get renewed because it did really well.

Did Nick okay. I haven't seen it, but just does Nick Offerman play Tom the Tom Hanks role? Essentially. Yeah. Okay.

He's the manager. Yeah. Cool. During filming of the World Series games, stars of the movie took turns entertaining the unpaid extras. Can't get away with that these days.

Yeah. Of course, you'll just AI them, so it's fine. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks did puppet shows over the dugout, and Rosie O'Donnell did stand up comedy, and various actors pretended to be Madonna and sang her songs because she was not, interested in singing her songs for the extras. So I mean, she she shouldn't have to.

No. Not at all. Yeah. Fair. I think you're a pretty good I think you're a pretty good sport, especially if, like, you remained cool with people.

If they were like, yeah. We're gonna kinda, like, roast you and do your songs. If she was like, okay. Fine. Exactly.

You're a good sport. That's cool. Exactly. Absolutely. Many of the bruises, the cuts, and the bumps and scrapes seen on the, actresses, on the characters throughout the film were real.

The strawberry bruise that Renee Coleman received, which is super rough Yeah. When she was seeing it sliding, into base remained on her leg for a year. And I played softball and can attest to that injury. You've had one like that? Like, that lasted, like Not not to that.

No. And and But, I mean, some are pretty pretty rough either way. Exactly. Yeah. Definitely rough.

Only if you forget your sliding shorts. So, you know, we always wore sliding shorts, which were padded shorts that you wear under your uniform to help. And, you know, I I like that in the movie, they make a big deal about the girls having to play in Yeah. Ridiculous skirts, instead of Yeah. Actual ballgame.

That's why that's why you don't have, like, ballplayers playing in in, like, basketball shorts. They have to play in long pants. Yeah. I I Exactly. Quick anecdote.

The socks that should be above the pants, we should be able to see the high socks. With shin guards. I agree. One time I was playing, like, just friendly softball with friends, and I was wearing shorts, slid into 3rd. And it was like a real it was like the middle of summer, so it was hot and you dusted.

Okay. And I slid in the 3rd and, like, I think I was safe, but I remember being like, oh, that kinda hurt when I just did that. But I'm like, adrenaline was high and what I was covered in dirt. So I couldn't tell if I was injured or not. This is weird but I ended up having to go to a Hall and Oates concert that night.

And I was this was in Seattle and I just got on my bike from the Who'd you go with? From, Charles Norris. I thought maybe you went with a rich girl or something. Oh, I don't know. Charles Norris, guest of this podcast.

Yeah. Yeah. But I had to meet him there. So I just got on my bike from the baseball game, rode to the to the concert, went to the concert, enjoyed the show, maybe had a couple of beers, came home, was so late, I just passed out, like, went to sleep. I was covered in dirt, whatever.

I woke up at, like, 2 in the morning, and I was shivering. And I was like, what what have I done? What is what has happened? And I got in the shower, and the dirt and blood just start, like, coming off my leg. It was like it was like a gas Yeah.

That big Oh, wow. That had just started, like, all the dirt and pebbles and stuff were in it. Yep. And cleaned it. Oh my god.

It was so painful. It lasted for weeks. I I would love to talk about like weird injury stories or painful injury stories. I could do that all day too, but I feel like I can We should keep going. I'm gonna let it go.

Okay. I'll let it go. Just one time. We'll keep going. I will tell one story which is that, I once slid into a home.

I was trying to steal home, playing fast pitch softball, and catcher was blocking, you know, as was her job to try to get me out. And, I broke my ankle sliding into the Holy shit. So yep. Like a clean had to come and get me. No.

Like, both sides of my ankle. Oh my god. I was in the hospital for a week. I got nightmares. Screws in my ankle.

Break. Oh. Yes. Oh. Yes.

Yeah. Oh, no. So that's for softball injuries. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

There's no crying in baseball. But sure. But most importantly, were you safe? Later. Later.

I was not safe. It's the worst part of that. You'll never forget. Like, you had to ask. You had to ask.

I know. I had to know. I will be able to Like you said like you said, Ben, like, adrenaline was going. So, like, I knew I knew something was wrong. I I literally laid there until the ambulance came and got me, but I wasn't in pain.

Like, enough adrenaline was running through my system that I was standing there, like, cracking jokes. And my coaches were standing over me laughing, and all of my teammates were like, how could they be laughing right now? But, you know, I was saying things like, yes. I should've stayed a 3rd. You know?

And so I was, like, making people laugh because everyone I can see the, like, worry on their patients, and I felt fine. I was just laying in the dirt. You were a good sport about it. You're just like, this isn't the best, but I'm gonna smile through this. Holy shit.

Yep. Alright. Let's keep going with this fun fact. Alright. I have more fun facts.

Yeah. I have more fun facts. The characters at the baseball hall of fame and the characters that you see playing ball when the credits are rolling are real original players from the league that are portrayed in the film, which I love. I love when movies do that. Yeah.

Me too. Darling. Darling. The story line was inspired by the career of baseball legend, Dottie Collins, who was a pitcher as was I. So we have that.

Nice. During during World War 2, she played for the All American Girls Professional Baseball League and threw 17 shutouts during her 6 year career. Amazing. Fucking incredible. A shutout.

Yeah. Yes. Oh my gosh. I've I have a question. Okay.

Why would you make her a catcher? Like, I mean, I guess I'd take the anchor of it. I I just don't know. Isn't isn't her sister? Her her sister is the pitcher in the movie.

So I guess maybe you it's her. Yeah. Maybe. I mean They would they're the ones that win. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I also wonder if it's, like, that moment when Dottie comes back and Jimmy is talking to the catcher thinking that it's Alice, and then there's the reveal that it's Dottie. It's usually usually either the catcher or the pitcher that is the captain of the team, so I wonder if that's kind of a fun misdirection that they wanted to use.

That would be part of your pitching. Yeah. I I think, like, you bring up a really good point that, like, the catcher and the manager probably have a pretty intimate Just like in Major League? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I'm done. I was just, like, I was curious. Yeah.

The catcher is giving you know, just like if we see the scene of Dottie and Jimmy fighting giving signs to Marla Mhmm. When she's at at bat, the catcher gives signs to the pitcher as well. Like, that's you know, like, of what pitch to throw next. Yeah. So it would make sense that she would she would be the one with that knowledge.

Yeah. Yeah. Last fun fact. Not even Tom Hanks knew when he was going to be done peeing in the first scene when he goes in and meets the team. Penny Marshall was in the stall with a hose and a bucket making the noise, which I think is hilarious because That's incredible.

Does he commit? You know? Like, if you don't even know when it's gonna be over. I think that's great. Oh, gosh.

That's so fun. Too. And then Like pros pros. Yeah. And so fun for the cast Good sports.

To have to just be there and be there. Yeah. I mean, levels of good sports. Yeah. So we have a surprise.

Our surprise is, if you were to guess, what is the log line of this movie? And it's something that you can create right now off top of your head. Yeah. Pitch this k. You know, in in a elevator ride.

Pitch it. 1st floor to the 3rd floor. Pitch it. Yeah. Rise ball?

K. Alright. Okay. While the men are off at war in World War 2, Women take up the mantle of professional baseball, but face discrimination and general disdain. Yeah.

