ET: The Extra Terrestrial / Presented by Hans Moleman (Guest: Adria LaMorticella)

Ben's Big Box Office Bonanza Summer STARTS at full tilt with Guest: Adria LaMorticella and "E.T. The Extra Terrestrial" aka "Extra Terrestrial, the Extra Terrestrial," (1982 Dir. Steven Spielberg)  Starring: Henry Thomas, Dee Wallace, and Drew Barrymore. We follow the trail of delicious clues through deep trivia, big numbers, and the expanded lore of this...STAR WARS UNIVERSE MOVIE?! Let us take you on a journey during which we question the need for specific actors and stunt people, how the M & M's people could be so short sighted (they really got the legs taken out from under them), and if Huey Lewis' "The Power of Love," was actually more appropriate for this movie? WE'LL BE RIGHT HEREEEEEE

Plot: A troubled child summons the courage to help a friendly alien escape from Earth, and return to his home planet

1hr 53mins

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**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

You can pause it so you're not recording this whole time until Adria gets here. I'm gonna say, pause the record. Resume. Hello everybody and welcome to the review review. This is a movie podcast.

I am one of the co hosts of this podcast and my name is Ben. I happen to be another co host of this same exact podcast. My name is Paul. And today we have a awesome guest. We have, actor Adriela Morticella.

Hi. Thanks for having me, guys. Of course. Pleasure. Pleasure.

If everyone is hearing something a little weird, it's because all 3 of us, the trifecta, are all on Zoom today. Big Zoom room. Doing a little COVID throwback. What would they be hearing that was weird? I mean, it would feel a little Oh, that is weird.

Wait. Buzz buzz. Can you still hear a buzz? I thought I turned my AC off. Oh my gosh.

Am I picking up a buzz? Acting. It was acting. It was fake. It was fake.

Oh, it was fake. Oh my gosh. You're on a Zoom call, and you didn't even know oh my goodness. Wow. It's pretty good.

Wow. That was good. But it's a movie podcast. A movie podcast. Yes.

Not a truther podcast as we had previously discussed. But in on this podcast, we like to have a guest, and we ask that guest to bring us a movie. That movie should be at least 7 years old, not the middle or end of a major franchise, and something maybe they wanna look at again, revisit. Maybe they've only seen it once or maybe they loved it as a kid, and they're like, is this still as, as great as I thought it once was? Or maybe they hated it.

And then they rewatch it, and we all come together. We watch it. We discuss, and we see, see if our opinions have altered the end of that conversation. Was that pretty good, Paul? That was solid.

That was real solid. You left a bunch of little pieces. You left a nice little trail to follow there, and I was able to have the delicious crunch of the nuggets of information. It's like a satisfying peanut butter candy. I loved it.

For sure. We should yeah. Paul's very good at foreshadowing. Gotta be some At some point, we should talk about what is the superior peanut butter treat. But because we haven't mentioned it, the movie that Adria brought us is ET the extraterrestrial.

Mhmm. Woah. Another Big and big and Spielberg. Because this is Ben's big blockbuster bonanza summer. Goddamn right it is.

Oh, wow. It's yours? It's your big blockbuster summer? I I wanted to do big blockbusters this summer, so I brought it to Paul. And because we're all about alliteration, it just made sense to call it Ben's big blockbuster.

This counts. Right? This is a big blockbuster. A real big Oh. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Bigger. One of the biggest. Right. I do wanna pitch 2 different titles for this movie really quickly if I could.

Yeah. Okay. Kiki, the extra terrestrial. Ters a lot. You know what I'm saying?

Last one, extraterrestrial. The extraterrestrial, which I think is technically just what it is. Because he's an extra one? Well, just because it says e t, the extraterrestrial. I'm like, well, isn't that just extraterrestrial?

The extraterrestrial. Right. Right. Right. But, Adria.

Uh-huh. What you've been up to? Oh, what have I been up to? Great question. Very little.

I was baking at a bakery. That was my job. And then I quit there to do a show at the Seattle Children's Theater, which was great, and did a I was an understudy after that. And, that ended, and so now I'm doing nothing. I'm unemployed.

So Fun and unemployed? I mean, it's sometimes it's fun. You know, when you're unemployed, you have no income. So that's the part where you're like, there's all the stuff I could do, but I don't have any money to do it. I was I did a I shot a commercial the other day.

Nice. Something. Mhmm. Mhmm. Mhmm.

For, get this, for Lumen as in the field that the seed has planned. But even after the commercial, I don't I don't know what they do. I don't know what that company is. So maybe if I see it ever, I'll find out. They illuminate.

Are they I was gonna say are they energy company? Luminators. I wanna say I I'm I'm putting words together. I I wanna say biotech, something tech. I don't think it's I don't know, guys.

In a venture. Probably a quick Google search could've If you asked in the moment or like, hey. What come what do you guys do? They just look at you like, don't ask that. Yeah.

They're like They probably don't know either. It's just like people filming the commercial. They don't know. You know? I know.

They just lost. That was not our business. We asked. I miss your, your baked the the baked baker. Mhmm.

Mhmm. That was a YouTube show that I had where I made edibles. I baked edibles, but I also I ate them beforehand, and then I made the video. And then Wait. Like a pot like a pot like a pot drug?

Like a pot drug edible? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I don't know if I can work with this guest. Uh-huh.

I don't know if I can use it. I haven't used it right now. I haven't had one of my edibles. Yeah. I haven't one of us.

You know what? Okay. Paul's probably I'm a lost sheets to the wind. Is that still a statement you can use with lead 3 sheets to the wind? I think so.

Because I don't inebriated. Comes from yeah? Okay. Yeah. You're in the sky.

You you can feel the wind. I'm curious where that comes from. I don't know. Yeah. I guess I don't know what it mean.

I mean, I know what it means, but I guess I don't know what the etymology of it is. Listeners Yeah. Exactly. Help us out. Like, with someone so drunk.

Yeah. We could use our Google machines. Tell us, won't you? Ben, what are you up to? I I was gonna ask you.

I don't care. I don't and you think that because we host this podcast and we know what sections we have, we have responses already. But I hadn't thought about that in this moment. So I will say something now. Here it comes.

I am still prepping for that was all stalling. I'm still prepping for my, for my film shoot, which is coming up in August. We are in the midst of a fundraiser. The movie is called Roughways. You can follow it on Instagram, rough roughwaysfilm.

It's also a a tongue twister, and it makes you sound like Ralph the dog if you say it wrong. Oh. Wait. We lost your mic, I think, Adria. Did we?

Oh, I was talking quietly because you were talking. Okay. So does Wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff. She's just wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff wuff. She's just wuff wuff wuff wuff, which you're not used to.

Oh. Yeah. We, been live for a week. We, for a fundraiser, and we already hit 40% of our goal. So, anyway, Roughways.

We're on Seed and Spark. That's what I've been up to, Paul. What about you? Boy, as, you all know listener from all the weird sounds, I'm on a Zoom because I am in Washington state, getting some work done, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So I have to look at Ben's, beautiful face through a screen instead of across from me.

Look at this guy. Look at this guy. So happy to be here. So glad everybody was able to make the time. This is one of those times for me where it was, like, so much to juggle.

But when somebody comes with e t, you make time. Great. It's true. Make time. Why do you think that?

Why do I think that? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Why do you think that? But what if I'm here to roast it?

When Ben asked what movie I wanted, I sent him, like, 15 Yeah. Of my inability to make decisions. And then we slowly, 1 by 1, he's like, maybe one of these 6. And then I slowly was like, a little bumpy. You know, it's a a real back and forth.

So Yeah. Glad you went. Glad no one's mad at me. No. You know what?

Even when people bring bad movies, we're stoked to talk about it. Mhmm. But this is not one of those times, I think, I can speak for all of us. But before we video view and weird. But before we talk about ET, which we all watched, we're gonna talk about what are we watching.

And Adria, I think you being the guest, Paul is grooving now drinking his Gatorade that he got from the gas station for 4.99. I hope it wasn't that much. No. I used club card 4.49. Asia, what have you been watching?

I just watched you know what I just watched, actually, you guys? Tell me. Tell me. Late to the game. I'm a little late to the game on this, but I just watched Dopesick.

Did you guys see that? I did. Okay. So I have some big opinions about that show. Well, first of all, I think we all can say well, I'm also gonna speak for all of those ones.

I bet we know that Michael Keaton can do no wrong. Everything he does is fabulous. He was fabulous. Fabulous. Yeah.

And the girl, that played the young girl, she's also so good. What is her name? Kathry Kath Catherine Deaver? Yes. That sounds right.

Yes. Yeah. She's in Booksmart and stuff. She also I feel like I've never seen her in anything I didn't like. She's always so good.

I felt like there was 2 different shows going on. There was, like, really good actors, and then there were people who were, like, in a play. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's so melodramatic. There are so melodramatic.

People do it like that. Yes. It was I also really liked it, but I also was, like like, the guy who plays, like, the main bad guy as a word. What's his name? Like, based on the real person for the pharmaceutical company.

Right. Oh. He just, like yeah. He the first scene of him, he's, like, talking like this. He's, like, what are you doing?

Like, no one else is, like, putting on a character like that. I thought it was so good. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Notcha. You know, like, has a weird way of moving and stuff and all that. What show? What is it?

What player are you in right now? Sir, could you please just be the crypt keeper? We just really need the crypt keeper to be the head of this drug company. Exactly. Yeah.

Exactly. What a odd choice, Daveed. And I felt like there's a couple other performances like that. And then also and then also some of the worst wigs I've ever seen in a TV show. Ben is excited.

I'm a big I'm a big, big wig. I'm a big I'm a big I'm a big wig supporter, and I don't I don't like a bad wig. It does it just Takes you out. I mean, I did it's such like a realistic show in other in other ways, and then these wigs that, like, move with their whole bodies, high school drama department did you get these wigs from? It was so bizarre.

Actually, they're Stanzos. They're they're good. It's not a Shineheart? Everybody looks good in a Shineheart. Of course, it's not a Shineheart.

Yeah. I watched that show. I was very engaged by Dopesick. Yeah. But it does it does drop pretty deeply into melodrama for sure.

And to tonally, it gets rough. Like, similar to what Adri was saying and what you're saying. Apparently, I just wanna grab everybody's fucking coattails here. The tonal shifts were the things that sometimes were, like, fuck. And I was but also I was, like, fuck.

Like, there was a level of, like, we don't give a shit. We're doing what we're doing. Like, that I was just like, I respect it. Like Yeah. I mean, yeah, apparently, they don't.

And also, it's a rough story. So it's hard to be like, oh, I loved it. You know? Because it it is very rough. That was a roller coaster of emotion.

Yeah. That that girl's second relapse, I wasn't really on board for the first one, but the second one, great time. You knew it. No. I was into it.

I go, you go, me go, Paul go. You know what? I'm gonna actually I'm gonna coattail again since we're Yeah. On this subject. Ben, I just rewatched the fuck it in.

