YCR 5 - Back To The Future / 'Uncle Bob,' huh?

Today, we wrap up “Ben’s Blockbuster Bonanza Summer,” with THE BIG ONE. ‘Back to the Future,’ (Dir. Robert “Uncle Bob” Zemeckis) Starring - Michael J. Fox, Lea Thompson, and Crispin Glover. It turns out these bastards can’t do 90, as we burn back to 1955 SANS GUEST (?!) to dissect the rules of familial boundaries after time travel, time travel movies, and how AMC has made a very personal, and very powerful enemy. Follow us on Instagram! - @reviewx2podcast

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
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"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

At a sporting event in the northwest, it normally has a tendency, I think, to be, like, pretty polite and safe. But a parking lot in the northwest Park. Woah. It's Mad Max out there. Fuck Yeah.

Box. Yeah. Hey.  we're here.  we're back.

we're the review review. I am a host of this podcast. My name is Ben. I am a host of this podcast. My name is Paul.

And if you're just tuning in for the first time, welcome. This is a movie podcast. You've tuned into a podcast where we usually have a guest. Tonight, we are our own guests. And, that guest brings a movie to us with a couple of guidelines that we bend or break at our own will because fuck you.

We can't. They are usually around 70 yeah. We can do whatever we want, really. So we create the guidelines. We can get the guidelines out of here if we want.

But, basically, we want we want a movie that's a little over 7 or 8 years old at this point. Something that's not the middle or end of a major franchise. Basically, we don't wanna do extra homework and watch and see a bunch of TV shows and other movies to understand a movie. And, yeah. We wanna we want you to bring it.

We wanna revisit it. We want you to revisit it. Rewatch it. Come to us. We'll chat, and then, we'll see if our opinions have altered throughout time.

And time will be a major theme of this evening because it is Yes. It is. Are we ending Ben's big blockbuster Bonanza summer? Is this the is this it? This is gonna be it.

We're gonna drop this at the very, very end of August. Yeah. And we're gonna move into Matt's month, the month of September, the dumping ground for the box office and and releases in general. September, it'll be Matt's month. Matt Foskett, I love call it the dump the dumpy month.

There you go. But tonight, for the end of Ben's big blockbuster Bonanza summer, b b b b b, we're going back to the future, baby. Oh, and how apropos this was a you choose the review. This was a poll. This beat out Terminator 2 because this almost became That's great.

The scorching Schwarzenegger summer. Because I must You almost stole it. I'm palsy. So we were able to retain it. I smoked my coffee.

Thank you, everybody. We even got a big I don't know if you'll find out the to the future. That's right. This is going to be episode 222. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2.

And today is the 22nd. So happy day, Ben. Stop. Oh, wow. What?

You planned that, didn't you? I didn't. I didn't at all. I really hoped that last action hero was gonna be 222, but no. And this was your idea that we'd finish this out with a poll.

So did you plan this, mister Illuminati? Don't fuck. It's funny when we put up because it was t 2, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, and Animal House, which just got Did you lose it? Which I get up against those sort of, like, stalwarts of the summer. But people forget how big Animal House was in its time because Mhmm.

It was mighty. But here we are. And before we go back to the future Right. We have to talk about the past. What you've been doing?

Well, Ben, aside from big remodeling, redecorating projects that have been just consuming my entire existence, which we've talked about a bit. Somehow, my back has mostly held up. It's a miracle, an absolute miracle, provided to you by Biofreeze. So thank you, Biofreeze. You can't they can't sponsor this episode because that's a real product.

And aside aside from that, I have been catching up on editing this podcast. There are several of these in the can. I've cut it close on a couple of the more recent releases. I gotta step my game up. So I'm getting ahead for Matt's month.

I wanna make sure I can get Matt's month done as quickly as possible. And, you know, the 1st week or week and a half of August, that clump, weird and and difficult. It was rough. And the last week or week and a half has been a lot better. Ben.

That's good. How about you? Yeah. A lot's happened since we've spoke last. I, I'm gonna go through each thing very quickly.

Drove up to Washington State. I went to my 20 year reunion. I went to Leavenworth. That's crazy. You're 17 years old.