I felt the big thing when I was reading this log line. I was like, why aren't you talking about that there's a war on? It's the one that so the the log line What's she talking about that there's a war on? The log line feat it it kinda focuses down a little bit. 2 sisters join the 1st female professional baseball league and struggle to help it succeed amid their own growing rivalry.

So I think it does miss a little bit of the mess. That's the relationship for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I still the war is so important.

Yeah. And I feel like it's overarching through the movie. Yeah. I would like that noted to some degree. Yeah.

I think that was very good. Thank you for taking on our challenge. We are The worst surprise in the world. We it's not the worst. We're brought to you by bad surprises.

I was gonna say I would have liked a couple of, like, rewrites, but it's fine. Yeah. I was gonna say we're brought to you by gruesome injuries, but that that can be a bad surprise. I can That can be a bad surprise. Work with that as we yeah.

You don't know an injury you don't know an injury is coming, especially when you're sliding into 1st and you feel a great big burst. I feel Diarrhea. Oh, god. Stop reading my mind on so many levels. We're only we're only highest level of standards.

Oh, yeah. We are gonna take a look at it. Will you stick around, Sarah? I will. I will stick around.

I need to see, I need to see what happens. Alright. We're gonna come back and we're gonna talk about this movie from the top. So we'll be right back. Ouch.

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You can follow Ben on letterboxed at run b m c. And now, here's your unpleasant surprise. My weird injury story. One day, a rainy day in the Pacific Northwest, I was running out of the backdoor exit of my mom's house and I slipped on a piece of plywood that was kinda half broken in the middle where it wasn't broken all the way through but it was just kinda split and there were thousands and thousands of like little spikes that were sticking out of that area. I ran to my car through the wet backyard, got something from my car.

I was very excited because I needed this thing from my car to complete registration for a movie preview. And I slipped on the wood, the wet split wood. Something didn't feel right. As I stood, I didn't wanna look around, check my foot, check my leg, anything. I ran into my mother's home and I sat down on the kitchen floor and I yelled mother mother.

My mother came and, I said is anything wrong with my foot and she let out a blood curdling scream. The cat scattered, in the downstairs and the upstairs noises, panic everywhere. And she's like, are you fucking kidding? Are you fucking kidding? What did you do?

And I looked down at my foot and there's this rotten sharp old wood about a 3 inch long by quarter inch wide spike. About 2 little more than 2 inches of it has entered my foot through the webbing of my toes between my big toe and my long toe on my left foot and I had to have that surgically removed, which I did have surgically removed pretty much immediately. So I could attend this premiere, which I did. I'm on crutches. My foot's wrapped up, the whole thing.

I am, at that time, playing Bertram Cates in a stage production of inherit the wind. And I stand up at the end of this movie in a line for a really long q and a for the actor who had starred in the movie, who appeared for the q and a as part of a promotion of the movie, etcetera. And, I have free passes for him to come see inherit the wind, and he lets me ask the last question because I stood forever on crutches. And he takes the passes and says, I'll think about it and yada yada yada. That night, I'm fired from that production of Inhair at the Wind.

I can be a bit of a a little rebel. Don't always follow exact direction, didn't like that. And also, like, how good was I really? The following day, that actor attended using the free passes I had given, and it was explained that I was fired. That actor was very sad and disappointed apparently.

And that actor's name, Kevin, allegedly Could have been worse? So now you've gotten everyone's weird injury story. Surprise. Back to the show. And we're back.

We've been sitting here for 7 innings. It is a 7 inning stretch. Paul has injured himself. It's just my back. It's just my back.

It is a bad surprise. It's just a gruesome nightmare. And, good surprise is Sarah J Egan is still with us. Oh. Woo hoo.

And Leading coach. We are we are Ready to play. About to I know it's a 17th inning stretch, but we're just gonna start playing right now. Let's rock and roll. So we like to play a little game called cinephile.

You sound like jigsaw when you say it. Little bit. Wait. Can I try better? No.

Brevity is the soul of wit. Do you want to play a game? That's it's it's somehow less unsettling. So we have a card here for you that has an actor's name on it. It also has a movie.

That movie is your freebie, and we'll go around the horn. You got it. The first person who loses, which usually ends up being one of us. Yeah. It we'll just share their original experience with the movie A League of Their Own as well as their, more recent experience.

And they're ranking out of 5 if that's changed in between those experiences. Great. You ready for your card? Ready. Okay.

Notoriously horrible at this game. This is one of the my mind immediately goes blank. Yeah. It's like I've never seen a movie before. Yeah.

It's gonna be a shared experience. It happens to me too. Here you go. David Fox. Your freebie is collateral.

Collateral. That's your freebie. David Fox. Collateral. Ray.

I will say amazing Spider Man 2. That's correct. Amazing Spider Man 1. Oh. Sorry.

That's alright. No. I'm the the only other one I could think was Baby Driver that I was stuck. I mean my next go to was gonna be Spiderman No Way Home because that's when he burns. I knew he was in 2 of them, and I could not remember the other one.

Yeah. Could not. No worries. Sarah, it's your movie. Original experience, and you're more recent.

Yeah. I mean, I watched this movie young. My dad was a baseball player, and I started playing baseball very young, to the point where I was, like, the only girl on these teams. And I remember getting to the point where I was told, like, you can no longer play baseball. It's only for boys.

And I had to then switch to a slow pitch softball, which was excruciating because there was no stealing, and the pitching was so bad. We would get 6 balls 6 balls and 3 strikes instead of 4 balls and 3 strikes. Yes. That's a lot. Rough.

And then when I then when I was in 6th grade, I got to switch to fast pitch softball. It was much more similar to baseball, and I started pitching, and I I played through college. So fast pitch softball, wonderful sport. Love it a lot. Partially because of that, I think I really related to this movie to the sort of gender politics that play in even as a young kid.

And, yeah, this was a movie that I remembered fondly. And so I I would say that my original rating is 4 out of 5 tiers. And Are you crying? Yeah. No.

Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no crying. There's no crying in baseball. And then I was pretty nervous to rewatch it, I would say.

Like, I was pretty nervous. 92 was a long time ago, but I really I really enjoyed it. I felt like it held up. I would say I would say my rating is 4.25 years Oh, no. They're pretty old.

Quarter points. I don't know. Yeah. You do. Yep.

You get it. I feel like there were jokes that I definitely understood as an adult that I did not understand when I watched it as a kid. Yeah. And there was definitely some things that rubbed me the wrong way a little bit that I'll talk about when we talk about the movies. But, generally, the lines were so funny and quippy, and, I thought the dynamics between the characters were really great.

And there was just a lot more there. It was much more layered than I remembered it being. Yeah. And I enjoyed it. And I also love that, one fun fact that we didn't share is that the women were all really playing.

They didn't have stunt doubles. That's awesome. In fact, Geena Davis was, like, the only one who had a stunt double and only for very limited things. Like, she couldn't she could do the splits, but she couldn't slide into the splits. So she had a stunt double, like, slide.

Yeah. And she did Rad. Catch the ball, you know, and, like, catching it behind her back and stuff. Like, she did that. And, yeah, all all the women were really playing, which which I thought was was really cool.

Yeah. It's fantastic. I mean, that's how they got the shit beat out of them. Like, she had that thing for a fucking year. And that level That's wild.