I'm telling you. I didn't do anything. With your boy I don't care. Harry Ford. You do though.

But I I just thought, apparently, we both watch this thing that's really about how drug companies are bad. They'll they'll put it they'll try to put an innocent man to death, and they'll have to, like, jump off a green screen bus and shit, and get taste by Tommy Lee Jones at his absolute best. The movie is just fucking a, it's so grounded. And anytime I get a movie with Tommy Lee Jones and a one armed man, Rolling Thunder, this whatever. I apparently, I'm just aces.

That's it crept toward 4a half for me. I did fall asleep and then had to, like, go back and forth a little on Tubi. It's been a rough week, but what a movie. What a movie. For anyone who hasn't seen it, I've Ben, you have a steel book.

Right? Something fancy. Like, man, I gotta get on that. I bet, like, at home, it fucking rules. And the special features are great.

They have a behind the scenes feature at all about that that train stunt, how they actually did it practically, which is insanity. It looks good. It still looks pretty good. I haven't seen that in years years years. It's definitely worth a rewatch.

It's so good. And Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones are great. And I think I wrote on Letterbox, I love a Harrison Ford as Jean Valjean and Tommy Lee Jones as Javert. It's, I mean, it's just like this. That's awesome, man.

I love Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. Is that Yeah. That's what you're good. No. That's it.

Nailed it. Wait. What's his what's his the chubby guy's name Valjean in that? What's his name? What's that mouse's name?

The Isn't it Jean Valjean? Wait. I don't think his name is Jean Valjean. Oh, and oh, you're talking about Cheddar, Monterey Jack. Monterey Jack.

The parlor. Alright. I'm just curious how you got to Chip Chippendale from Jean Valjean. Bad improv skills. Something you can't teach.

Forward with it. I think you could teach that, Paul. Okay. Well Oh, that's so nice. What have I been watching?

What have you been watching? I was gonna ask. I was actually gonna ask. Oh, thank you. In sort of direct correlation with what we watch, I've actually been rewatching, season 4 of Stranger Things.

And in watching E. T. Again, the first season of stranger things is like like so much of E. T. Is is Oh, yeah.

Is part of first season. And then I Jess and I just blaze through, season 3 of the bear. Go on. I I think I was ultimately disappointed by this season. I really I don't know.

I really loved the first two seasons. I think the first season in particular is, I I think, one of the just surprising shows. It, like, gripped me in a way that I didn't expect, and I thought season 3 felt unfinished, and it felt like they started to kind of run out of story a little bit and they started to do a little bit of like characters stepping back into old traits that they've already sort of overcome as a as a means of storytelling where it's like, okay. Well, I guess that seems natural, but it doesn't it's not necessarily interesting. Yeah.

I thought it was good individual episodes, some really beautiful moments. Ultimately, as a season, I thought it kinda Is this the 3rd season now? Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you guys not seen I having work having been a kitchen worker most of my adult life gives me too much anxiety to watch shows about kitchens.

But, I so and it's kind of one of those things where, like, I don't know. When I come home from the drama in a kitchen, I don't really feel like watching it on TV. But, actually, even just being a few months removed from my job, I actually probably could watch it now. But I just every Does it say you're unemployed? Yeah.

I might have would. I can do it. Part time. Part time unemployed. Yeah.

But, like, people would come in. There were people that would even in the bakery would come in. I literally heard this guy one time be like, you know, this is kind of like the bear. Have you seen the bear? I feel like it's a really realistic he's just saying this in line to everyone around.

I think it's a pretty realistic, depiction of what what it is to work in a kitchen. Have you because it if because this is kind of like the bear, and we're like, oh my god. Okay. We get it. So it's been hard to wanna watch it.

But I I probably will. I love Matty Matheson, who's in it, who's a real chef. I love him as a Yeah. And comedy guy. So Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's definitely worth watching even as someone who worked in a kitchen before as well. It did there are PTSD moments, but I ultimately really, really enjoy it. Mhmm. So yeah.

Anyway, let's not talk about the bear anymore. It's not a bear. This is a ferret. It's it might be a coyote. I'm gonna a Peter coyote?

I'm gonna tell you some facts. Oh, I get it. Archaeology is the search for facts. I, I'll I'll tell you this for free. We watched extraterrestrial, the extraterrestrial.

It's from Amblin Entertainment. It was distributed and partly produced by Universal Pictures. Parental guidance is suggested. The you you could get the scaries. 1982, 1 hour and 55 minutes.

Budget on this film is 10,500,000. 34,100,000 adjusted. Nothing gets made for that amount anymore. Opening weekend, June 13, 1982. Bullish.

That's a date. 11,800,000. So barely outdid its budget opening weekend. US, that's 38.4. Final gross in North America, let's see if I can do this.

437,300,000. The adjusted number is $1,530,000,000. Jesus. The final gross of this movie worldwide. This is not a franchise movie unless you count it as being part of the Star Wars universe, which technically, I guess, it fucking is.

Final gross worldwide, 792,900,000. That's $2,580,000,000 adjusted. Wow. What releases this weekend? Grease 2.

Oh. Weekend top 5. This is gonna blow you away. This movie, Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan. Rocky 3, Paul favorite Rocky.

Poltergeist, Grease 2. Eeked it out. Little thing about Poltergeist real quick. There's a rumor that Spielberg was the AD or part time director on Poltergeist, and I get some of that feel in this move. And and Spielberg has said many times, like, that's Tobe Hooper.

That's Tobe Hooper. It's not me. I love Poltergeist, but, like, I there's, like, a crossover in terms of the eeriness that I really enjoy. Definitely. I feel that.

Mhmm. Yeah. Top five films from this year domestic. Okay. This you won't believe.

It was this movie. Rocky 3, On Golden Pond, Shouts to Fonson and Hepburn. Yeah. An officer and a gentleman, and Porkies. Different time.

Oh. Different time. Other jokes from 1982. The best little whorehouse in Texas. A much less offensive or strange movie than Porky's, somehow.

Yep. The the toy, Taps. Airplane 2, the sequel, deathtrap, reds, and Prawn. Letterboxd average, 3.8. Follow us.

You can follow me on Letterboxdrunbmc. Paul's at Paul acts badly. Adria, do you know about Letterbox? Not I know about it. I don't have one, though.

We like it. About it. I thought about it. We're fans. You know, now a little more to consider, I guess.

I'm unemployed. I can that's great. I can learn new apps. Fuck it. I did.

Siskel and Ebert gave this movie a t l, thumbs up. Is that different than 2 thumbs up? Oh, the sheet says t e o, Thumbs up. So that's what it was. This is a special one.

I'm just doing it as written. I'm a theater guy. Whatever the, you know, the writers got here. I'm just I'm going with 3 You wrote it though. I know.

Notice the other thing I said. Rotten Tomatoes 99. Metacritic 92. Major award wins and nominations. This movie won 4 Oscars for best music in score.

Best sound, sound effects editing, best visual effects. This movie was nominated for several Oscars including the Biggie Biggs best director and best picture. Ben, tell me tell me the people. I'm gonna tell you about some people that have been involved with this movie. I would like to preface it with the fact that Paul is the one who adds what movies these people, have other, relations with.

Your best acting performance every single time you fucking bring it and do what you gotta do. This is my best acting performance? Okay. Because you won't take accountability for the things that you do. And, audio wise, you sound convincing.

So I'll give you that. This is frankly, this is the best acting I've ever seen you do, Ben. Because he did this shit. I, I feel like that is thank you. Hey.

You went in cold drinks. Director of this film is my personal friend who brushed my shoulder at the Oscar party, Steven Spielberg. He is very well known for the Sugar Land Express, The Terminal and Always. Writer Melissa Madison, the BFG, another Spielberg venture. Ponyo, which is a delightful Studio Ghibli film, and Kundun.

Director of photography, Alan Davio. RIP, Alan. He did Bugsy, Avalon, and Congo. That's a movie about bad gorillas. There is.

RIP, Harambe. I miss them every day. Aw. It just feels really inappropriate after we just said RIP about this guy. I'm tempted.

Yeah. I'll cut that. Alright. Fine. Harambe was a beautiful animal.

Goddamn it. You know, I don't think you should cut I don't think you should cut it, to be honest. I think you're right about, like RIP, Harambe. It's back in. It's back on the show.

Cut it and then put it somewhere else. RIP Harambe. I think I think it's ET if ET knew about Harambe, he would want you to say RIP. He would have brought his ass back, man. He would have undone that.

He wanna Yeah. With his little light. Little empathetic. Ouch. I have to write here.

Music was John Williams. He did Home Alone 1 and 2 and The Patriot, the, Roland Emmerich 1 and stepmom. Mhmm. The Home Alone scores do not get enough love. Those scores are so good.

They really are. That's awesome. Yeah. That is a weird pull. It's stepmom with everybody knows he did Harry Potter and Star Wars and Indiana it's like, give him alone a little love.

Give stepmom. Stepmom. People love us. Julia Roberts. Oh, Julia Roberts.

I think I was thinking of Susan Sarandon. With Kathleen Turner, the John Waters movie? That movie Yeah. Is so I was like, he did that. Like, yeah.

Okay. Stepmom. Anyway I do love serial mom. That's good. Producers on this, guess what?

Steven Spielberg back again also produced Transformers revenge of the fallen. Kathleen Kennedy, you know her because she produced Star Wars episode 9, the rise of Skywalker and Congo. RIP Harambe. And Congo. Keeps coming back.

Cast. We have Henry Thomas plays Elliot, Legends of the Fall, Gangs of New York, the Quickie, and Mike Flanagan's number one man. Truly. All of the House of Usher. Yeah.

Yeah. I think he's in all of the Flanagan, shows. No. Yeah. I think yeah.

He is in all of them. Midnight. And I Caped the Castle. Did you guys ever see that? I loved that.

That was a that was a girl movie. I if I I don't think I saw that one. Okay. Which movie? I capture the castle.

It was cute. This is new info to me. It's, like, 2,001 or something like that. It's a real high school girl rom com, early 2000 kind of movie. But, anyway He also plays the, Nicholson role in Doctor Sleep Yeah.

Which is a really fun little moment. Drew Barrymore is in this movie. She you didn't put her character name. I know. Gertie.

I missed it. Gertie. He's so cute. She is. She is so cute.

Poison Ivy, never been kissed, Charlie's Angels. Dee Wallace plays Mary. She was in Cujo, the howling, and Critters. Peter Coyote Coyote's in the house. Is just referred to as Keys.

A walk to remember patch atoms and sphere. My dad knows your coyote. What? He he grew up, he was friends with my uncle in Chicago when they were growing up, so my dad knows him. Awesome.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Would he come on the podcast? I I bet they haven't spoken in 50 years, but maybe That wasn't that wasn't my favorite. Saying there's a chance?