Wait. That's me. I don't know. You're 17. No.

7 d. 7 d. Well, listen oh, listen here, dad. Dad. Dad.

Daddy o. That was good. So I went to Leavenworth, and there was where I got, for the first time in my life, something I, I thought that I might get at some point. I just didn't really know when, and it was a little thing that we call COVID. Of all the places on earth.

Yeah. Right. What? My only guess is I got it at my 20 year reunion. Could potentially be a big super spread event.

Shaking hands, eating food, whatever. Yep. So because of that, we postponed the filming of my short film, Roughways, which was supposed to shoot a couple weeks ago, and that's okay. So we postponed that. We're gonna push it, and we will shoot it.

For people out there, keep following us. We will update everybody at, Roughways Film on Instagram. And then, let's see. My cat, got arthritis. I drove back here, and I went to the Mariners game where they lost to the Dodgers and then fired their general manager.

Woah. Woah. Manager. Jerry Deposa is still there. Manager.

Manager. Yeah. You're you're right. Yeah. Is I have to ask, is it weird that the first thing I thought of when you said, Rudy, my Ava arthritis was, the bones are their money.

The money is their bones. You're asking me if it's weird that you thought of that? Yeah. Yeah. No.

It's weird. I just wanna give him money and or bones. Right now, he's a little drugged kitty, and he's just so relaxed and snoozing. So If I he is in the room with us tonight. He's here in here.

So Whether or not he's participating, you'd swear that he is as you're listening to this. Now we're at Matt's favorite segment, I think. Please, Scott. Mine for this show. What you been watching?

Should I should I tell you what I've been watching? Is that a trend? That's usually what I've been watching. I yeah. Okay.

That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Not necessarily outside of the spirit of this program. I just didn't really wanna wait for someone to bring it. I'd been waiting.

Boy, did I have a great time watching most of it, all of it. Pretty Woman with, Dick Shifter and, Jules Bobbs. Like a Bobb. 1st viewing? Beautiful, Beautiful Lady.

No? No. Pretty Woman. No. I've seen it a few times.

You I love a romcom. I think I don't know if that's out there on the pod, but I love a fucking romcom. Wow. It's it holds up. It's bulletproof.

It's really pretty great. Again, just had the greatest time watching it. And outside of anything, the casting and the chemistry and the charm of all of it and themes that carry over that are forever. And Garry Marshall is a director. The picture that's painted with not only main characters and story and keeping things light and keeping things moving, Ancillary characters that don't say a word have moments consistently, and it's so engaging watching this movie for, like, a I'm sure I've probably seen it 4 or 5 times now in my life.

And I'm just, like, wow. There are things that are, like, fresh or that I haven't noticed that are funny, that are interesting, and so on. And so it's just it was pretty bulletproof. I really, really enjoyed it. I get why Runaway Bride and whatever the fuck happened.

I get it. I get it, America. It's been a while since I've seen that why that movie. I feel like you know? I think I'll I remember watching it in Parent's House.

I don't know if I've seen it since, to be honest, but I I I loved it when I was even when I was, like, I don't know, 15, 14. Solid. Solid, man. I had COVID, so I was watching a lot of things. Mhmm.

Sometimes just, like, randomly. Because I was at my parents' house, and they had cable. And for there's a weird thing that happens to me when cable is available where I just, like, could gravitate to, like, an FX or a TNT or something to see what movies are playing just to, like, put it on. And it's almost like it's more of a background thing than anything, but I just I did binge 2 series crazy. One of them being maybe reindeer.

All the way through. Heard of oh, yeah. I just I just mainlined it. I've heard of it. Have you seen it?

No. I've had a few people say, like, Paul, you absolutely have to watch this show. And a couple people told me some context, and I was like, when I'm ready. My biggest thing after finishing it was the people who told me I had to watch it, I was so mad they didn't fight harder to make me watch it. But I'm glad I watched it in my own time.

I was also waiting for Jess to watch it because we both wanted to, and then when I was 6, she was like, just go for it. I was like, sweet. And then I just tapped into the vein and let it let it rip. Okay. Stick it to my vein.