That level of people I don't think people fully understand when you're filming a movie playing at that level is different than like, you're you're you're not just doing that once, you're doing that play several times. Right. You know? So it's exhausting and I'm sure they got into great shape. Like, just sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sacrifice. No crying in baseball.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like Tom Cruise just goes full full speed running like we did in minority report. Yeah. You know?

In everything. Absolutely. They all went full speed. Poe, first experience. I watched this in some summer on cable.

I remember specifically, like, not feeling well and just being, like, mesmerized by this. I was like, colors and jokes and baseball. It's like, it's a movie that's like it's almost like it ingrains itself in you. It's like it's something that good baseball movies do. Right?

We've talked about a few on this all this program already. And, I really liked it. I would have given it a 4 out of 5 as well. Watching it more recently, last night to be specific, I almost walked away with a 3.5. Mhmm.

I'm going to justify. Sorry, Ben. I know. I'm gonna do it though. Okay.

Because this used to be my playground, and this used to be my podcast, and that song bumped me out. And I almost went to a 3a half. But I thought so fondly of this movie after the movie was over and not as much about the song until this moment, I still walked away with a 4. I'm really excited to I feel like I'm gonna learn some things in this episode because some of the things are era specific that I I think some stuff still kind of, like I think this is one of those things that I'm, like, ready to be, like, zoned into. Like, I it was, like, why'd they make her a catcher?

Yeah. Like, I I'm interested in these things. So I'm still at a 4 out of 5. There are some things for me, I think it's, like, writing stuff where it's, like, there are just so many characters. And I want moments or closure for a lot of them.

Some get them, some don't. Yeah. Ben, tell me tell me your experiences. So I'm, this is in that era where I'm I'm fairly sure this was either a common rotation from Blockbuster. Like, we just routinely rented it.

And I think that would have been my brother, guest of this podcast, Derek McFadden, because he has always been more of the baseball fanatic. But it I I remember seeing it at a very young age and loving it and, thinking it was funny and fun and, loving the baseball moments and the, the era that it was set in was really cool. I loved the period piece elements. Yeah. And if there's one, we usually get to pick one clip to play, from each movie.

And I think it's pretty it seems like it should be there's no crying in baseball. We've referred to it too many times to not because it's one of the most famous lines ever written. Are you crying? No. Are you crying?

Are you crying? There's no crying. There's no crying in baseball. And it lives on forever. Plus, it gets such a beautiful, like, resolution at the end Yes.

Where he's so mad Yes. And he doesn't. Yes. You know? Which is, like, such a cool scene also.

Yeah. We've talked about on the, Burbs episode how irritated Hanks is such a great Hanks. Well, and like this it's a weird thing that he's so good at showing this, like, emotional genesis or growth by, like, containing it like more so. Yeah. As things progress, and I wanna say real quick because I've given myself the floor.

I give it 4 sports skirts question mark. Oh. I mean there are tennis skirts, but like I was worrying all day. Also, the the opposing team has longer skirts. They do?

The green team, they have longer they have longer skirts. Yeah. I and they That's news to me. Yeah. That team they're the only team with that short of skirts.

I was like, what? They arranged those teams, like, really specifically. Right? Yeah. For specific, like, weird reasoning.

Like, creepy reasons. Yeah. Exactly. I give it 4 out of 5 grapefruits. She's throwing grapefruits out there.

Nice. Nice. I I gotta say, like, real quick too. Like, I had an excitement level coming into this kinda like I did with, Major League or Field of Dreams. Like, do you is it a baseball thing for y'all as well?

We all rated this kinda high. I mean, I I think, you know I mean, it certainly is for me. You know? Like, the baseball, softball, like, that's just in my DNA, and, definitely, you know, there's just nothing like that team. It's definitely definitely partially I've spent thousands of hours in, you know, ball fields.

So Wow. This certifies Partially. Definitely. You certify this movie for me a little there. Like, I I like that.

Like, it's like I give it a high rating. I feel good about that. I think it is and we've we've had another we've had tubes, other baseball movies, and we had a racing movie. But we've talked about it briefly before we start the movie, which I really wanna do. Yeah.

But I just feel like baseball is inherently easier to dramatize in a weird way because it is a slower sport. Precise it's so precise. It's a slower sport. Filmmaking is so precise. The the the, positions are very defined.

Like, it's it's it's hard. It's not like soccer or or even basketball where you can get lost in the mix of the positioning if you're not sure. Mhmm. You know, as, you know, like this tells you very clearly where they're standing. That's their position.

And, like, there's a line and a schedule, and I feel like that is easier as a just coming at it from a writer's perspective where I'm like, okay. I think I can, like, fit in drama in here in a really fun way. I agree. And kind of the the wage shot and and how precise it is where it's like, okay. This is gonna go we'll go inside baseball.

Like, this is gonna go 1 to 5 to 3 to or this is gonna result in a double play or this is gonna be the like, you have a rough idea if if you enjoy baseball, watch baseball, like baseball movies. You know? You have a rough idea Yeah. How it should break down and it's Yes. They do a good job of breaking down the preciseness of the game here, and it looks, I don't know, it looks the way it should look, the way I want it to look.

I don't know how to put that It's America's pastime. Yeah. I think I think baseball is an interesting it has an interesting scoring structure too. You know? Whereas, like, hockey, you make a goal.

Basketball, you can get 2 points or 3 points or one if it's a foul shot or whatever. But, I'm probably using the wrong terms and embarrassing myself. You're good. Great. Great.

But with baseball, you know, it could be bases loaded, and with one hit, it could be 4 points all of a sudden. You know? I think that's an interesting piece of it too. It's so exciting. Like, it's just like it's gonna pop.

I don't feel like there's a position in professional sports other than maybe the quarterback in NFL that has more pressure on it than a pitcher. Like those 2 in professional sports in terms of single positions on teams I feel like. Maybe goalies? I don't know. But I think pitchers Yeah.

I mean, part of the reason why I loved pitching is every time we were every time we were in the field, I was a part of every single play. Every single play. They did not start until the ball left me. Yeah. There's a really cool I I would, like, go into the zone in a way that I haven't found in anything else in my life, except maybe, like, being on stage sometimes.

But, yeah, there's just, like, this singular focus that other parts of my life sort of melt away, when I was pitching. My mom used to say that she felt really bad for the girl who was up to bat after someone got a hit on me because she knew she was dragging out. So And, yeah, and that moment is fun to dramatize. Like, seeing you, like, the tension of build up to the pitch and then, like, you get that pause that's already built into the game. Mhmm.

Keep that tension moving. I think that's why we have so many baseball movies. I have one last question. It's very I wanna press the button. I know.

I really want you to. Okay. Has everyone seen For Love of the Game with Kevin Costner at the Sam Raimi movie? I have. Oh my gosh.

Not recently, but yes. If you have any desire to see that movie, I like that as a baseball movie. It's a little slow. Whatever. It's got its issues.

But it's a fun, good baseball movie. I think Kevin Costner says he says, like, remove the something or whatever, and it makes the crowd, like, turn into a blur around him. And I wonder how accurate that is. Like, in terms of, like, yeah. Remove the device or whatever it is that he says.

Yeah. And it's like, I want because I've I I can't I can't imagine being on a stage like that. So it's one of those things where it's like, I've always been like, that must be what it's like. Like Right. Yeah.