No problem. There's a good chance. Ben and I rewatched jaws the other night together with, a frozen burrito in tow, and I was, Roy Scheider, who I really enjoy. I'm pretty sure I mentioned what happened to the Roy Scheider type and was rattling out Scott Glenn and these and I'm pretty sure I said Peter Coyote. Mhmm.

It's just an AI. I believe you did. Actor with fucking gravitas. You know? There's a Mhmm.

Level of command. I don't know what it is. Mhmm. Well, he is wildy. Robert McNaughton plays Eric.

Mostly TV, Amen and Newheart. Casey Martell plays Greg, the Amityville Horror Bloody Birthday. Sean Fry plays Steve followed Dick and Jane, the original real genius. He's a science fair kid. And c Thomas Howell plays Tyler, the Hitcher, the Outsiders, and Red Dawn.

Wolverines. Yeah. For anyone who's seen that. Yeah. I was trying to think of the what was the other one?

What's the what's the Red Dawn book that I know? Avenge me. Is that what it is? Avenge me. You're absolutely correct.

That's why I just went blank for a minute. I was like, I know online from that movie. I like that you pick and choose when you put original because Red Dawn's that movie with Chris Hemsworth. Right? That is an yeah.

Yeah. I should have clarified it was the original, the John Melius. That's my b. Oh. My b.

It's okay. Okay. I forgive you. Fun facts. I have some fun facts.

Fun facts fun facts everybody. It's fun fact time. Okay. So Erica, l in yak? Elna Yep.

As I always call her, is the girl that Elliot kisses in the frog liberation scene. She's credited as pretty girl and starred on the international show Baywatch, and in Under Siege starring Steven Fidal. And, actually, I will say, during the movie, I had a moment, where in that scene, I was like, you know what is a great shot is when he's getting dragged away, like, by his ear or by the scruff of his neck, and it just shows her feet. And she, like, just kind of twists her ankle a little bit in a way that's like, aw, she's into it. You know?

I was like, that is a good shot. And I'm not someone who normally thinks in that way. So as if that is a good me. I also like that I also like that Elliot has a stand on that kid to kiss her. Yeah.

Yeah. He stands up on the kid to kiss her. That is that is a very cute part. I do like that. I was horrified that they were all gonna just, like, kill a frog, but whatever.

I know. I was like, did not only dissect, but kill them? That's You have to watch them die? Oh, my kids. You'll notice the heart is still beating as you make the incision.

And I'm just and I I remember the first time seeing this movie, that moment is crystal for me, that frog scene, because I was terrified they were gonna kill those frogs. And then when the frogs got out, I was thrilled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank god. But because I will yeah. I was like, we're gonna watch we're gonna watch what seems at first, like, 20 frogs and then turns into, like, 500. And then they're just, like, swarmed in frogs somehow. But, yeah.

I yeah. I was horrified they were gonna have to do that. But That really was an invasive species. Like, they were kids. One.

Fairly. So another one is most of the full body puppetry was performed by a 2 foot, 10 inch tall stuntman. Stutman, I almost said. Stubman. But the scenes in the kitchen were done using a 12 year old boy who was born without legs, but was an expert on walking on his hands.

Oh, I didn't mean this before. What? No. The scene That's so awesome. The kid walking on his hands.

He hooked the drunk scene. Right? Apparently. Yeah. Yeah.

When he's drunk like, when he's wobbling around the kitchen. What? They were like How did they upside down in a suit? I can't believe they let him drink beer. He's only 12.

And he was wasted. That's that is wild. That's wild. That's when he does his best work. Yeah.

Like Just like Paul. I wonder what I wonder what made them think, like, our 2 foot tall stuntman can't just walk this. I need to get on their hand. We need a special, special situation. He's gotta have a walk that seems like he's from another planet.

I know how to do it. That's why. I wonder if they had the idea and then auditioned for that or if they I don't know. Knew about this kid and then were like, let's use that kid. Because all your friend look here.

Do you have your kid auditioning for that? Who the heck do I do that? This this Give me all your no late, kid. This was this fact, like, I checked in 3 places to be like, are you sure? Because it just seemed so far fetched and insane to me, but apparently it's true.

I mean, I'm I'm picturing his shuffle now and I can kind of see it. But that upside and upside down okay. Alright. Has has everyone seen 5th element? Adri, have you seen 5th element?

Oh, my cat is named Leeloo. You know how the, the gods are, like, the the robots walk? Uh-huh. ET I was like, e ET walks like that. ET.

ET walks just like that. I couldn't stop, like, thinking about that. Well, we know how they did it in Okay. Still there, apparently. Whole bunch of no licked kids.

Alright. Anyway, moving on. Sir Richard Attenborough said that he felt bad that his film, Gandhi, won the best picture Academy Award because he considered ET more deserving of the award and was convinced before the ceremony that it would and should win. Oh, nice. That's incredible.

Yeah. You've given it to him then. Should've given it to him. That's all I've been thinking. Just hand hand it to the guy.

It's Here. I know where it is. Harrison Ford filmed oh, I remember hearing that. Harrison Ford filmed a cameo role as Elliott's school headmaster. He only eventually agreed to it because as with most of the adult characters up to that point in the film, his face wouldn't have been seen.

Oh, so even though he filmed it, his face wouldn't even have been it. Oh, it did make its debut. I'm sounding really convincing like I know this stuff, Norman. The scene eventually made its debut in the 96 laser disc release. I'm sold.

Y'all are bringing the chops today with the acting. Just cold, like, selling shit. Very actor. We're all killing it, guys. At the auditions, Henry Thomas, thought about the day his dog died to express sadness.

Yes. Yes. Director Steven Spielberg cried and offered him the role of Elliot on the spot. I mean, we've all done that, and I've never been offered a role on the spot. That's what I have to say about that.

I will say, though, for kid kid acting, he's, like, incredible. He is very good. Has everyone very good. And when he's crying, it's, like, really sad. Has everyone seen his audition tape?

Oh, no. I have. Oh, it's incredible. Special feature. Yeah.

Incredible. Not, like, not booking him in the room would almost feel like a crime. Like, I I've left a room and, like, gotten an email, like, 20 minutes later, and that was such an incredible feeling. Like, that's happened one time, never again. Never in the room, obviously.

You watch that audition, and it's, like, how can you not literally book this kid in this second, in this moment? Like, do not let him go. Yeah. He is really good. And Drew Barrymore is really good too.

Like, 2 strong little kid actors in that movie for sure. The only thing I've ever had said to me in the room is how how did you get in here? You weren't on the list sir, you're not invited sir, get out of here. You have too many legs, how'd you even get in? I just thought maybe I need the work man.

I'll cut him off, I don't know. Look, guys. Just cut it. Just cut me off when you need to. It took me a hot second.

We already had an exploding kids, ad. So, apparently, now we're gonna have a legless children ad. We'll see. We'll see. I think that we got a little more fun to have here before we go to break.

Well, I have one more fun fact. Exactly. Yes. Had a mat, had Read it as written. I'm gonna okay.

Fine. I'll read it as written. This movie, Mad, a theatrical run for me over a year. It was mad about it. It was like, let me retire.

I've been in the theaters for freaking year. So that is wild, though. That is wild. Yeah. Everyone was like, you're Paul Reiser to me.

I'm mad about you. I'm mad. I'm mad about you. I'm gonna I'm gonna do the mean thing, Ben. I'm not gonna make you do the mean thing unless you wanna do the mean thing.

Do you want to? I don't want to. I know. Why do I volunteer? Me?

Yeah. Kinda. Adria, you've had a good time up to this point. Yeah? Okay.

Well, that that d plus level of enthusiasm is gonna about to move to an f. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to say yes or no. Well, if you were having a good time, one would assume you'd just say yes. Oh, sure. Sure.

I'm indecisive, if nothing. I mean, we are we are holding you to gun gunpoint. I know. I know. And I don't know the right answer, but go on.

We'll take your legs. So what is the log line to ET the extraterrestrial? Give me your, like, 3 or 4 sentence elevator pitch. This isn't what it really is. And you can't I'm pitching it.

Yeah. Just give me your version. Okay. So okay. This is why I'm not in LA because that's how I started it.

Okay. So have you ever seen that's how I would pitch it. Have you ever seen okay. You know how many aliens are like Hans Moleman? That's what I kept I did.

You know how aliens are like Hans Moleman? Like a peanut. What if he's, like, really nice? Mom, dad, I love And then and then they and then and then but then he does it. Bravo.

Am I green lit? I like the idea of just, like, imagine Hans Moleman shows up and he's everything you wanted and more. He's an alien alien. From that. He's an alien.

Okay. Wait. Imagine Hans okay. Okay. You know how wait.

Here's another Imagine Hans Woven and a testicle had a baby. You know why he says aliens are scary? Yes. This one's not as scary. Well, he is, but he's nice.

Well, I that was the same British. Do you want the do you want the actual one? Are you ready? Oh, it wasn't that? Yeah.

Go ahead. That was very close. Within a word or 2. Yeah. A troubled child summons the courage to help a friendly alien escape from Earth and return to his home planet.

I'm gonna be honest with you. I've been clamoring for a Hans Moleman feature for a long time and I wanna see this one. Yeah. Well, this is it. And, I mean, honestly, that's not not what I said.

I guess I didn't say anything about the kid or him being stranded on Earth. Like, that's the story. It was inferred. It was inferred. I forgot I forgot to say what the plot was.

Yeah. I guess that's it. Plot's a lot. It helps him get back to his home. You know?

You were close. Since I know the mean thing, I just got a wire. It looks like not because I did the mean thing. I don't know why I needed to justify. This episode is brought to you by Hans Moleman.

Aw. Great. I think it's important that Hans Moleman gets as much recognition as possible. And any Simpsons reference that we can possibly get in champion, we gotta do it. Of course.

He he swallowed it. So we should Yeah. I mean by like sending us a couple of free sodas or something. That was the I all I got was a foot with a groin. Mangatin the boy with a ball.

Mangatin the boy with a football. Should we take a break? I really need to use the restroom quickly. Great. Seems like seems like we shouldn't then.

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Just in this moment. Yeah. No. You're no longer. And now you're compelling the podcast forward.

So, technically, kinda winning. Yeah. Hashtag winning Tigerblood. What an odd thing to say. My first experience with the cinematic, I'll call it a masterpiece that is ET the extraterrestrial is similar to a lot of movies that I feel like are core parts of, like, someone's like I can't remember the first time I watched this movie.

I've just I've watched it so many times over the course of my life especially at a young age. So it clearly made an impact and, like, I don't think I fully I think something that I really appreciated about this movie when I was a kid and even more so as an adult now is like how amazing the kid actors are and how seriously Spielberg takes them as a filmmaker and gives them the brains of this of the story which is why I think I love Stranger Things so much because I think it does the same thing. And so I don't know what I would have given it back then because I I was a kid and, kids are dumb after I just said all that. But I re actually before I watched it yesterday, I I rewatched it in 2020 for the first time with Jess because she hadn't seen it. I was so surprised she hadn't seen it because she's a big fan of Stranger Things and I was like, oh, well you have to watch E.