And it's fucking unique as shit. Like, there's just nothing like it. And it's vulnerable, and it just kinda cracks you open in a way that I don't think I expected. And, yeah, there's some dark triggering shit in there, so I understand wanting to be ready. It, yeah.

I highly recommend to anybody listening to this. If you have not watched baby reindeer 2, fucking do it as soon as you can. And then just because, I don't just watch very well written original television series. Oh, good. I watched all of this all the new season of Top Chef.

Oh, nice. One of the only reality shows that I watch, and I have been watching it for, like, 20 years, and I love it. But this season wasn't great. It was set in Wisconsin, and it just kinda was it was meh. I, Yeah.

Too much cheese based food, and worst based, bratwurst, bockwurst. I need to catch up on my 90 day, baby. You know I loves my 90 day fiance. I love some stores. I know you do.

Love that shit. I'm behind. The last season before Wisconsin was the World All Stars set in London. And so kinda oh, and also Padme is gone. Right.

The host, Padme, who I just have a huge crush on. So Kristen who took over for is good, but no one can replace Pat May in my heart. Understandable. I would have bet money, hard currency that you would have come in here full 6 to midnight for Alien Romulus in this segment of this program. I was sure of it.

I mean, I saw Alien Romulus. It's Paul and I have talked off off mic off mic about this. It's a 3 and a half completely. It was a text. Yeah.

Not even on the microphone of a telephone. Like, for me, it's a 3 and a half alien movie, and I think the review that I and this is non spoilers for folks who haven't seen it because it just came out. The review that I relate to the most is the parts of the movie that feel like a stand alone alien movie are pretty fucking awesome. The parts of the movie that feel like an alien legacy movie are pretty fucking stupid. I kinda sit somewhere in that ballpark.

But I do think if people are alien fans, it's worse seen in the theater and it I saw it in Dolby and it was like Say it. What a sound what what are just purely, like, the sound and the visuals are just just fucking great in the cinema. He is such a solid director in terms of just visual storytelling and unease and tension and Mhmm. He does a great job with that. Evil Dead, Don't Breathe, and this saw all 3 in the theater, all 3 in terms of the look and the audio and the mastering and the the experience, especially the movie theater experience of all 3 of those movies, is absolutely fantastic.

Unquestionably fantastic. I love we're zooming through this literally. If you haven't built a tilt by the audio quality, we are in the same room. I'm in the Stoods. And get out of here.

Get out of here. Like a tree and leaf. Sound like a damn fool when you say it like that. I'm in the Stoods, but Paul is not in the Stoods. And so we are on the Zooms.

Zoom Stoods. Battle Ground, Washington sitting outside of the public library. That's and it actually says library outside, which is crazy. And, I'm getting Public education is not good there. One bar of Wi Fi hanging on.

We're making it though. We're doing it. Ben, let's talk it out. We gotta do it. I am ready.

I we're gonna talk about this. Fuck. Archaeology is the search for facts. I, I'll I'll tell you this for free. Give me the facts.

Oh, okay. The movie we watched was Back to the Future. If I read from the sheet it's from Ambling Entertainment, Amblin Entertainment and Universal. It's great. I like to think I like to think Amblin Entertainment is just like a really lackadaisical, nobody has any idea of what to do set.

They show up and everyone just kinda wander around, like, oh, are we gonna shoot? It's, like, yeah, eventually. Yeah. Well, grab some coffee. It takes your time.

Amblin Entertainment. Ambling around. Why not? It's rated PG. It was released in 1985.

It is 1 hour and 56 minutes. The budget on this film was $19,000,000. Ben, episode 2 22. Yeah. It's the 22nd.

Adjusted. This is $55,500,000. A budget that no movies 55. A budget that no movies get done for anymore. I get, like, either a movie is It's true.

15 or less or, like, a 100 or more. That's where we exist. They were originally supposed to be at, like, a 30,000,000, and they were requested to pull it down before production started. Well, started or restarted. It's the first time.

Oh, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Opening weekend, July 3, 1985. Bullish.

Bullish. Yes. And the opening weekend, $11,100,000. Oh my goodness. We've already had 2 of these in the budget.