It's you and the catcher in the batter. Awesome. That If we're all ready, I'm gonna start the movie. Watch it. Cut down movie.

Sack the movie. And now, our feature presentation. Life as a house. So this movie starts in a we get sort of a we begin and end with a bookend of the flash forward to the nineties. Mhmm.

Yeah. There is the basketball. Yes. Stylized. Yes.

It's it's nice. Let's not forget. Paul will not let us forget. No. But, like, yeah, you see, like, the photos and the stories, like, the memories.

Well, and the basketball moment in particular, I think that's a really interesting sort of foreshadowing of the sisters' relationship. You know? Yeah. Because she she said something very different to her older grandson than her younger grandson. I I will say if I do have a knock on something in this movie, So if the kid travels and double dribbles, you gotta like kids.

Come on. Because all your friend look here. Let him get away with that shit. Don't play that shit in my house. I don't love Okay.

I don't love the Geena Davis voice in the old woman's mouth. Mhmm. Yeah. I I wish they had just let that actress voice her own character. Yeah.

Yeah. I wonder what it would have been. Yeah. We all Agree with that. Picked that up.

She she's a dead ringer, though. Yeah. I mean, it's like, wow. And the physical performance is great. Bone structure.

Yeah. Yeah. She looks definitely. But yeah. The it it just, like, jarred me a little bit.

I was like, oh, that's too bad. Counting them all. No. I there are little things like that that I'm just like I don't know. For quite a while, I'm like, I don't they don't bug me as much as they would in some other things.

Totally. And it's not that it's poorly done, but I do go I kinda am like, but why? I I there's this old timers game Mhmm. That's happening. And I love that we get Harry Shearer of Simpsons fame's voice during these film strips and stuff like that.

We get a the film reel is the exposition. Right? Yeah. I love all the good stuff. Fun.

Exactly. That's a really fun way to to have exposition, especially because I think it picks the pace up so much more than it would otherwise because it's, like, images on images and voice and Well, a lot of this movie does that. Like, may I mean, Major League did it too is that the we're we're we're having to progress through an entire season, like, once we get into the game Mhmm. Or the the team. So it's like those are our montages with overlay of this newsreel, and it it really works to progress time and, you know Mhmm.

Give you those training montages, playing montages. And it's period specific too. Yeah. Which, like, you know, this movie does such a great job at creating a world without world building at me. Mhmm.

Like, I like the colors. I love the style. The costumes are fantastic. Proud members. And he was a voice.

Yeah. He was a voice. You got Harry Shearer. Just yeah. And It was from the waterfront.

Yeah. Okay. And the the those first, the Lukage dairy or what? I I'm probably saying that right now. They're like they're in Oregon.

Yep. In Willamette, Oregon. Mhmm. Yeah. Which clearly looked like somewhere in Iowa, but It did.

It absolutely did. It's so flat. I was like, that's not Oregon. It's so flat. That's the Willamette Valley.

It's not that flat. It's a valley. I mean There's there's hills all around Willamette. Yeah. I've been there a lot.

I I was maybe romanticizing a little. We know you've we know you've been there because you didn't pronounce it. I can't or Oregon. Well, that well I know. That was hard Oregon.

That was hard for me. So and Dottie hits this double. Like, they just make it very clear that, like, this is this is who are this is who you're following. And that was the thing for me where it's like, are we sure Tom Hanks gets toppling here? Because it happened, like, through the whole movie.

I'm like, I like you sometimes, but mostly I'm worried about this person and the movie is kind of telling me to worry about that person. And so I'm just like, it doesn't feel like his I mean, that for me at least and jumping ahead a little bit, but it feel that to me is what feels the most like 1992 about it, this movie, is that they needed a male anchor to be like an sort of a co lead in a way. And who better than at that time, like, one of the biggest stars in the world, Tom Hanks. Mhmm. And I think that that is that and also it being, like, a very white movie is sort of, like Yeah.

Where it feels very 1992. But Yeah. Jumping ahead. Absolutely. But but that was my thought too is that, like, I believe he got that billing based on his star power, and there was also something about like, Geena Davis wasn't originally playing Jodi.

There was another actress, and Geena Davis sort of stepped in barely last minute in that role. Like, the other women had already been training and doing baseball stuff, and she sort of scrambled to catch up and did an amazing phenomenal job. Yeah. I'm wondering if she had less star power and was not originally supposed to be playing that role, so she just didn't have the same consideration as as Tom Hanks did. Yeah.

Yeah. How how much did agents or whatever get involved? Speaking of agents, in comes John Levitz. Yeah. Nice.

John Levitz is out looking for female ball players to come join the new MLB Major League Baseball or, like, kind of funded privately AGPO? Yeah. But the men are obviously, a lot of the men are off in war, and they want to try to this experiment of starting 4 female baseball teams in Chicago. Right? Or the Yeah.

Bigger area? The greater That's at least where the tryouts are. Yeah. Right. But they all are, like, from, like, the I feel like it is Chicago.

Because at the end, the sister stays. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're all from, like, Like, they're all, like, really small places, I think, within Illinois or Yeah. Rockford.

Yeah. That first, and this probably breezed by me in my watching, but were they at Wrigley for the tryouts? I couldn't I I I don't know. Okay. I wasn't sure.

I was just like, did I see Ivy? Did I miss something? And I was like, did somebody catch it? I wasn't sure. But they Yeah.

I don't know. They're convincing. I like the convincing scene where John Lovitz goes to their Yeah. Their farm home. The dairy farm.

Yeah. Yeah. I love that dynamic. I love the Dottie really not caring and then not being interested, and then the desperation of her little sister and, like, how much she wants to play and how much it kills her that she has to convince her sister to come or they're not gonna take her at all. Like, that whole scene, I thought that was one of the moments where I was like, oh, this movie is much more layered than I remember it being.

Yeah. It's really nice. For me in this viewing, at least I was like, oh, this is a movie about sisters. And it's that's that's like strip everything else away. And that's what the movie's about.

And, I think that dynamic is really, really, really strongly supported by the baseball and by everything else. And so it's just like creating a theme and just like letting the theme Yeah. Go through every aspect of the movie. I think it works really well. Yeah.

I mean, as you said, like, if we you get position specific or whatnot, like the pitcher catcher Yeah. Dynamic ultimately and how a lot of that just, like, works, like, very directly. Mhmm. And as as we're going to the tryouts and John Lovitz has gotten his wish and whatever, and they've did they go to the gym practice and meet Marla yet? They did.

Right? Oh, they do they do that before? Yeah. Before the tryouts. Right.

Before the tryouts. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, man. Marla, it breaks my heart how everyone feel like, how they call her ugly.

Like like, it just like, when John Lovett sees her, I was like, thanks, but no thanks or whatever. It, like, and she's not ugly. It upset upsets me so much. I just get endeared. Well, is that I I endear to her.

Like, I don't under I'm like, ugh. Like, kinda like you are where I'm like, I don't under why is everyone treating me? Yeah. Well and I have I have two thoughts about that because I'd say that my biggest grip with this movie is the body shaming that is just part of all media at this time and definitely was still present in in this film. And the one thing I will say about, like, that Marla moment and stuff is that both of the girl both, Jotty and Kit are like, wait.

Are you serious? You're saying you're not gonna take her because you don't think she's pretty? Like, they also call it out, and Yeah. And the other people around acts like it's like, call it out for being ridiculous. So props to that, but there were still other moments that that sort of thing was happening.