T. And of course, she loved it and I just think it it just does everything it wants to do and it just like gives you that feeling to get it again and it's exciting and there's adventure and I've always sort of been in this range but I I'm at 4 and a half peanut butter M and M's. Oh. Come at me. They're the superior peanut butter treat.

I agree. Adria. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

So me yeah. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Please. Tell me what.

How much is this gonna cost? I, I'll I'll tell you this for free. You know? I'll tell you this for free. I'm just gonna tell you.

Yeah. Yeah. You're getting this one on the house. Thanks. Last time I saw ET before yesterday, I was 5, and it was the scariest move I've ever seen in my whole life.

That's how it has rained in my head. When I there's an alarm going off on my phone. I don't know why. Nothing happens at 8 PM. I saw this in the basement of my great aunt's house in Dallas, Texas when I was 5 with my brother and cried the whole time.

Now my brother in recent years has said you probably were just freaked out because we were, like, at a a relative's house. And we also were in Dallas. Like, who's not crying in Dallas? This bitch. So, like, he's like, maybe we're in the right direction.

Everyone's crying in Dallas. No crying in baseball. Everyone cries in Dallas. Working there. Yeah.

So maybe I was freaked out because I was, like, okay, and I was, like, alone. But I also I just wanna point out I wasn't a weedy kid because one of my favorite movies of all time was Killer Klowns from Outer Space. As a child, I love that movie. It still is one of my favorites. And I used to show it to my friends, and they would cry.

My mom would be like, don't do that, Adria. You gotta program the kids. So why was I watching it? I don't know. But, like, this movie scared the crap out of me.

And, I mean, really, my memory is that it is so scary. I would have given it as a child one of those, like, wigs that ET wears. 50 black slate back hair wig. 50 black slate back hair wig. Because I I mean, truly It's not a shineheart.

One Stanza shine wig. Yeah. One Stanza wig. Same same place that they got the wigs for Dope Sick. That was my original thought and, yeah, as far as my memory of it.

And you just rewatched this. Okay. So my feeling now, well, it's way better. You weren't crying the whole time. To be honest with you, kind of.

I was crying. I was crying this time too, but for a different reason. But, partially, I was just like, I'm old. You know? That was part of But, no, it's, like, it's so sad.

And they they kid actors are really good. And little ET, Hans Mollman guy, I mean, he's he's a good actor too, I guess. That that kid on his hands really does it. You know? Really sells the character.

I also recently watched Jaws, and so to watch this afterwards, it was like, Spielberg, you know what you're doing, sir. You know? He's pretty famous for a reason. Okay. I think I would give it because it's not my favorite, Spielberg.

But also I also have the thing because, like, you said you grew up with this movie, Ben, and I definitely have the feeling and maybe you guys felt like this too as kids from the eighties, nineties, that the movies you owned, you watched a 1000 times, and those are, like, your favorites sometimes in a way because you just did watch them a 1000000 times. So I have that, you know, with the willows of the world, princess bride and stuff like that. And gremlin. This felt this felt like gremlins a lot to me in some ways, which I love. And I love gremlins.

But but I hadn't I didn't have the childhood memory of it, so I just but then there also is the nostalgia of seeing it now, and I also thought about stranger things as while I was watching it. So I would say so it's not my favorite Spielberg, but it still is very, very good. You're good. So you did 4 and a half. I would say 4.

I would say 4. And I'm not gonna even say wigs anymore. I'm gonna say 4 of those pizzas that they step on by accident at the still kinda Oh, yeah. Even though he snacked on it and pulled it off the top of the The pizza was still the pizza was still good. They could've eaten it.

It was still good. How dare they? So for. That's food. You're just gonna throw away perfectly good food?

Ungrateful. Fuck. So to Adria's point well, partially, because I was in my early late fifties when I saw this on Betamax in the eighties. I was an AARP member of the eighties, not a child. When I was a kid, this was one of my favorite movies.

I'm almost sure it was a black tape with a green, like, tape door. I'm pretty sure I wore out at least one of these tapes. I was that kid. There's unquestionably, this was my favorite movie at some point in time when I was a child. So Adria was like, fucking nail meat, fucking hammer.

Yeah. I was that kid. I watched this movie, I wanna say, maybe again, somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 years ago. And when I was a kid, kid kid because all your friend left here. About 5.

Of course. Good. Wearing out of wore out of fucking tape. Watched this several years ago and was like, yeah, still great. Holds up somewhere in the neighborhood of a 4.

Now, just having rewatched it and this is gonna happen a lot while I talk, what a score. And I just a fun fact that I didn't put down what came across and I probably should have put down. Normally, composers get a movie and then make music, and that's the whole deal. Spielberg went through reedits of this film and changing speeds of things and stuff to make the music fit the film, and John Williams won the Oscar. And so what a fucking collaborative effort and clearly Spielberg knew what was here and what it could do.

I give this 4 and a half speak and spells. I wanted to give it 4 and a half Johnny Bills because it's a lot of Johnny Bills happening here, but I'll go with 4 and a half speak and spells because that was one of the thing. I thought that was the coolest fucking toy when other kids had it or whatnot. I always wanted to put that's the e t toy, e t toy, e t toy. And I saw saw that speak and spell and immediately was like, oh, speak and spell.

And so it's there are a lot of nostalgia pulls with this for me. And as we've been talking about stranger things, that's a big thing that they're effective with is finding these things to grab you like that. Wow. What a foundational piece of film this is. What a dorky fucking statement.

A piece of foundational piece of film, But it's it really truly But also, it's a cornerstone in many ways, and I think was Spielberg's kind of first time doing a family movie as far as I know. Sugar Land Express, man. Of course. Yeah. Before we oh, man.

My my thought was in my head, and it poured out of me like a Miller High Life. Like a Whatever. What are they Like a like a Course. Oh, yeah. Coors.

Like a Coors. Coors. Yeah. A gremlin exploding in the microwave? Because we can talk about that instead anytime people are ready.

Ben, you probably said, gremlins is mentioned, and I'm like a fucking Christmas tree over here. I'm sure. You just you just fed it you just fed the goddamn hiding in a Christmas tree. First off, before we do start the movie, Adriane, can you show me your shirt again? Oh.

Your shirt? It's it's Doc Holliday. C'est when? That's amazing. Which I wore did did you see this saga years ago, Ben?

I wore to meet Val Kilmer, and I gave him I made him a chocolate a chalk holiday. I made him a chocolate silhouette thing of his face, and I gave it to him. And he took a picture of me with him on his phone and posted it on all his social media, and I was so excited. I was late for work the next day because I was freaking out. I remembered my thought real quick before we start the movie.

Did anyone ever go on the ET universal ride? No. Oh my god. A classic. A classic.

Did you fly across the moon in the sun? No longer the moon and the sun? It no long yeah. You do. You fly it's kinda like, it kinda goes into that Peter Pan esque ride where you, like, fly above and you see below.

Oh, yeah. But the line the line for that ride was iconic because you were just in it was so immersive. You were in the forest, and there were, like, walkie talkies around, and there was a specific smell. It no longer exists here. I think it might still exist in Orlando.

Last time I was in Orlando, had to have been, like, I don't know, like 10 years ago now, but I went on it. And it's one of those rides where you you put your name in at the front, and then they at the end, ET is like, goodbye, Benjamin. Oh, god. That's amazing. And, like, no famous thing to do scary at all.

It sounds like just a normal human man. You got it. Yeah. But they famously had to, like, curb it because some people would be like, good. I, my cunt.

You know? And, like, just put in put in whatever they won't get by, Terry Ball Sack. Can I talk to my friend, Hugh Jazz? Yes. This is Hugh Jazz.

Mhmm. I'm just making a prank phone call, mister. Oh, what a nice young man. You you can actually buy a candle of the smell of that ride. Oh, what?

Uh-uh. Yeah. What did it smell like? Like mechanical ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass. No.

It smelled like kinda kinda like artificial pine tree. It tried to smell like the forest. Like a little like a little tree in your car? Can I just get a Not like that? No?

Okay. It's hard to really hard to describe. Oh, I'm so sad. I've never been to any Universal Studios. I do think Spielberg had a direct hand in designing that ride too.

He's very cool. Are you okay, Paul? Yeah. Sorry. My phone keep like, the screen keeps, like, freaking out and I'm just trying to keep my notes up.

So you Is your alarm going off? Maybe your alarm Are you doing it? No. I just doing it. You know, it was just like, you know, Cameron on the t two ride and a lot of these folks that are filmmakers are like, no.

I have a lot of pride in this thing and wanna have involvement and kinda put a stamp of approval on it, which I appreciate. Mhmm. Yeah. It's time. Well It's time now.

It's time. Cocktail movie. Socktail movie. Socktail movie. And now, our feature presentation.

Life as a house. Does anyone remember or expect purple titles? I did not remember or ex I don't know why. It just stood out to me in such a way. I didn't remember really that it started with this little prologue of the ET alien race being, like, chased off Earth or whatever.

The exploration where they're kinda gathering plants or what have you? Yeah. I had no memory of anything about, like, that at all. I I didn't remember Purple Credits. I didn't remember how, like, eerie and ominous the music was for a little bit, which is fucking great.

But I do remember, like, these trucks showing up, and very early on the movie is establishing that these creatures are being tracked. Like, they've been it seems like they must have been to Earth before at some point, maybe? Right. I did break into Area 51. And With Mark Hoppus and Tom DeLonge?

No. Yeah. How'd that go? Yeah. I'm in jail.

Take out your pants and jacket. Might as well. I noticed the the music right at the beginning, though. I was like, this is some fun spooky music right off the bat. I did think about that.

Yeah. Something like otherworldly, like unknown. It doesn't feel like sinister. Like, I should be afraid, but it feels like, oh, like, curiosity, like, treads tread forward slowly, but come forward. Mhmm.

And the way they shoot when we get the bad guys, the way we just see these flashlights and, like, the the environmentals, the the all the atmosphere stuff is great. But just seeing them and their keys, it was just such a great way to to demonize them in a way where you're just like, oh, yeah. These guys fucking suck. Fucking suck. Yeah.

And you don't Yeah. They're, like, after him, and you you're already not agreeing with him, and you don't know what. Yeah. These guys suck. I feel like Spielberg is really, really, really good at villains, at hordes of villains.

Like, whether it's Nazis in Indiana Jones or these dudes. Like, he's just really good at showing you immediately who to root who not to root for, I guess. Yeah. Not that you would root for the Nazis anyway. I don't know why you would.

The whole I don't know. 2024 in the United States. Nazis been Racist Nazis. So watch it. Racist Russian Nazis.

The scariest kind. I also love that I I still wear my keys on my, belt loop on the side of my pants. So outdated? Question mark. I don't know if anybody really cares.