That's $32,400,000 adjusted. Final gross in North America is 214. Adjusted, that is 626,000,000. Final gross worldwide, $385,000,000 adjusted. Oh, baby.

That's now I did I rounded properly. I wanted to do my little thing. 1.12 $1,000,000,000. Right, Scott. Other pieces on this day, the Emerald Forest, weekend top 5.

This film, tail rider, Rambo, first blood part 2, cocoon, the emerald forest. Top 5 films this year. Good job for the emerald forest, I guess. Yeah. Also, how is Rambo's second blood not what they would go with?

I think okay. I have I I should probably just, like, let's make a joke here. I think the character ran like, superseded the popularity of the name of the character just went so far past because that first movie is called First Blood. And Yeah. So many people just go Rambo Rambo 1, whatever.

And by the third one, it's just called Rambo 3. It's just completely changed. But, I mean, like, 2nd blood is right there. Yeah. That's they weren't thinking like that.

It was like bad boys for life, bad boys ride or die. It's the 3rd movie. Yeah. Why? Bad boys for life is the 3rd I don't know.

Missed missed opportunities. Top 5 films this year. Wouldn't you know it, this movie. Oh, wow. 2nd Blood, Rambo part 2.

Blood in, Blood out. Beverly Hills Cop, which actually released Christmas of 84. Rocky 4 and Cocoon. Other films from 1985, The Goonies, Mask starring Eric Stoltz and Cher Yes. The mom, Jagged Edge, Teen Wolf starring Michael j Fox, Fright Night to Live and Die in LA, Witness Get off my plane.

Silverado out of Africa, and a little movie called Real Genius. You're like, good times and noodle salad. Inevitably talk about This is a solid year. Very. That's some really unique it's weird now to get something like, an eclectic unique group of movies to hit like this that aren't part of some franchise or IP anymore.

That list is wild. I'm glad that you pointed that out. That list is wild. And most of those movies are I'm I said most. I'm sorry.

All of those movies are good watchable, past watchable, whatever. Letterboxd average on this film is 4.2. Ben, I wanna follow you on Letterboxd. You should. It's at run b m c.

How how can I follow you? It's at Paul x badly. Oh, okay. Join join us. Join us.

Oh, also, if you join us, you should tell, like, 3 people. If you're listening to this show right now, and you're like, god, I like these guys. I really, really love this podcast. You should just just literally send it to 3 people you know. Right now, pause the podcast, take the link, and just send it to 3 of your friends and be like, hey.

You like movies. Check out this podcast. Do it. Do it. If you link the Instagram in your post about this podcast Yes.

I'll I'll share it. I'll share it. I would love to share it. There you go. Rate it 5 stars.

It's pretty really not bad. Have you listened to many podcasts? This is not bad. Sysco Bieber gave this podcast posthumously 2 thumbs up as well as this movie despite my disparaging comments on our past episode. Rotten Tomatoes Don't look it up.

They they definitely did that. Don't look it up. They did it. Don't worry about it. Just ask.

Paul went back in time and made them do it. It's the power of love, man. Rotten Tomatoes, 93%. Medicritic, 88. Miles per hour, great Scott.

What a joke to not quite land. Major award wins and nominations, there were many, many, many, many. Most biggest, most popular, most known, this was nominated for 4 Oscars, including winning the Oscar for special effects. Ben, talk about people. The director of this movie is Robert Zemeckis, known by his friends as Bob Zemeckis.

Bobby. Hey. Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob. Good.

Uncle Bob. Cast Away Death Becomes Her. Writers, also Bob Zemeckis, Welcome to Marwen, and Bob Gale. Trespass, Tales from the Crypt presents Bordeaux of Blood. And Bob Gale and Bob Zemeckis went to school together at Yep.

USC. Director of photography, the great Dean Cundy about Apollo 13, the spy next door, Looney Tunes back in action starring Corniche's favorite son, Bernie Fraser. Music, the great Alan Silvestri, Forrest Gump, the Polar Express, and Avengers Endgame. I feel like Silvestri gave finally gave us that Avengers theme. Right?

Because he did the first Avengers 2. Is that correct? So. I believe so. Because we didn't really have any themes in the Marvel Universe until he came in and created that iconic one.