That, again, I I, like, know was a product of its time, and it's even, like, a time within a time. You know? But, yeah, that's that was probably the hardest part for me as I was rewatching. Yeah. The the moment with the dad, it's, like, kind of sweet.

It is something that saying and everything is just, like sweet. It's like there I wish this was done another way. But, I mean, like, where he's just, like, like, her listening to all this and what he's saying and everything, like and I understand that we're what we're talking about, like, product of its time and takes place in the forties and all this shit. But, again, I guess it's a weird kind of win that I'm just like, okay. Your attempt at comedy here didn't super work out, but I endeared to this character more.

Like, so but it's like I don't I don't wanna champion that. It's also hard though because you also wanna be like the views of some of the the views of the characters aren't necessarily the views of the movie. And so, like Oh, yeah. Exactly. So so, like Exactly.

You know, like, again, they were calling out the fact that these women not only had to be exceptional ballplayers, they had to be desirable. You know, they they had to be this image of what a woman was at that time going to, you know, charm school along with practice. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Ridiculous. Well and, like, you're gonna send Madonna and Rosie to charm school? I mean oh, yeah. So when we get to the practice and meet everyone Yeah. We meet Rosie, who plays Doris and May, Madonna.

And I love, like, we don't need much to know who they are. Right. It's just such a great, like, flash in the pan and we're like, oh, we know who these characters are. It's great. Yeah.

And I love Rosie's turn where she's like, okay. Maybe some other maybe some other girls are going home. You know? Like Yeah. The ball throw and the catch is so strong.

Yeah. The moment too of as they're getting toward the end and teams teams are kind of being chosen and they're going over the kind of the parameters and shit, and we meet more characters. And that's the thing. Baseball movies are gonna have a lot of characters normally, but we get David Strathairn, who I'm a huge fan of as an actor, as well as so many actors in this movie. It's like I feel like I could just as I said, I went crazy on the cast.

But when the I'm forgetting her name, but when the one team member clearly is, like, having trouble reading, Oh, yeah. And the one girl, I, like, started to tear up. I was like, holy shit. I forgot about that moment entirely. Me too.

That was really good. Yeah. Me too. Well acted. Well written.

Yeah. And a thing that could have been a jokey, discriminatory moment, and instead, it was like a, let me help you out. Let's let's figure it out. Well, and, like, when she was looking at it, I didn't my first instinct wasn't, oh, she can't read. My instinct was, like, the coach.

Like, oh, you're not on the list? I'm sorry. Exactly. Exactly. The reveal of, like, some misdirect.

Yeah. And It's executed. So yeah. Perfect word. It's executed so well because that misdirection is just Oh.

And it sets up, which already kinda was set up too with Marla, where these are women who are gonna look out for each other. Yeah. Like, they're they're going to continue to support and look out for one another in the moments where the coaches or the men or whatever are being, you know, being men. But then, right, we find the teams. They, like, give us the teams of who's on which ones.

And, of course, the sisters are together because they gotta be. Yep. Gotta be. And then this is where you get Tom Hanks. Like, we've been through an entire act of this movie and he kinda shows up.

And I almost forgot for a minute that he was gonna show up. 30 minutes in. 30 minutes in. Yeah. We get it.

I mean, that tells you how well Yep. Structured and written. I love that too. Yeah. And he's a drunk, and he is injured.

His knees are bad. Yep. But he's endeared himself to the guy who's, like, financing this whole thing. Yeah. Gary Marshall.

Yeah. The candy. Candy guy. Was he involved with the Major League Baseball? I know that Tom Hanks' character was, but was Okay.

Was the owner of the was the owner of the team Yeah. Because he had gotten him his previous job. Yeah. So he was in some way that Jimmy had, like, messed up somehow and Yeah. Because they have that whole conversation where he's like, you embarrassed me.

I had to go clean it up. You know? But he's giving him this job as a manager. Right. Because they need their Somebody to put butts in seats as they see it.

Well and it's unclear as to they think that this is a money making venture if they think, like, people need to see I think it starts in that selfish, greedy Yeah. Way. Right? Where it's like it's gonna start as being a way to, like, keep people entertained and get some money. I don't know if you know about this really horrible thing that I wanna bring up really briefly, but there's such a thing as lingerie football.

I've heard of this. Oh, I've heard of this. What? There's a thing I don't know what this is. I don't know if it still existed.

Great. Neither of us will know the rules, and no one will be embarrassed. But you can but you can Yeah. But you can assume what it is from what what the name is. And, like, that's what I think that this is kind of in a similar way, but forties is what they're thinking this could be is getting getting men in seats to loggle ladies in short skirts, play a sport that they I mean, clearly.

Yeah. Clearly. You know? Like I really went with the whole, like, that in the beginning, and then it became, like, this very, like, successful because it was good and because it was, like, patriotic. And I'm sure that's what it is, But I think I got swept up in that, which I think the movie wants.

But I definitely, like, you just dropped a bomb on me where I was like, oh, no. That is exactly I mean, I think that's how it starts. Right? You know? So I think they were like Absolutely.

We're we're not gonna have baseball unless we get the women to play because the men aren't here. There's a broad still want the men who are still here, who are clearly injured or too old is the only reason they're not in you know, fighting in the war, to still have this escape and this entertainment. And then there's the sexism piece of that. And then, yeah, I think it becomes like, holy crap. These women can really play and becomes, you know, the for love of the game, the the joy of watching the sportsmanship.

That's sort of the journey that the country goes on. Right? Mhmm. Well and when we start, like, when the games start, right, we we we meet Tom Hanks. He's a drunk, and he pees for a super long time.

Yeah. He he doesn't give a fuck. He's just gonna scratch his balls the whole time or whatever. He yeah. He is checked all the way the fuck out.

And that first game, there's like nobody in the stands. Mhmm. That one asshole dude that's standing on top of the dugout. Who Donnie just nails. Yeah.

But Donnie accidentally yeah. And we and we get the new problem, which is now we have we have teams assembled, but who the fuck's gonna watch this? And how are we gonna make them care? And I think, like, that is now the new thing to solve. And these women are, like, we're just gonna fucking win.

We're just gonna play really well. We're gonna like, we are going to produce a good product. Yeah. Period. This is gonna be really good.

That's what we're gonna do. Again, there's, like, 2 prongs to that because there's the business side where people are, like, this woman can serve coffee. You know? Like, there's that that, like, sticky part, and then there's the the women taking control for themselves and being like, we are really good ballplayers, and we're not only going to play a really good game. We're gonna do all these incredible tricks that, like Mhmm.

You know, make it even more amazing. Yeah. Those little interstitial film reel moments had me rolling. She also is a knitter. I was dying.

Right. Exactly. And even though it, like, it's still, like, upsetting when they showed Marla and the camera was, like, so far away. I was like, oh, no. Yeah.

Dude, when when they're She's, like, the first one to find gloves. So Yeah. Yeah. Which was nice. It's almost like a Jerry, Gary Yeah.

Larry, Terry, Gergich situation. Jerry Gergich. Yeah. That was the sweetest. Yeah.

They're like, this is the sweetest person. What is happening? Right. I just ended up endeared. Exactly.