Is that does it feel comfortable? Do you like it? It's just normal for me at this point. Is it outdated? Then do it.

Allowed to do that? Where else would you put it? In your pocket, I guess. I don't like to put keys in my pocket because you fall and trip on them. And you're You do.

I've done that. Nature's fault. I've done that. Falling on keys is unpleasant. In this case, the kids, when we come up to the house, like, the, you know, the ETs fucking scatter and extraterrestrial extraterrestrial is left behind.

Yeah. And we don't, because he gets separated because he's being chased by these researchers or whatever the hell they are. And now we come up to the family home. This is where I'm like, oh, development neighborhood, like, kinda cul de sac, whatever. It, like, so much of it feels or looks a lot like Poltergeist.

There are so many things in this movie that were, like, I wanna watch Poltergeist, which was the first time I've ever felt that watching this. Well, you said the thing about Poltergeist that I had seen somewhere that supposedly Spielberg, if he worked on the other movie too, like, as a producer or whatever, but, like, wanted them to come out at the same time to complement each other. Like, one was, like, a nightmare and one was, like, a nice dream of something bizarre happening, but, like, the good or the bad outcome of it that they were, like, supposed to go together. Because they really do remind one of one another. I mean, they were filmed at literally the exact same time.

Yeah. It's wild. Similar feeling. It also like, watching this after living in California, like, oh, this is the valley. Cool.

We're in, like, Studio City or Van Nuys or something. A lot of what they're shooting must be. Because they're supposed to be in, like, the Bay Area, I think. Or aren't they? I don't know if they ever they point to somewhere on the map.

California. That's Yeah. That is kind of boldly California. That's Yeah. Probably the answer boldly California.

Yeah. We get this, yeah, we get the, D and D game that they're playing Yeah. Which, is exactly how Stranger Things season 1 starts. And we meet all of these kids, but most importantly, Elliot. And his older brother is named Mike.

Mike. Yeah. And Elliott just wants to be cool with Mike and the brothers and, like, I'll get you pizza. I just wanna play a D and D. Just like a pretty standard, like, kind of, like, mildly annoying, but, like, he's fine, kinda younger brother dynamic.

They're really Spielberg is so great at, as you were saying, Ben, about villains, so great about establishing just just interdynamics with families or, in groups. It was even in, like, minority report. The dynamics of the team, you understand kinda who's who and what's what in terms of of that. And when Elliott has this close encounter with the ET after getting the pizza, there is obviously this level of, like, dude, you've done this before. We get it.

Yeah. I also pick up now that I'm, you know, in my late thirties, and not a child. You're you're you're my child. Elliot's You're my child. Mom.

Yeah. I know. You're my daddy, but Elliot's I didn't think you're not. Elliot's mom is hot. Elliot's mom is hot.

Dee Wallace? Dee Wallace is a scream queen legend. She's an all timer. I was gonna say the same thing. She really I didn't remember that either.

I was like, foxy mom. Right? And she's got a divorce. Oh, man. Even with those even with those high collars that she's wearing, I think it's where they got the inspiration from Mike's mom in Stranger Things.

Yes. Because because it's, like, the exact same archetype. There are so many parallels. I agree with you. I think so much of that character inspiration comes from this character.

I thought about stranger things as well with just, like, the look of the house and stuff. I was like, dang. That show was so good at recreating really the eighties. Not a caricature of the eighties, but really what the eighties looked like. Yeah.

Definitely. Yeah. And this when we when Elliot, it goes to the shed and the baseball comes out. So great. I almost gave this 4 and a half baseballs.

Oh. The the toss back is that immediate this is the first time it hits me this way. Right? The immediate instinct that the creature has to just, like, toss the ball back to just play, it tells you immediately in the movie, this is safe to whatever degree. The instinct that this thing has is to just, like, be peaceful and play along or go with the flow.

And and it again, it's just established so quickly, so quickly. Do we think ET is a child? Or, like, do we think ET is a kid? I They're pondering. I don't.

I think Okay. T is a wise and pace a patient creature, but also maybe this species just has a tendency to be that. I don't know. But I think ET's probably been around a while. I don't think this was ET's first rodeo.

Well, that's interesting because that also could be one of those things where it's like, well, he's 300, but on his planet, maybe. You know? Yeah. Yeah. He could he could be Yoda esque, you know, or something like that, or he's been around.

Oh, I have a quest oh, this might be jumping forward a lot, but I do have a question. Go ahead. Was it ET specifically who was there before, or was it a different one of those guys? Because Peter Coyote is like, I've seen this before, and I've been waiting for years for him to come back. So I don't think there's any way for them to know because they all look alike.

Right? They all look very similar. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not necessarily him.

It's not just one freaking guy keeps getting lost. Fucking easy. That's why we made him VP. We're not all called easy. He's called the extra turn because he's on a different plane.

He always fucking gets lost. This fucking guy. I was thinking something similar though to when Peter Coyote said that when he says I've been dreaming of this for 20 years where it's, like, dreaming of re encountering this species or just dreaming of encountering an off world species. Or Sure. Yeah.

Well not the same little lost guy. Yeah. Probably not. I'm gonna say no. Are these is this a species that's putting, probes in people's butts?

Maybe you go in Nature's pocket. You go in. You go in up there. Not if they come that. He didn't have any probes with him.

So Well, he has that fingers. That's good. That is a probe. That's quite a probe. It heats That's a great point.

Why is it so much longer? But The the the family dinner thing that happens here where Mhmm. Elliot's gone looking for ET and put out these Reese's Pieces while he's eating them, which is fucking adorable. It's pretty much exactly what a kid approximately that age would do. But the family yeah.

Sure. But the family dinner where Elliot says dad's in Mexico with Sally. Oh my god. Oh. Mhmm.

Yeah. Yeah. The family dynamics are so strong. And I I don't think I realized it till this vlog viewing that really this move is about bringing a family back together because they're they're really combative before ET, especially the siblings. And then, like, the whole, like, competing of, like, no.

You clean up first. No. I already did. No. You did or whatever.

And then ET sort of, like, unifies the kids and then eventually unifies the mom with them. Hot mom. Which I'd the hot mom. Mhmm. Which I didn't pick up on in my past viewings.

And this time I'm like, oh, yeah. This is all about bringing them bringing them back together. So their dad went on fucked it all up. He sure did. Do we know how old Elliot is supposed to be?

Well, they're doing, like they're in, like, a science lab. I feel like they're in, like, junior high. So, like, it couldn't possibly be that old. He looks young he looks younger than that. Because that also I was like, this seems like too old of a project for how young he's supposed to be.

But I saw that this movie by my mind, Drew Barrymore was 7 in that movie, which is, like, way older than she seems. I thought she's 5. Yeah. I I think he's just small because I think, like, the girl that that he kisses, the Baywatch girl He looks like she's, like, 12. Yeah.

Believe 11 or 12. I could believe they're, like, 7th grade. Okay. Yeah. That's about when you do that kind of stuff in some places.

Right? So Or or 6th grade, middle school maybe. I mean, I think, like, that's the time you start having, like, a science class. Right? Yeah.

I guess that's true. He just Small. Like, I would've I would've guessed him at, like, maybe 10 and Drew Barrymore's character as, like, 5. But it seems like they had her play younger, which I guess is not at all weird. Everyone plays younger.

In watching Stranger Things season 4, they're, like, well into their forties. They have their second mortgage and they're, like, 16. That's very true. Whatever, Bobo Freddy Krueger. Just end this shit.

God, I'm tired. I'll take the eternal sleep at this point. But he brings ET into his into he pretends to be sick. Right? He's going to because he stays out all night waiting for HD, and he brings him inside.

And now he's gonna pretend to be sick. And his strategy to be sick in the morning, rock solid. Genius. Isn't that Ferris Bueller? Is that what he does too?

Similar. Yeah. Clammy clammy hands, lick your palms. The thing with the connection between ET and Elliott, the very first time that happens is when they're Elliot takes them up to his room and they are looking at each other and ET starts purring and they low they lull each other essentially to sleep. This was the first time I've watched this movie and been like, oh, woah.

They are making it very clear that this being has chosen to connect to this child, like, really early in the movie, and that's the first time it's hit me like this. Normally, I didn't start to pick it up until considerably later, but I I picked up on that shit earlier this time. It's good. Yeah. I didn't remember that as a concept of the movie at all.

I did not remember that, like, Elliott felt what ET was feeling and that he connected with him. I wonder what the purpose of that. Like, why did ET do that? I guess the question is, like, how do their species communicate? Are they Oh, yeah.

That that would be my question because is this a component of how they communicate? Through feeling. Like, is this yeah exactly it's emotional, it's empathetic. Maybe he like he saw something within Paul just gave a thumbs down to empathy. Shut up.

You piece of shit. You don't know what I'm going through. I'll give you a hug later. Okay. I I this time was, was like, oh, he picked him as like a familiar kind of.

Like, he he saw him as being sort of like a good soul to, like, connect with and help survive this planet maybe. Mhmm. But, yeah, his, like, stay home method of, like, the hot pad on the face and put the thermometer on the light bulb, lamp, and now She takes a step insisting. You're 150 degrees. You should be sick.

There must be some people with this thermometer. Mom said, okay. Okay. You're hot. I have to go.

No TV. I was like, what? He's sick. What else is he gonna do? And he's not gonna listen to you.

Like, what? Why okay. That's just but it's not what the parent would say. But what did we all watch when we were sick at 10 AM Price is Right. On CBS.

Price is Right. Thank you. That's what I was gonna say too. Yeah. Come on down.

Hell yeah, bruh. Just looking at the kids' stuff and all this stuff that they're doing with ET for ET to kind of explore the surroundings that aren't the middle of the forest. Here are fish. Here are toys. Here is this.

Here is that. And the level of curiosity and level of intrigue that comes off of that puppet is fucking unparalleled. It's great. It's so good. That Is this a Jim it looks like it's, like, oh, fucking awesome.

It's like Is this a Jim is this a Jim Henson creche? I don't know. No. It's not. I I saw something about it was, the same guy that made King Kong and the alien from aliens.

Oh. Oh, wow. He's Italian. He's probably related to him. But, yeah.

But I no. I don't think he was Jim Henson. But speaking of the actual being of ET, do you notice the moment when the first time his finger lights up, his eyes dilate? No. And for the second, I thought you said did you remember the Moleman?

Good Moleman to you. And I was like, yes. But you said Momen. Okay. Do you remember the the moment part?

Yeah. It all comes back to that. But I was like, oh, that was a really good because this is definitely the time in the eighties where they're doing their best. Some of the stuff some of the stuff looks like it was from the eighties. But then there's moments of, like, quite good I'm not even gonna call it animation.

I don't know how they did that in the eighties. Like, how they would make eyes dilate like that. It looked, like, very realistic. It was very cool. I mean, they probably had, like, a cable or something that operated like like that thing to do.