Producers, Kathleen Kennedy, Congo Oh. Frank Marshall, Congo Oh. And Steven Spielberg, safe and private Ryan. Bad soldiers. Bad Nazis.

Racist. The worst kind of Nazis. The worst kind of Nazis. Michael j Fox eventually played Marty McFly, The Frighteners, The Hard Way, Atlantis, The Lost Empire. On this promo.

Listen listen to that episode. Christopher Lloyd plays Doc Brown, Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Someone bring it, will you? Please? Please, God, bring that movie.

Yeah. Suburban Commando. Please god, bring that movie. The Addams Family, 1991. Ben, I wanna get sued by Terry Hulk Hogan so badly because I am gonna drag him about Suburban Commando.

I I'm still baffled that Hemsworth signed up to do that because they're doing a Hulk Hogan bio flick, and I'd like It got scrapped today. It's got did it really? Yeah. It got scrapped today because I've they're mostly apparently because they were worried about Hogan, like like, litigation, like, him, like, lashing out. Oh my god.

I I was literally I had no idea, but thank god because that man is an absolute psychopath. I And we can't I assume that they would probably paint a picture of him that is not very glowing. I assume that that's what they intended to do. Yeah. I hope.

Dude, Rowdy Roddy Piper was ready to unionize wrestling, and Hoke Hogan Hoke Hogan is no A scab? I'm not you know, I watched The Replacements not that long ago, and that movie was fun. Ben, carry on. Could be called the scabs. I mean, true.

Leah Thompson, plays Lorraine, Left Behind 2014, Dennis and Menace from 1993, and Howard the Duck. Banger. Crispin Glover Crispin Glover plays George McFly, Willard, Hot Tub Time Machine, Friday 13th, the final chapter. We should watch that one. Christopher Glover, dance party.

Yes. Right. And your density. Apparently, he was a a nightmare on this shoot. Yeah.

And a nightmare of a human. Tom Wilson plays Biff, the heat 2013, the informant exclamation point, and blood in, blood out. Claudia Wells plays Jennifer for a movie. Still walls, still Walter, still waters burn. Alien Armageddon, not anything to do with the Ridley Scott movie.

Or Michael Bay movie. Or Michael Bay movie. Or Michael Bay movie. Yeah. Starship Rising.

What a confusing title to name your movie Alien Armageddon. I think that's intentional too. Like, you had those people at Hollywood Video. Right? That were like, oh, transmorphers.

Yes. Well, yeah. Those were, that was, asylum. Yeah. That was asylum that did all because they were like, yeah.

We'll get all of the dipshits. Exactly. All those alien Armageddon James shits. I'm I wonder what alien I wonder what it is now. Now I'm now I'm very curious.

I had to tell somebody because I told them I saw alien Romulus, and they were like, oh, how was it? And telling about, like, all the things I liked and didn't like without spoiling it. And they were like, oh, it's like in the alien universe, like like the original alien movie. I'm like, yeah. And they were like, I just thought that was a bad I just thought they had a bad title.

Why didn't they just call it 1? I'm like, oh, yeah. No. That's also, I forgot to mention this. When I was there, they have the poster with, like, the face hugger on the girl's head, and some teenager walked up to the poster I was standing next to it, and she just looks at it and goes, hey.

They ripped off Stranger Things. And it No. It, like Oh. And I was, like, just staring, and then they walked away. And I didn't do anything about it.

And I came back and just came out of the bathroom, and I was like, I I don't have Good for you for letting it go. Yeah. Grab their face and go, don't ever see that. Don't ever see you don't understand. Stay here.

James Tolkien plays Strickland, master of the universe, top gun, war games. Now, Paul, tell us some fun facts. Fun facts. Fun facts, everybody. It's fun fact time.

You 2 couple of hotshot fuckers are going to Top Gun. I don't remember his line, but love it. So writers, Bob Gale and Bob Zemeckis, Bob x 2, b x 2 Michael Bob. And their families own the rights to this property indefinitely. It is unlikely there will ever be a reboot, restart, retelling, or any sequels in the franchise.