And Jerry ended up as the mayor. Gary was not the patient, it was Marla. Yeah. Also like Dottie Dottie hitting that homer being the awakening kind of for Hanks in a moment of his like drunken stupor or whatever where his opinion is, like, they're not ballplayers. And it becomes, like, oh, not only do they play professional baseball and do things that professional baseball players can't do, like, when we go through the interstitials, they're really good at all these things.

And even this drunk kinda wakes up, but then gets taken over by his more base instincts and is just like pay me, pay me, pay me, fuck you, pay me. I Oh, because I I feel like he gets pulled in by the game. You know? Like, he gets gets pulled in, but, like because he, you know, again, he has that speech at the end about what he wouldn't give for in one more day, which I really relate to. And I feel like that's I feel like that oh, shoot.

They're really plain. You know? Like, he thought it was all a joke, and he's like, woah. This is something I can get on board with. I I thought it was a really cool way to to get him in.

Like, he can't help himself. Yeah. He loves baseball Yeah. So much. And he and as the league goes, Tom Hanks goes, just like America goes.

Yeah. Everyone starts getting on board. People start feeling this. And I like the moment where Gina Davis is giving the is giving the signals and she tells she tells I think it was Marla. She tells Marla to bunt, like squeeze.

Yeah. And he's like, no. What are you doing? Don't do that. And he's like, tell her to swing away.

Yeah. Let her swing away. The comedic beat of Marla watching and like stepping back. That's so good. And then they do the little like signal off and I love that that's the moment where he takes he takes back.

He's, like, wait. No. I think I know I know what I'm doing here. And, starts to give a fuck. This is that moment where I realize not exactly what you said about Marla popping in and out of the batter's box.

Yeah. I'm like, oh, not only did this movie, like, make me laugh or I enjoyed it because of the comedy in general and the physical comedy, but the physical baseball. Again, like it's hitting all these notes, like really well. And even like they drop a film strip here in the narrative, like right about right here and do kind of more exposition and we get into road trips. Yeah.

Exactly. We we have the montage on the bus and stuff. The little kid. Oh, your friend. What's your character's name?

Oh, yes. The kid just running back and forth on the bus. Thank God. And like the women are basically They're basically stuck in like a boarding house basically. Yeah.

And they can't see any men. They're not Yeah. With a chaperone. Yeah. Which is pretty serious especially when you consider what like professional male athletes are doing.

Oh. Obviously, they're not gonna do that. They're gonna go they're gonna go out to bars. They're gonna they're gonna party. May is gonna hook up with all of the guys.

And Marla's gonna sing. Marla's gonna serenade. Yeah. Her love. Oh, that was amazing.

So good. That's one of my favorite scenes of the movie. You don't I forgot again, forgot that completely where it cuts and I'm just like holy shit. They're doing this. I love this.

And, yeah, it's a road trip and now we get the montage. Right? Is this when we start to get, like, now they wanna win it all? Yeah. This is when Higgs, like, really, like, starts to check he's, like, checked in and get there's, like, the no crying in baseball argument where he's, like, he's, like, into this now and Mhmm.

Actually wants to, do his fucking job. I guess, is the best way to put it. Yeah. And he's even calling back to, like, how he was coached and, you know, stuff like that. Like, he's starting to relate to them more as as ballplayers.

But I think he's also because he's also realizing what he does eventually, and, like, the amp calls him out on him, like, treat your players better or whatever. Yeah. Which Like you would your mother. Yeah. That's a great line.

Yeah. Treat your players like you would your mother. And then he what does he call him? He says, like So treat her right. You look like a penis with a hat on or something?

A penis with a hat on. A little hat. Yeah. I don't know what you're out of here. Oh, man.

But then he's like, you misunderstood me. You misunderstood me. Oh my gosh. But the, the idea and I I've been talking about this with somebody lately, but the idea that he like, he isn't a good leader. No.

He he's he's learning how to, like he's getting bad getting to the game and he's a boss, like, in terms of, like, being having control. Yeah. In the hierarchy. But he doesn't he doesn't have the patience or Stuff. Yeah.

He isn't well, he he does have the right stuff. Yeah. I mean, he hit home runs, but was he like a 4 to 5? How many pitches did he have? I don't know.

It's hard to say. But he's going that's sort of his thing is having to grip grapple with that. It's like being a leader. I also take that as a moment where he doesn't understand the opportunities that these women have or have not. You know?

Like, he is still framing this in terms of his own experience coming up in baseball, but they haven't had that coaching. You know? They've been playing in court fields, and, you know, that is something he doesn't realize until later in the film. And also that it takes him a while to just realize he's just working with athletes. Treat them as athletes, but also then treat them as individuals.

Like, this, like, no crying in baseball rule doesn't always apply. Sometimes you just gotta pull it back. Mhmm. Like, if you wanna get the best out of people again, just do your job Mhmm. Which does do they ever know if he stops drinking, drinking less?

Like, I mean, he's less pale or whatever at points, but, like Yeah. I mean, Johnny can send him a coke on the bus. But then he hits a flask at a point. Again, this is where I'm, like, oh, there are a lot of characters in this movie, characters that I care about that go away for periods of time or entirely or storylines, like, aren't realized. And that's where I sit like, we're sitting here with a lot of reverence, and I'm just like, I gotta explain my form, and that's what part of it is.

Is I'm like, man, there's some things that I was like, I would have liked this is an over 2 hour movie. I just would have liked a couple more threads tied off. Sure. This is that little, like, marketing piece that they're like, Dottie, we're you're the queen of diamonds. That's what we're call because they they're the diamond gals?

They refer to them in the marketing, is that? Or I don't remember the name of their team. It's the Rockford Peaches. They're the Peaches. Yeah.

But there's, like, a marketing campaign that refers to them as the diamond gals or some stuff. The baseball diamond. So that's just, like, what they're calling him, like the like the legion of boom kind of? Exactly. It's like that sort of a deal.

Here's again where we get that payoff, Marla gets married. Marla gets married. Mhmm. And I and I and I like that also through this, there seems to be this budding friendship slash maybe potential relationship that's coming between Gina and Tom Hanks. Yeah.

As yeah. But there's, like, a mutual respect that they have for each other. Like, they're both leaders. They both have a good understanding of the game, and that gets cut off when Bill Pullman returns. But that's a little later.

Well and I have a I have a fun fact about that. Oh, yeah. Please. Which is that, originally, the Johnny character does, like, have a affair with Jimmy. Oh, woah.

And they cut that because they were worried that that would make her character unlikable. They have such an undeniable chemistry. Was already built into the story. Yeah. For sure.

I like it so much more the way that I do too. They did it, which is, like, mutual respect that is, like, a romance. Yeah. It doesn't go to the romantic, but I said to Jess towards the end, I was like, do you think if Bob had died at war, do you think that maybe something would have come about between them? Mhmm.

And she was like, I don't know. Maybe. Like, they might, but they definitely have, like, a strong bond of some kind. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's interesting, but I do like how it is too. I wanna come back to that because I agree with the 2 of you that it's like, I don't think I need that romance piece. I I the way it flows is really nice. Yeah. And now we're to the point where, like, Hanks is fully checked in and this whole thing and games are, like, selling out.

Everybody's clicking. Everybody's gelled. We're moving and grooving. Yeah. And everybody has their like thing like May, you know, and everybody comes out.