So, like, some crazy fucking we we don't have all the money in the world or computer technology. How do we do this? And somebody fucking killed themself, making sure that I dilated in that moment, and it's fucking worth it. It's worth it. MJ MJ Sewer said during our In Space episode, which I've thought about a lot recently, which is when when you're doing practical stuff on sets, you're inevitably giving more attention to the filmmaking as a whole in the moment as opposed to being able to do it in post.

And I think that is what I keep coming back to. We have been in this an ongoing question we've had in this program is why are practical effects even when they aren't necessarily like believable I guess still more like endearing and I I guess that's what I keep coming back to is like oh because you can see the craftsmanship you can see that they are like putting work in on this on the movie as a whole. It has to be good now. It has to be good now. Not later.

It has to be good now and always. Not later. Yeah. I Yeah. So come back to one of my favorite movies, Killer Clowns from Outer Space.

I've seen a lot of, things about how they made the masks of those clowns, and they are the type of thing that, like, close-up. They they look freaking awesome, and it showed them, like, there's this scene where one clown is sucking blood out of the cotton candy guy, and it showed how they, like, attached fishing wire to his cheeks to just, like, pull his lips back to make it look like he was making a sucking motion. It was so cool. I love that. I love shit like that.

It's it's even, like, practical shit. Like, this is another moment. ET pops the umbrella, and that's another moment where it's, like, oh, clearly these 2 are emotionally tied because it hits Elliot in a way that it hits ET. But when the puppet, like, falls over, it's really good. Yeah.

I don't expect, like, that to look as convincing or whatnot as it does because things like walking around drunk or falling over, shit like that for a puppet or people puppeteering or a sun like, that shit's really hard and it looks really good. And part of the reason why it does is this movie is edited beautifully. To edit be able to edit between e t and Elliot, e, Elliot, e, and then a t at the end. Who knows? But but to be able to balance between the two of them is such a beautiful device for editing storytelling, so on and so forth.

Mhmm. Did you mention who the editor was? Because the editor well, we didn't. But the editor was amazing. I'm wondering.

Yeah. ET is not a secret for long as Ben's looking for the editor. Is is Eric the name of the son or the the brother? Isn't it Mike? Mike?

We have Eric. Mike and Gertie. I don't remember the name of the after. It might have been It doesn't matter. You can cut all this.

Elliot doesn't keep ET a secret from Mike and Gertie for long. It's just through that fake sick day, and I cannot tell you how many times in my life, and I can't remember the fucking lyric right now, but when Mike's in the fridge and he's like, yo selection or what I used to always just say that line when I was a kid, and I never heard the song, didn't know what the song was. But I always thought, you know, as we're talking about difficulty in the family, for me, it's clear that all of these people love each other very much. There's just, like, this rub. There's this button that especially Elliot knows how to hit.

Like, Mike is super protective. He's a very, like, doting son. He clearly is like, I'm the man of the house now to me. And so it's like Elliott is the is more the issue, and it's about Elliott understanding feelings. I'm not cutting that out.

Elliott understanding feelings and what he's doing, and ET kind of centers him, and that's kind of the way I feel about it. It does bring the family ultimately back together because Elliott is is the fucking annoying point here. He's the one who really has to, like, get on board with the with the new way. Will you help teach me about this? What is it?

A new way? And ET is the one who brings him to the new way. Well, and he gets his siblings now are in the pit. Like, they Yep. They know him.

Mike comes in, breaks that whole shelf, and Admit I'm the ultimate ruler or whatever he says. And the Ultimate power? Oh, I admit I have ultimate power. Oh, do they hide in the world's biggest closet? Mhmm.

Like another one. Most, like, the most stuffed animals you've ever seen in your life? That closet does connect Elliot and Gertie's room. That's a shared closet. Those before.

And when when I made that connection, I was like, well, I guess I understand now why it's a little bigger. But it it really is, like, super cute. Like, there's scenes where they walk all the way in. There's a window in there. There's shelters.

Just, like, yeah, a 1,000 stuffed animals. Do you need to add additional value and call that a bedroom? What do you is that an office? Nowadays nowadays, one could. I had a 1,000,000 stuffed animals as a child and for no real reason, just terrified of this film.

I always remembered the stuffed animal scene where he's hiding in the stuffed animals, which is not a scary scene, very sweet scene. But that scared me because I was afraid I was gonna, like, look at my stuffed animals and there would be a there would be But then that's that's poltergeist. Right? That's poltergeist. Isn't that like maybe that's misleading the 2.

Yeah. I also saw poltergeist when I was 5. So, you know Wow. So I that's probably not true, but I don't know. Maybe it was.

No. I just I I love it. It's like we're talking about poltergeist and killer clowns and Nightmare on Elm Street and all this stuff. And truly, ET in this bonus room closet witnesses a man grabbing a precious item from a child and being, like, I'm gonna fucking destroy this if you don't do what I want. And the ET is just, like, oh, shit.

You can tell even in that moment, he's, like, oh, don't like that. Poor Gertie is, like, being threatened with, like, death and having her doll ruined and shit if she tells about ET. Yeah. I know. Elliot has to go to school now.

He does. He's gotta go kill a 100 frogs. He's and he has to leave ET home alone. After he's learned about all of ET's powers, healing and floating shit and all this stuff, and then he goes to sleep. And they're going through out of that, bro.

Get to. They're going through, like, the encyclopedia trying to find out where he's from or what species he is and, like, showing them where showing him where they're from, and then he's just like, bro, what they have. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah.

Like, way like, way in the Pacific Ocean. Way out of your club. Boldly California, motherfucker. But, yes, then they have to go to school. Fraud.

And leave VT home alone, and he's gonna get he's gonna turned up he's gonna get turned up. They didn't even give him any phone numbers to contact if there's an emergency. You're ready. Yeah. Yeah.

Get his high. That's irresponsible. It is. I don't like that. Yeah.

I mean, they he doesn't he's gonna go find food and and drink and he's gonna get he's gonna get fucked up. I appreciate it. Drunk is so great. That Go ahead, Adrienne. Yeah.

Well, yes. But I will say I I wrote down a couple of notes. And one thing I wrote down just says, eats potato salad with his tongue? Gross. That is a really gross moment.

He just slowly reaches for some potato salad with his tongue. It just, like, really slowly comes out, and I was like, sick. That's like a gross thing to sound. Is that not how you eat potato salad? You just gotta tickle it with your tongue out of the container.

It looks like a giant old wrinkly potato eat like, cannibalizing. It's awful. There's definitely the thing of ET that he he is a he's very much an eighties monster creation, which was that slightly gooey they're always slightly gooey. Like, they're a little wet. Like, all eighties kind of monsters and aliens are, like, a little wet and a little gooey.

Oh, and Well, the xenomorph xenomorphs are the wettest of all. Xenomorphs are the wettest for sure. They're all goo, but then also there's, like, the very beginning I forgot to say this. When it was, like, the aliens, like, when it was, like, on the ship and stuff, totally reminded me of gremlins also again because, like, those little cones. I don't know.

I was just, like, thinking about all the little like, when they all go into their little egg things. Do you know what I'm talking about? There's just, like there was, like, a scene at the beginning of ET that was, like, lots of little gooey air Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I know you're talking about it. Yes. Tone glowy thing, and stuff. Yeah. I don't know.

It reminded me of. Anyway, it all it all is kind of a disgusting eighties monster thing, but he he does transcend that by being cute because he's sweet. Mhmm. This That's all I was saying. No.

I I agree with you in terms of, like, the plant life and shit like that that's on the ship or whatever it is, and it looking kind of like the eggs from gremlins when they're, in their pupil stage or whatnot. I I feel like that was a parallel I saw as well. And the next piece, like, while Elliott's drunk and ET's drunk, for me, this is, like, part of where the score really sings. But when when ET's, like, wasted and, like, the score's going with his footsteps and, like, feels like fucking, you know, fancy free and whatever. And the the gag with hot d Wallace and Hans Moleman.

This is Moleman in the morning. And them not seeing each other, I love that gag. There's so many Yeah. Behind the fridge and he keeps just, like, just ducking on a side and stuff. Yeah.

The Spielberg it's even in the very first part of the movie where the can, like, rolls down when they, Elliot thinks he's gonna see something or ET and you just see a can rolling down. There's, like, a mild level of humor to it for me. I don't know what it is. I just kinda made this connection and maybe I'm off base, but I think there's some of ET in Wall E, like, in terms of character. Yep.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're very, like, curious and, like, the, Wall E watches films and, like, man or, like, reflects it.

ET is because now when we get this connection with Elliott and it's not just feeling drunk or getting hit in your head or whatever, it's also, like, the emotional state that ET is feeling of watching and, like, want and this love. And so, like, yeah. The frogs get released and chaos ensues and Elliott gets that, iconic kiss and, it's like a reflection of the of the movie that ET is watching, which is so fun. And then, yeah, you're Adrienne, there's like a 1,000 frogs at one point. When they're like walking out of the shot is like someone's feet watching Elliot get dragged away by the person.

Yes. It's like someone off screen had a bucket of frogs and just went like this. Yeah. They did. Shook them out.

So yeah. Mhmm. Those poor it didn't say no frogs were harmed in the filming of this. Oh, no. It didn't say that.

So who knows what happens to those frogs? He even kinda looks like WALL E, doesn't he? Or Wally kinda looks like him. I guess. Eyes and, like, the head movements.

Yeah. And his little Yeah. Round body and his little whatever. Like a it's kinda like a combo of ET and Johnny 5 from short circuit Yeah. A little bit.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. This is when ET gets dressed up and gets his Stanza wig on and the whole thing and is like, I know how to talk now.

I watched Gunsmoke, Price is Right, and part of a skinamax movie. I know it all. I got it. And he starts taking everything apart to build some sort of machine at this point. Genius apparently.

And he pretty clearly explains, I'm building a phone to call my home. I can't hang out here forever, pal. Sorry. Yeah. And he finds a saw.

Where'd he get that saw? Yes. Saw blade. Saw blade. In the shed.

Oh, in the shed. Shed? I like that. So. Yeah.

He pulled Do you think he watched flare from the thing and Do you think he watch he was watching American television and he was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I gotta get Almost certainly. Take me back. From a Donahue?

They have No. Thanks. I mean, he was watching weekday television. He was. Like, hardcore weekday.

This is now finally where it actually feels to me where it makes an impact that the bad guys are still around. Because they've come around 2 or 3 times since the first part of the movie, and it doesn't seem super it's, like, okay. This is the moment where it's, like, the house is being watched where it's, like, oh, now it's, like, escalating. Now I'm worried about this again. Like, okay.

I thought actually, because one of the episodes we also did for this blockbuster, Iron Giant. And so I thought about Iron Giant. I love the Iron Giant. Great movie. Yeah.

Because the impending doom of these government dudes that are all Yeah. Around. Yeah. Yeah. And then he turns into a bunch of guns and starts shooting him.