I love that. Automaker John DeLorean wrote a personal letter to the filmmakers thanking them for immortalizing his car, And the story of that company is pretty fascinating. The script largely considered one of the greatest of all time was rejected 44 times before being greenlit. The script is actually currently used still at the film school at USC as an example of the perfect script. The Burger King and Toys R Us' that can be seen in the beginning of the movie and many other corporate logos, names, and etcetera, not all of them.

I think we could probably assume, like, Pepsi and Miller, maybe, who's to say, were confirmed to not be product placement. Director Robert Zemeckis was quoted that all those places just happened to be there while we were filming. Like And you know that Burger King that's up on, is it Magnolia? No. It's not Magnolia.

Poop It's poopy's up on the strip? Yeah. No. You know the you know where the Hobby Lobby is? Yeah.

Where the Baskin Robbins? Yeah. It's that street. Oh, yeah. That's the street that they're that they're filming on.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I do know where that is. That's funny. Yeah.

Oh, Los Angeles. Okay. This is pretty widely known. Actor Eric Stolz from Some Kind of Wonderful Pulp Fiction and the aforementioned Mask was famously replaced with Michael J Fox after over a full month of filming. During his time on the film being a method actor, mister Stoltz refused to answer to any name other than Marty or Marty McFly.

When Christopher Lloyd, who played Doc Brown, was told that Stoltz was to be replaced, he asked, who's Eric? And further explanation was added, and he said, oh, I really thought his name was Marty. Furthermore, Tom Wilson, who played Biff, almost had his collarbone broken in the scene where Marty and Biff are about to fight in the cafeteria. Estolz roughed up Tom for real take after take despite repeated requests from Tom to tone down the aggression. Tom later said he was about to return the favor during filming of the, car park scene outside of the dance, but Eric was fired before the confrontation could take place.

Oh, so sad. Too bad. Womp womp. That would have been we've all probably seen clips, and it is weird because he does he looks out he looks out of place. And I it might be a thing where we're, like, we're all just accustomed to seeing Michael J Fox in that movie, and it and that's why it looks out of place, but he just seems, like, really un like, the miscast.

It's crazy, because that just doesn't happen, to, like, stop filming and go back and get all this shit. That's a nightmare to do that. But To redo clumps of 5 weeks of filming, that's Yeah. That's wild. I have a couple more fun facts.

Please. They also that's did you know that original the title that Sid Sheinberg wanted for this was the spaceman from Pluto? Yeah. And because he didn't like the title Back to the Future. Spielberg being a producer, the Bobs went to Spielberg and were like, we can't count color movie.

That's the spaceman from Pluto. And Spielberg's way of solving it was just sending shit Sid Sheinberg, like, a memo that said, like, funny joke. We all laughed a lot. Thanks, Sid. And that was it.

So good. But, yeah, this movie was in, like, crazy the bomb, the bombs were not doing well box office wise No. For a long time. They just kept having misses, and then it was really what was Zemeckis' oh, Romancing the Stone. Romancing the Stone.

Really changed it for him. Side note, that movie does rule. Like, there there are some not so great Indiana Jonesy kind of inspired or whatever, like, knockoffs that are not great. Alan Quartermaine stuff that was producer on that top, Firewalker with Chuck Norris. This movie in particular, romancing the stone, is clearly made by, like, people who give a shit, actors who are super tuned in, great sets, fun story, and, like, really, really fun action set pieces.

Yeah. That's one of my fun facts that I wanted to share. Maybe some more will come out as we talk. I have a feeling that they will come to a decision. This episode is brought to you by TGRI, by the way.

The people who made the goo that made the turtles. Where that goo comes to a decision from, I don't know, or it comes from in general. I don't know. I don't think it comes from the Libyans, though. Right?

No. I if anything, it may have been liberated from them, stolen from them. Liberated from them. How? We don't know.

Liberated from the Libyans. Yeah. Liberated from them manually or I don't know. I don't know. We have to try to guess the log line of this movie.

Do you want me to give it a go? Give it a shot. First. I think we both take a stab. I can Let me let me give it a shot.

I'll go yeah. You can go first too. Yeah. Teenager Marty McFly ends up going back to 1955 in a DeLorean time machine only to accidentally disrupt the meeting of his parents. And with the help of doc Emmett Brown, he must reunite his parents and get back to the future.