They have, you know, it's just like baseball. It's like but for me when I think of baseball, I think of the 1995 Mariners. No. And I think of like you had your, you know, you had your you had your Alex Rodriguez. You had your Oh, okay.

You had your Ken Griffey Junior. You had your Edgar Martinez. You had your Jake Hey, Rod first. Like, don't because that you're talking about the lineup, buddy. Let's talk about the lineup.

Lead off. Yeah. But still just say, now I'm gonna bleep it anyway. What? The first one you said.

I'm going through the lineup. Bitter. Bitter. You know what I mean? Like, everybody everybody fits into a character archetype of of the of the of the team and that's where we're at now.

Like, everybody has their their role. Yeah. Well, and, like, is Lori Petty, like, still, like, the the cog that refuses to fit? Like, she's, like, fighting with Rosie O'Donnell or whatever. Mhmm.

Mhmm. He's up in a cold shower. And with Dottie and I as an older as an overachieving older sister, I really get that tension between between them. And also have to be on Dottie's side when Kit doesn't have her arm anymore, and she's like, I can keep throwing because you can't. Like, you can't.

Get out. Yeah. And Dottie does what's best for the team, you know, in that moment. You can see why having that familial relationship makes that much more complicated and feel much more personal for kids. She's throwing grapefruits out there.

And I I I love too thinking about why you're like, your question of, like, the the catcher, it makes sense too if this story is about those 2 sisters. The catcher tells the pitcher what to throw, and this is a big sister telling her little sister what to do. And I think, like, that that The pitcher can shake it off. But, but yeah. But, like, catcher still getting used but, like, the the idea of yeah.

And so I feel like the point where Kit gets traded. The pitcher catcher relationship too and the business part of this where it's like this is what happens when a when a star is unhappy with somebody, that person goes away. Yeah. This is a business. This is how this works.

Your familial stuff or whatever be damned. And also, Kit is constantly throwing things at Dottie to me. You need to go play professional baseball. You need to, like, not question me when I swing at this. You need to not do, like, as Gina Davis is just like, okay.

I'm gonna keep receiving this. I'm gonna tell you how to do this, and you will or you won't. But, like, in the long run, if you listen to me, we'll we'll get where everybody wants to be. And I don't endear to Kit, really. Like, when she's traded, I'm like, okay.

Fine. Mhmm. I I enjoy I like Kit. I don't dislike her, but I don't love them together all the time. And I think that's something that I love about the movie is that they realize they are really strong and talented and independent and don't need to be together.

Yeah. All the time. Yes. It's they're better apart. They truly are, which is so great why we get there.

Think it's it's nice that we stay with Dottie, and we see her we see that conversation where she's like, fine. Trade me or whatever, but figure it out. You know? And then it's explosion, and we can believe Dottie when she says, I told them to trade me. You know?

Yeah. Of course, Kit's like, they weren't gonna trade you. You're the queen. You know? Yes.

And, like, they're both, yeah, they're both, you know, valid in their emotions. Everyone's emotions are valid, but I do think they sort of portray Kit as a stereotypical younger sister. You know, like, she just seems so much younger in her behavior, in her reactions. Yeah. She seems like, oh, my bratty kid sister.

There's a level of that kind of thing to it to me. Totally. And it's like having not had one, like, it's it's still it's like, oh, I see what you're doing here. But also she had to get out of I I don't Dottie Shabbat. Get that sense from Dottie.

Like, I don't get the sense that Dottie thinks she's the bratty kids. But I do get the sense that, like, that is the character type they were setting up for sure. Yes. Dottie also leaves the team here. Yeah.

For a good while. Yeah. Then this is an interesting part where we lose this perspective of Dottie and go to Hanks takes the wheel for for a little bit. Yeah. And she's Gina Davis is off with Bill Pullman?

Who's like, Bill Pullman? Okay. First, we have to talk about the telegram scene because Yes. I like, that is probably one of my earliest memories of, like, understanding loss. Like, understanding that there is this moment where your whole life changed.

You know? Like, I just remember feeling that, watching that scene, and that hasn't gone away even though I know Yeah. It doesn't go to Dottie. You know? It's still, like, all of the women frozen waiting to see who's gonna get this telegram that they know what's in it.

You know? Tom Hanks taking it and not letting them hang in this agony of, like, unknowing. You know? Yeah. And then and I I didn't remember that it was right after that that that pop comes home.

You know? Like, they don't let us languish in that sadness and despair. Right. But I just that that scene was so impactful to me as a kid, and I still felt that way really watching it. Jess said the same thing.

She was like, I think I remember this scene more than anything else in the movie. Yeah. That's great. I'm so glad, Sarah, that you didn't let us, like, hop over that because that was another thing I wanted to talk about was the level of chemistry they have and everything. And there's this, it's so good in his performance.

I feel that he reads it, and there's this level of relief that it's not Bob for not, like, a breath of a moment that happens and then, like, the dread of, like, the reality of what he's about to do and and doing it. Like, I that scene is really good. Again, this is where my tears, like Mhmm. They did the On the Like, one there was one from each eye. The casual nature happen the casual nature of the postman who's like, oh, jeez.

I I really military. Someone else would do this. Oh, I don't have the name. I don't have the name on my list. Yeah.

Yeah. Get out of here. But, they're in the we're in the we're in the world series, and we blow through that world series. It's Yeah. At one point it's 3 zip, the other team.

Like, we there's 7 games Or there's no Dottie. No. I know. But, like, I was like, oh, fuck. They're down 30.

Doesn't it go 211 1? No. No? It goes it goes some it goes it goes to 30 and then it goes then they crawl their way back to tie the tie it. Oh, did they did the reverse sweep?

They tie the series at 30. No. Oh, got it. Okay. Nope.

Because nope. The Racine Bells win that final game. Yeah. Whoops. But Although I will say when I got to the playoffs and it was like oh look at my finalist and blah blah blah.

Like there are 4 teams. I know. I know. Didn't everyone make the playoffs? Yeah.

It was The playoffs? Those night shift. Like, how many times are they playing each other in, like Yeah. That's like me and my flag football team that had, like, 5 teams, and we're, like, playing the same team twice every Tuesday evening. Yeah.

It must have been, you know. And are they all 7 game series? Because that's a that's long I mean, yeah. It could be many many games in the end. It's all said and done.

It could be you play each team and then whoever has the best record between those 4 teams moves on. Yeah. I think so. I guess. The 2 best records?

I don't know. Even though they could all potentially Anyway, I had questions about how they were measuring. Somebody else has to build these playoffs, but they get through the last game and Dottie or and Kit is pitching against them, which I think is a great dramatic element. Do you think she's pitching with the ball that Tom Hanks signed? Avoid the clap for a kid and said, hey.

That's good advice because that killed me. I died at that. Where it's like, why are you defending me? What are you doing? Also, when Tom Mix when Tom Hanks was trying to convince Dottie not to leave, he had a really good speech there too.

He did. Like, Tom Hanks did have good lines. Oh, yeah. And He's very good. Character is very well written, and he is a very talented actor.

And so it's like amazing. Yeah. But that was that was his, like, there's no you know, if there's anything I wouldn't give have even one day back and, you know, she's like, oh, it got too hard. And he was like, the heart is what makes it great. You know?