Exactly the same. In in a perfect ending. Exactly the same. I am a gun. That's in the that's in the 96 laser disc release.

So that's the ending. The Michael Bay cut. Because he just turns into a The Bay cut. I am not ugly. I'm editing that episode for us right now, and I just love that quote.

I'm so glad you said that. Yeah. That's such a good movie. So ET is, like, I'm making this phone and Steven Spielberg, the American Union equivalent of Signor Spilbergo, was the director of this movie. And he is using the device the script is using the device of the flowers so effectively, of the flowers living and dying, coming back and going away in terms of this is also how everybody is doing.

And I guess Spielberg had at a point said, by the way, ET is, like, plant based. He's a plant based audience, and I didn't wanna dig into that. I was wondering what YouTube maybe thought about that. I don't care what Spielberg thinks. I wanna hear from y'all.

He's a plant. Is this a That's I don't understand it. I don't understand it. He's a plant with eyes? What I guess.

Or or or is he or is he vegan? Eyes. Yeah. Maybe he's vegan. Maybe that's a vegan.

Vegan. He's peanut butter. He eats peanut butter. I'm plant based. Oh, I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. I didn't tell I'm I'm I know. Thank you for having me over. I'm I'm I'm plant based. Uh-huh.

Look at that. How's that? That makes sense. I would believe you to just if you said that he doesn't eat meat. But to say I actually would too.

But to say that he's a is a plant. So I guess it depends alien alien plant life form because like Groot. Is Groot a plant? Groot grows in a little pot. Yeah.

Exactly. So, yeah. We don't see ET ET when he's a baby. Maybe he grows out of a plant or a pot. He does.

He smokes a pot. Maybe he smokes pot. We don't I don't like that kind of talk or that kind of subject matter on this podcast and you know that. I don't think he's a plant. I think he's vegan.

I'm gonna go ahead and say he's definitely vegan, and he's looking at all my plants now. And, yeah. Like an FBI like an FBI plant? I thought men, like, you were called a fruit. He was a plant from his planet.

They planted him. Now we all have homework, though, to be like, wait. How? What kind of what kind of plants is this possible? I was just He's a Silver Lake he's a Silver Lake vegan, and we all know it.

He's definitely vegan. That's although he did eat that potato salad. And he ate the Reese's Pieces. Peanut butter. That's not what?

Peanut butter is vegan. Peanut. That's not. Peanut. That's butter.

Some peanut butter is. But not Reese's peanut butter. Peanut butter is vegan, but milk chocolate's not. Thank you. Okay.

Well, that. That's just So there's gotta be some built in Inside Baker Inside Baker info right there. We have an authority here. Yeah. There's not much in peanut butters, mostly peanuts.

Oh, wait. Thank you. I learned the fun fact about the the Reese's Pieces that supposedly and I don't know that I believe all of this. Are you do you know what I'm gonna say? Like, he wanted to use M and M's, and they said and the Mars company said no.

And so they used Reese's instead, and they blew up. And then other companies were like, well, that seems like a great idea. And so it was, like, one of the first, if not the first product placement. There's a lot of product, but there's a lot of brand in that. You see Coors.

You see when he's pulling food out, they all have brand labels, but supposedly Why would the first. Why would you say no? Is that what you're gonna say? Why would you say no? Say no.

Yeah. I don't understand it. And, well, it's like and a completely unrelated note, I did just lease a silver Audi Sedan right after watching this movie. And I don't think it has anything to do with the movie. I'm just say don't blame the movie.

How long is the hang time for the bike fly though? How long are we gonna talk about that? Are we gonna keep that on full hang time? I don't think we should. The first the first bike fly.

You're right. By the by the moon. This is like the iconic for some people, the most iconic image. The ambulance shot. I was totally shocked when I saw that because I was like, is it just me?

I didn't know that there were 2 and I had always completed the 2 because I was like, he's not even wearing a red sweatshirt. What is this scene? Right. But I think I get the last scene, he's wearing a red sweatshirt and he goes in front of the sun. And in this one, he wears a hunchback outfit when he goes in front of the moon.

I thought those were the same thing. So I did that. Oh, yeah. The Halloween outfits. You're not going as a terrorist.

Yeah. Yeah. The ET is the ghost. Yes. And he's a hunchback.

So this is the thing that keeps me from the 5 stars because, Ben, I'm with you. Normally, like, Spielberg villains, I'm on board. And with this movie, I do kind of like the misdirection kind of deal that happens with the villains, but I to a degree, but also it's like Pucci's not on the screen. I'm asking where's Pucci? Like, there's a level of me that's like, I I need a little bit more of this tension that's not involved with, like Elliot's kind of a brat.

He's a little bratty. Yeah. So Elliot's the bat is the bat is this the villain because he's a brat? Is that what you're saying? No.

It's just, like, it seems to be, like, that's supposed to be kinda, like, the driver, like, the crux for the most part. Like, the villains, like, are are very it's, like, a very light amount of pepper. I guess, like, me as a viewer doing the thing I shouldn't be doing. What I wanted to see was more of the villains. Well I I I never felt that Elliot was that awful, but I also we I only got a tiny taste of that.

So What I think, it does really well though, and I, again, gonna reference Stranger Things because I'm in the middle of it. The kids are gonna take the narrative however they are wherever they're gonna take it. And they don't have the full picture. And so, like, the villains, we will learn later that Keyes isn't necessarily, like, trying to kill ET or anything like that. At one point, they're trying to save him.

But we see these villains through the eyes of these of the kid of Elliot. And so, I I understand why we stay with them and we we wanna keep the world in their world and we don't want to see these villains as, like, true people yet. I don't think that reveal has has happened. Well, and they're never, like, fully, like, true villains, I guess, then. Like, the main thing I think I'm supposed to want is for ET to get home more than anything else.

And do they want like, because he's, like, oh, like, at the end when he's he's not dead, he still has to, like, sneak him out to get him back. Or are they just kind of like, well, if he was alive, we would wanna study him? I mean, probably. They would wanna keep him. Yeah.

But it is kind Yeah. I don't know. I mean, like, I agree with you, but also I besides me who was, horrified by this movie as a child, I'd say for most kids, it actually is in a way that, like, that is even though the stakes feel kinda high because he has to get home, there isn't, like, like, no one's trying to kill anyone. That is kind of that's kind of nice. It's a kid's movie.

No. I I agree. Well, one, the the the dude the the guys do have guns, and at one point, in his became walkie talkies. Right? Wasn't there a discussion?

They almost went through and edited the guns out with walkie talkies. Oh, Silliness. Silliness. And also why doesn't anybody say anything to ET when it's like phone's ringing dude. Thank you, guys.

Phone's ringing dude. It's for you. It's for you. That's definitely your phone. It's not my phone.

Then Elliot's like maybe we just should maybe we need to wait. Like maybe it's like Scott Pilgrim. Like are you waiting for the package you just ordered? Like maybe you just need to hold off for a second. They're gonna they're gonna take their they're gonna come back.

Yeah. The search for Elliot is very short. He's back in not too long. Alright, Peter. Oh, yeah.

He just reappears and his mom's been freaking out the whole time. Yeah. She's heated in a different way. It's kinda similar, like, hot in a different way, I should say. The ET puppet, by the way, I know I said this earlier, but that puppet looks sick.

But in this case, like, dying. Well, he is. It's a little different. No. He's Do we learn why he's dying?

I don't think so. That's a good point. I was wondering that too. Like, can well, is it actually out? It's getting there because if he gets better when Elliott says he loves him.

Is that what happened? He's like, I love you, and then he feels better? Like, he's walking away, and he's like, I love you. Yeah. And, like, he suddenly feels a little bit better.

Heart had, like, stopped. Right? Because they thought he he was in a body bag. But if if he just wasn't feeling loved, like, what was what was the thing? What why would Put him in a body bag, Johnny.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess but, I mean, again, their their their communication is maybe this empathy is is their means of communication. Yeah. But Elliot wasn't feeling loved, and so he wasn't feeling loved.

Oh. I think it's Adria, you unlocked it. It has to be like this Somatico? I don't even I don't know. I just there's a level of corniness that's satisfying to the, like, but love cures all, like, yada.

Like, the whole thing is like the alien soul mission is like, I bring you love, and they're like, cut off its legs, and it's like, no. Don't do that. Well, he just What if it was like what if it was like a Sleeping Beauty thing and he had to kiss him all the way through them? Only true love's kiss. Or is it Oh, d whatever.

When they first send in people to, like, take ET, they send in, like, literal astronauts. Oh, I was also gonna say that what the shit? Like, I was like, who am I gonna get that? Why would they use their NASA designed astronauts? They're not going to be because they're terrifying.

I think, like, again, I I like to watch this movie, like, again, like it's through the eyes of Elliott. So maybe they were in hazmat, but they And they were just picturing. So that's kinda what I thought too. I was like, this is a visual. This is clearly a visual.

And whether or not it's someone thinking that's an astronaut or we're just supposed to think, like, it's so bizarre. They're, like, on another planet. They're gonna use I was like I I was literally like, why I think I said out loud. Why would you just use a hazmat? And then the next scene, they were in hazmat suits?

Yeah. Yeah. Walk in, they're in astronaut suits. Did they need, like, something that was so sealed in case of, like, spores or in case they were gonna get probed? Or kinda what's the d what's the idea behind that?

Is I don't and there's a lot of worry from Dee Wallace about a coyote getting in the house through this whole movie, and Peter Coyote just walks right the fuck in and nobody cares, nobody says anything. The coyote's right there. Right there. Adria's dad let him in. Yeah.

Like, I know. We're just cool together. Let him in. Cares. But Keyes is in, and E.

T. Is, like, just, like, fading away. And He is turning away. They kind of my whites. They, they do a good job.

This, like, air bowl around or, like, these tubes and stuff, they make the house feel very alien. Doesn't feel like the house, which I think is a really Yeah. Fun way to make it scarier. Yeah. There's something about the way they I don't know why I thought this exactly, but, like, the house from outside in that cul de sac with all the things around it was it was very Tim Burton y looking to me, actually.

Something kind of just kind of the bizarre juxtaposition of that. No. I see that. Oh, yeah. Like an Edward Scissorhands y kinda Yeah.

Yeah. I yeah. Yeah. Like yeah. The ads from Elliott's free.

He he brings them back to life, and he's gonna free ET. They're on a quest. Yep. They're on another adventure. Right here.

Ouch. I love the first time we get the ouch, and he's like, no. It's a prop knife. Ouch. Hell yeah.

Costume knife. Have you heard this theory, ET, that or you're not ET. You're Adria. Adria, have you heard this theory? I know.

What an odd thing to say. Is from the Star Wars universe? Because he he his race There sure are a whole lot of Star Wars references in that movie. And he follows he sees Yoda and starts to follow him. Like, he knows him.