That's good. That's pretty good. That's like the core problem of the It's it's not quite a VHS jacket back. It's not quite a log line. It's somewhere in between.

I like it. A teenager is thrust back in time and must make his horny mom and pervert dad get it on, or him and his, people, good luck. Probably not gonna happen for you. So the actual online of this movie, Marty McFly, a 17 year old high school student, is accidentally sent 30 years into the past in a time traveling DeLorean invented by his closest I knew they were gonna mention that. The maverick scientist, Doc Brown.

They met you've gotta mention the DeLorean specifically. I agree with you. Okay. This episode is brought to you by the good folks at TGRI. What's coming?

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Ben, I don't know if you have it handy. This is a head to head. We don't do this a lot. But we know what it's time for. Would you like some of these?

You Mhmm. They're so good. And peanut buttery. Ben is showing me a very large bag of peanut butter M and M's, something that I have told him many times that AMC Theatres has made a personal enemy that they stopped carrying them because I like to eat a single bag through an entire movie. I do it expertly, and you took that away from me.

Dear mister AMC, I am livid. I am standing in your lobby, and I noticed you still hold Lisa's Pieces, but you do not have anybody M and M's. Bob is I will con I will continue to be here. You will continue to get my business, but I am very I can't buy it. Monthly subscription money.

It is fine. K. So, Ben, it's heads up. My birthday popcorn. Yeah.

Head to head. Head to head cinephile. Woof. I think, you're sitting there. You should like 2 You should get the freebie.

We're almost, like, 2 Bobs here. You know? Uncle Bob, Bob and Bob. Alright. Okay.

What's the what's the over under of it being another b? What do you think? You think it's gonna be 30% chance it's a b. I'm gonna take the under. Oh, it is David Bowie.

Oh, okay. That counts. That counts. What's the freebie? Yeah.

It definitely counts. The freebie is The Man Who Fell TO Earth. Zoolander. The Prestige. The Hunger.

Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me. Cat people? Oh, I'm tapped. Okay. If cat people's not on there because I gotta be honest with you, I'm not entirely sure.

I think I may be conflating the soundtrack with an acting performance. And, Ben Oh, how did we not say Labyrinth? What the fuck is wrong? Holy shit. That was the one on the tip of my tongue too.

By the way, you won because he is not in cat people. He is not in cat people. I think I just I got the win. Oh, am I going first then? You get the I can go first.

Yeah. You can show us. This is a movie. This is a franchise, to be honest, a trilogy that I have watched multiple times. I remember at one point, I considered there a pantheon of trilogies, and they were for me, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and Back to the Future.

I have watched this one and the second one just constantly. When I was a kid, I can't remember the exact moment I watched it. I'm guessing it was my brother probably watching it, and I watched it with him. I think as close to obsessed as as one can be, my sister and I used to play a game called time machine where we would, wrap a blanket around our bunk bed, and I would be and he she would be Marty, and we would go somewhere in time. And I I would be the one telling her, like, oh, we're back in the prehistoric age or whatever.

And so this movie has just been when we talk about nostalgia a lot on this podcast, having the nostalgic pull, like, I can't separate myself from the nostalgic pull that I have for this movie. Putting it on, this time, I'm like, oh, yeah. I mean, like, not a moment goes by that I couldn't tell you what's exactly going to happen. It's just ingrained into me. So I think as a kid, I probably would have gone, with 5, flux capacitors.

5 out of 5. It was it was just that high bar of a movie for me. Just fun, adventure, Marty McFly. We all wanna be him. He's so cool.

Yeah. Yeah. And we all wanna doc, and he's just so fun. You're fun uncle. Uncle Blah.

And you all wanna beat up the school bully. You know? And so it's lived with me for so long, and I've revisited it frequently. Not as frequently as frequency, but I frequent I frequent, I frequent it frequently. I'm kinda I'm getting a little bit tired of you pushing the Jim Caviezel kinda thing here.

I'm tired of cutting around it. I've just I've given I've given you those pamphlets. I just want you to give them a read. I You know? Just I'm putting you on front street with Jim Caviezel, but also everyone, I can see Rudy.