Yeah. That was just such a good thing. And they lose. The peaches lose it. Clearly clearly sunk in in a to a certain extent that she comes back.

K. Yeah. The prayers are answered, and Dottie shows up. Well, yeah. And then Dottie gets mowed down by Kit in the final run home to the plate Yep.

And drops the ball. Last second ball drop. Watching it, I'm like, she's out. She's not she had the ball when she hit her. It doesn't matter if afterwards.

Anyway, it's safe. But it's safe. I guess it depends on how quick it happens. Because if she drops the ball because she was hit, then I think she is safe. Like, if if you hit the person and they and the ball, like, falls out of them, I think that they're safe.

But I don't think that's right. But, like, she hits her as she's holding the ball, and she slowly falls. And after she hits the ground, the ball comes out of her. Anyway The ground caused the drop. Right?

I thought she was out too. Like, it's like I was about to ask the same thing, Sarah. I was like, she but she's out. Isn't she? We should Yeah.

Call and ask my brother. It's like, no. I think Sarah knows. I think you're right. I think you're right.

I'm gonna give this one to Sarah. I'm just curious in, like, Major League Baseball. That yeah. I don't know the specific majors rules. Yeah.

I don't know what the rules are. And then we go back into the nineties, into the future. Kit literally runs through the obstacle of her sister and, like, you know, there there's this growth in Part way. Yeah. And Kit's the big hero.

Want to stay together. You know? She's like, well, just when I want you to stay, you're leaving. You know? Yeah.

Yeah. It could've been that way the whole time, Kit. It was you. Like, it's you. Hi.

You're the problem. It's you. Truly. It really is. But she goes back to Oregon.

Right? Dottie goes back to Oregon with Yeah. With Bob? Beautiful Willamette, Oregon. Nowhere else Yeah.

That's where they go. Willamette, Oregon. Not Iowa. It's Oregon. I promise.

Is this heaven? No. It's just Oregon. Okay. Yeah.

And they're getting a celebration at the baseball hall of fame, which I really like. I've this is where it's like, this also is long. I like it. It's emotional. I don't know how you cut this shorter, but it feels like some shots hang or something.

Yeah. That's where I I think they're trying to wrap up. You know? Instead of the, like, the ends where they, like, have this character married a plastic surgeon and lives in 89. You know?

Like, instead of that, they have all of these micro character interactions in this Yeah. Prolonged scene. Yeah. Full of nostalgia. Like, the part that I felt like I didn't need as much were the photos of the team and the things that we, like, had already seen.

Yeah. I, like, I found the older characters more interesting than Same. Revisiting moments that we just watched. Because we literally just watched them, and we're not as nostalgic about them. We we saw a lot of that stuff, which is cool.

I I like the conceit that, you know, they're even though it took till apparently 1992 Yeah. For them to get any sort of, like, celebration. And I'm curious if that's historical. I I had read something about that, and I'm going to misrepresent it. But I I don't think they were inducted into the baseball hall of fame, but I do think they got some sort of permanent, like, display somewhere.

Yeah. Okay. I do think that is factual. Yeah. Yeah.

Well But and in some ways, it's like it took till then for them to be acknowledged as real baseball players. Right? Like, it took 50 years. Yeah. Before we we're at the point now where we can wrap up this movie and see if we our rankings have changed, but would anybody did we miss any beats, anything, any moments, any lines that they must say?

I could go on and on. As you know. There were a lot of good lines in this movie, like, more than I remembered, which was really fun. It's super quote of you. Rosie has so much good machine gunny shit, like, throughout the movie.

I feel like I we So that's the one thing I wanna make sure I know is the 2 of them have such good banter with each other and others. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're really great. Well, Sarah, you can either bat lead off or clean up.

How would you like this to go in terms of sharing new rankings? I'll I'll lead you off. Okay. I'm a left handed potter, so I frequently chat earlier in the Sure. I I think it's a 4.5 for me.

Nice. I I really again, I I feel like there were so many moments that genuinely surprised me. And, I was worried about the deep nostalgia that I felt and, on myself, enjoying it even more than I expected. So That's great. 5 tiers.

Who do you wanna bat next? Who do you want to be up to bat next? I was gonna say, like, if we're going by the qualifier of where people should bat, like, I should be, like it should be, like, can you you're, like, the 14th, 15th batter. Like, we had to pinch hit several Papa. Paul plays left field.

I'll swing at anything. He bats he bats You're batting 9th. Or 9th. 9th. 9th.

Yeah. The 2nd batter often bunts. So I'll take that. Yeah. Let me bunts.

I'm not afraid of of He's not a bun. He's not afraid of cakes. I'll Roger Dorn it. I'll bunt it. You love a bundt cake.

Oh, god. Yeah. I do. I do love a bundt cake. There's a part of me that kinda wants a liberty rule, but we don't get liberty rule.

No. As Cohos. Man, I do have a lot of reference for this movie too. I just it's beautiful looking. I love the music.

Something else, I guess, we didn't really talk about. I really wanna watch the TV show now. I do. Because this scratches the surface of some stuff that I can can dig. Absolutely.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's one moment that we didn't talk about was the moment where, the black women, like, the woman likes to throw the ball. And that's, like, the only mention of race. But it to me, it was a very clear, like, yeah.

There are other people who are really good ballplayers who are not being allowed to participate in this. Mhmm. And that is definitely explored more in the new the new like, I think 2022, 2021, something like that Very recent. Serious from you. I might start that.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking for something new to pick up. So I still need to watch Ripley, though. So Gotta watch it.

Very high on my list. I find myself I find myself feeling, like, more, empowered and happy to be, like, downer song be damned. This is at least a 4 for me, where it's in that very upper echelon, upper crust of and especially, like, there's a rewatchability factor that I think hit me that I didn't know was there. Yeah. That Great.

And especially as we're talking about it. And also, like, shouts to, folks who wear the league of their own uniforms for, like, Halloween and cons and shit like that because those things are fucking awesome. Not awesome to play baseball in, but awesome in general. Yeah. So I'm gonna still walk away with a 4.

I would maybe go to a 4.25 if I had liberty. Yeah. But I don't. So, I'm gonna stick at a 4. I too, I'm gonna be at 4 grapefruits because this is a solid rewatchable movie.

If I hadn't rented it on Amazon, I probably would have just, like, bought the Blu ray. If I could and I might throw that on my birthday wish list. I think I think I might have a DVD of it. I didn't even think about that. Oh, I'm I am actually a 100% sure that I have a DVD and I didn't even I watched it on the streamer.

Yeah. I Sometimes I do that sometimes because I'm like, oh, I can just stream it for free or I can walk over there and get the Blu ray and put it in my PlayStation. Oh, wow. That's a level I don't. I can't.

There are features there might be on the Right. On the DVDs. Oh, yeah. I almost watched this on Tubi, but it had commercials. So I paid for the rental from Bezos.

Yeah. And I should have gotten the Blu ray from Bezos because again it was like dang that rewatchability factor like got me. Sarah, thank you so much for joining us and bringing this movie back to us. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.

This was so great. I, it was great to rewatch, to talk about, and to also relive my my glory days. Yeah. Is there anything else you would like to mention anywhere anyone could follow you before we sign off? Yes.

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Yeah. I can feel let down, but I'm not there to experience it. You're way better off, but I appreciate the sentiment.