And there is in episode I wanna say 3 2 or 3 in the senate scenes, one of the, species in one of the alien gods is the ET species. Really? It's true. Lucas went full and put ET in it in the background. Really?

Which obviously was like an homage to this, and Spielberg was just giving him, Lucas, some love with, like, the love of Star Wars. And peep nerds have taken it and run with it because they're fucking idiots. But it's a fun idea to think about. Right? It's so fun.

Moving on. Okay. Well, I can see that. Sure. I stand corrected.

There is a good character in the Star Wars universe. Hoop what the fuck don'ts? That's a terrible thing to say. So ET ET is dead. He's dead.

Like, they're talking to each other. People are super impressed by ET and Elliot's fucking dynamic and the whole deal. And ET is giving ET CPR in the background. I love it. I love it.

It's hilarious looking. I was like, how do you know he has a heart? I know Yeah. How do you know he's an alien play. He might have a he has a That's an artichoke, man.

That's an artichoke in here. That other thing's the banana down there. I I love that, like, ET, like, just detaches. Like, consciously detaches from Elliot because it seems like he's like, if I die, he's gonna die, and it's just gonna be me. Like, I'm I'm not taking the kid and consciously takes his own life.

And I did almost give this movie 4 and a half hula Lewis', but I can't in case we do Borat because in my head, all I could hear was, that's the power of love. Did you say Borat, or you mean Back to the Future? Nope. Borat because the name of Borat's eldest son is Huilhuis. Oh, you meant because Back to the Future because that song was made for Back to the Future.

Right? It sure was, but it's a Huey Lewis song. I know. Can't do Khulus if it's not Borat because that's specifically Borat. Kolos.

Did you know I've read I've read one thing. I read that, the voice of that the sound designer was in a camera store and came across a lady with a with a very gravelly voice that he wanted to be the voice of ET, and that is who voiced her or voiced him, and she smoked, like, 2 packs a day, which I said it like that. Oh, because of BT. I didn't mean to. That's an exact exactly like That's a hot lady.

That hypocrite smoked 2 packs a day. I think that's Yeah. That's why I came out in that order. A day. But, apparently, she was just some lady.

And, actually, I sound a lot more like myself right now than I did earlier today because I have a cold and I had almost no voice. And I was like, maybe I should go stand in a camera store and see if anyone picks me up sort of creature because that's how I sound. I feel like I sound like right now. Well, when you said when you text me, you said you sound froggy. And I was like, yeah.

You sound like a frog that got released from a lab. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Fuck you. He didn't say that. Yeah. Like, I got it. I said that.

I texted it. I didn't say that. What a guy. He was like, from the movie. When all these neighborhood boys band together and get in this chase scene where they steal the van and those guys are trapped in the tube and shit, and they literally become, like, the bike gang from the the bike gang from Stranger Things copied this, but whatever.

It's the same difference. I just get like, when they go fucking Blue Angels, the whole gang across the sun because ET makes them fly after he comes back or what I it's great. It's all great. I also love that those guys were just kinda d bags and then like given a moment to fight authority, they're like, fuck yeah. Let's go.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We just click around, they're like, okay. I love that.

I I got the feeling that they were all pretty okay when they're like, alright, Elliot. Get us a pizza and you can hang out. Like, they're shitty teenagers, but they're not, like, shitty people. So it was cool that they were like, no. We're gonna fucking help dude out.

Like, fuck these guy. I do love that it's like a stance against authority. It's great. And adults. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Adults suck. I did notice this time when they showed us the bike riders, I'm like, oh, those aren't those aren't kids. Those people riding those bikes when they those are stuff people.

BMX biker. Yeah. They'll, like, sign in exactly at the same time. Yeah. Definitely not those nerdy little actor kids.

But they're, like, riding through a cons like, another suburbs that's gonna under construction. The poltergeist neighborhood. Lots of lots of mounds. Lots of BMX mounds to jump. But yeah, they're gonna go full flying over, over sunset and E.

T. Gotta get the fuck home. And Yeah. Yeah. I'm home.

Yeah. He's been calling, he's missed so many calls. He needs to get home. He is dying. He's He needs a voice mail.

He doesn't have a voice mail set up. How do you how would you then how would you make a voice mail with a saw? Okay. How would you do that? With a saw?

Heart heart heart heart. Saw. A saw light. Okay. Well, I'm glad you both knew how to do that.

Wow. I could both do the exact same thing. Wow. Wow. You've never seen a side you know that?

Crazy. How long have you known Ben? Do you know Ben? Ben? Yeah.

Oh, wow. Okay. 8 years. Wait. 9 years.

I don't know. So longer than that. About 6 years ago, if you've seen the movie army of darkness, I actually just split off from Ben and became my own evil person. Oh. Pretty cool.

What summer was king what summer was king Arthur? 20 14. Time what summer would you you know. You know. What's other I don't know.

I don't know. That was one of my first yeah. To to of 2010. I I legitimately yeah. I think it might have been 2010.

Probably. I think that's not Yeah. Probably. The Antoine's Claw. Ben and I put brother and brother and sister.

You know, oh, Ben, you know what we should have done? Because I used to always say, well, we don't look like brother and sister, but we do look like do you remember who I always said? Bill and Ted. Bill and Ted. I was like, we should yeah.

I would still look like We'll end this movie now as it is ending. Peter Coyote's out of the house where he belongs in the wilderness with the family. They're all sending ET off as the homies come to get him. The moment when the platform raises and you see ET's shadow, that's the image that is burned in my brain. Even more than the moon, more than any of that shit.

I mean, maybe because some of the spacecraft stuff or moon stuff, it's, like, green screen whatever. There's such a confidence in just staying on that shot of this obscured figure that just feels like, I don't know, just dropping the balls on the table and being, like, I'm good. I know what I did. I'm good. And you just hope you don't get hit by a football or a podcast.

Whatever. The emotional gravity though of Elliot saying goodbye to I feel it. He's so good at that. I'll be right here is I yeah. It's so strong.

And I like how the movie just kinda ends. Like, when l when when we don't need, like, a 1 year later or something like Elliot's confident and the family's happy or some bullshit. Like we don't need that because it just makes sense how the movie ends. I really appreciate it. His mom's still single, you know?

Still? That's the part that I'm right now? What? Well, probably. I mean, if you didn't say it in the movie, then probably.

Paul's gone. I remembered I'm I'm married. I can't do I I there's nothing I just remembered. I'm married. I, Andrea, I wanna double check.

Is there anything we left out? Anything you wanna talk about? Quick hits, whatever. Yeah. Any moments that we didn't touch on that you wanna bring up?

I think so. I think we pretty much we pretty much got it. Yeah. Yeah. Ben.

We're here. We're here. Yeah. You know, I I think we all I this is it's one of those movies where it's like I knew once we broke the Spielberg dam, which we did with minority report, I had a feeling that they were gonna start coming. And this isn't this isn't my favorite Spielberg, As we all know, in this entire universe, my favorite is Raiders of the Lost Ark.

But it is a very, very, very, very, very good movie, and it is a cornerstone in cinema, and it just is such an important obviously, if you haven't seen this movie, I don't know why you're listening to this podcast right now. Okay. So I'm gonna stick out I'm gonna stick out with my my 4 and a half, peanut butter M and M's, and I'll probably rewatch this movie again in a couple years. Adria, I popcorn to you. Okay.

Well, I hadn't I I barely had seen this movie and Jess had never seen it. So watch what you say about people who who haven't really seen this movie. But I will say, but why would they be listening to the podcast? I guess I understand. But anyway, maybe because it's the star power I'm bringing.

That's probably why. Oh, yeah. That's probably true. All of your influenced people. Yeah.

Guaranteed. Yeah. They're like, oh, I saw that show at the Seattle Children's Theater. I I'm it was definitely less scary than when I was 5, so that was a positive. It's also not my favorite Spielberg, which is Jurassic Park.

My favorite, maybe. Nice to Killer Klowns, but, but it's and I do I still think if I grew up with it, like, if I had it on VHS and I watched it a lot, then it would have been I the movie I wore out from VHS was never ending story. I watched that so much. Oh, you're made of tougher stuff than me. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it's rough. But, you know, anyway yeah. I'm gonna stick with 4. I think it was really it was great. It was great, and it was so iconically eighties.

You know? I think of when I think of eighties, I I always go to Lagoonies and I go to Stand by Me, and there's a lot of and this is you know, it lives right in there, so I'm glad to have revisited it for me. I'm gonna be the one. I am gonna go to 4 Speakin' spells. I felt like a little bit of the delicious cream corn.

I couldn't eat as much as I used to. And this is the thing that's, like, tough for me. I think a lot of the stuff that has come after it has almost diluted it for me, and it's a me problem to a degree because there's nothing wrong with the fucking movie. But I don't know how eager I'll be to watch this again. I'm almost sure that I will.

It deserves every accolade it's gotten. It deserved every fucking penny it made and more. It's a brilliant movie. I'm gonna stick at 4 speak and spells. There are just certain little things, like, that we went over that I don't know.

I don't want all the backstory all the time, etcetera, etcetera. I didn't cry. I guess that's the last thing I'll say. I came close, but I I wasn't I wasn't quite there. Iron Giant, I cried.

I guess. Hey. I know that was a fact. As full, I guess. But Strong men also cry.

Would would you ever play a would you ever play a video game of this? Oh, yeah. I can help you find a copy. You wanna come to the desert if you wanna come to the desert with me. Yeah.

Yeah. Let's go on a quest. Let's make a movie, a documentary quest where we go try to find the hole where all of the ET video games are buried. I'm gonna delete all the part where you say where all of the ET video games are buried. Just go find a hole?

So our 3 Adria. Adria, before we before we go, is there, anywhere anyone can follow you or anything that you're working on or anything you wanna tell these people who are listening to this program? Oh, gosh. I'm not doing anything. My Instagram is it's a me, Adria.

That's funny because my brother's name is Mario. I find that important to say. That's my Instagram. I have a sketch group, a virtual sketch group called, better on paper, because we all live in different places, so that's why it's virtual. And I have a dance group called BFFervescence, which no one can say or spell.

It's also on Instagram. We do covers of nineties dance, nineties girl group dance. That's what we do. Nineties. Yeah.

That's what we do. Oh, we haven't done one in a while because one person yeah. One of them just had a baby, but eventually, we will. So that's that's what I have. That's what I have.

I like the name and the idea of Befervescence. See? Yeah. That's what people do. Befervescence?

B f f. We're B f f's, and we're effervescent. So we're BFFervescent. BFFervescent. Got it.

That's it. That's it. Effervescent. Uh-huh. Paul, back to you.

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Thank you for being bringing this movie. You are delightful. Come back anytime. Thanks for having me, guys. Thanks for putting a fear of mine to rest, which was You did it for yourself.

We were just there to help. Adria. Alright. Don't have a plumber summary, y'all. Well See you soon.

Bye, guys. Thank you.