Rudy's here. God. Hi, bud. You wanna come and say hi? Distracted now.

Hey, buddy. Oh, I think he's gonna be a guest for the remainder. Maybe. He's sitting on Ben's lap. He seems very cozy, very interested.

You want a per cast, buddy? Do you want a per cast? Oh, nope. And he's out. I had a feeling that that was gonna be short lived.

But that was nice, though. Right? That was good. Yeah. He wants he wants to leave this room.

Oh, yeah. I bet. What he's telling me. I wanna give you my bones and my money, Rudy. I wanna give you my money and my bones.

I love you. There he goes. We had a little cameo, or a cam meow. Uh-huh. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Woah. You went full Johnny Storm. That's crazy.

There's just, like, this flash of fiery light on this side. Well, flame on. Yeah. Anyway, as I was saying, old age now, it's still a very high movie for me. I still love it.

It doesn't come down in terms of quality in any capacity. I think the quality is high. I agree that the script is solid. The adventure is amazing. The score is amazing.

I'm going to sit firmly for now, pretty ironclad at 4 and a half flux capacitors. This for me is the first movie that I remember in my life, and I was 55. My dad's sitting me down, and, like, when I would speak, it was like, no. No. No.

And was really locked into this and definitely influenced by the clear love of it, the reverence for it on the end of my father. So for me walking into this movie, and I I've said this about a lot of movies on the podcast and I'm sure we'll continue to depending on what they are. This is maybe the movie I've seen the most in my life. Not sure. Might be.

Pretty sure I wore out or pretty close to wore out of VHS. I own the trilogy on Blu ray. I now have it on 4,000 k. And the home theater experience, etcetera, is fucking awesome. Those that's the only experience I've ever had with this movie is in various home viewing situations.

So through my young life, it was 5 Nike Bruins. Had to be Nice. Because those were Marty's fucking shoes. And Marty being the coolest, as you had mentioned So cool. He's so cool.

My previous most recent Etcetera viewing, I went in here full fucking hater mentality. I'm gonna tear this apart. I'm gonna be super fucking critical of this thing. And if those of you that have hung on to this thing that you're listening to now, I didn't infer. I didn't imply.

I suggest and we're getting serious here. I suggest in the real genius episode that that movie is better than this movie. And I sat down, and I'm ready to fucking hate this and tear this thing apart and focus on the weirdness things that so much of society has about people's, you know, direct relation to each other and so forth. And 10 minutes in, I'm beaming. And that's only when I've noticed it because I think I've probably been beaming for a while.

And so despite me coming in with a completely shitty, horrible, dumb, nonsensical attitude, this movie was like, no. Eat shit. The power of love compels you. Huey Lewis compels you. So I walked away from this movie feeling like there was one thing that I was like, I try to not do the this is what I would have liked to see, have seen.

I try to only go on what I saw the best I can. There's only one thing for me ultimately in this movie that I was like, well, but why that? Like, meh. Why didn't you do this or not do this or whatever it is? It's 5 bulletproof vests.

Oh, wow. That's where it's at for me now. Nice. The thing that last action hero that we talked about in our previous episode was missing for me at the end was that satisfying thing that lasts. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I know what you're saying. Yeah. This lasts through multiple multiple dozens and dozens dozens of us of viewings that it always fucking lands every time. I do walk away with a couple of questions that I'm not sure I've ever had before, but ultimately, like, the movie is bulletproof.

Five bulletproof vests. We can get into it, but, like, the performance the per the relationship and performance of Michael j Fox and Christopher Lloyd is what really ties the room together. So I think their emotional connection and Marty's, like, the brilliant story piece of him doc not wanting to know about the future, Marty knowing deep down that he can save his life, and, like, that push and pull and finally giving into like, I'm getting the goosebumps because, like, you know, he is and we get the idea from the initial world is that Marty, feels kind of alone even in his own family, and that Doc really is sort of his family. Refuged. Refuged to a degree.

And we're gonna do one thing before we do the thing thing. Something I thought I thought about a lot editing the last action hero episode, which is long as shit and took a long time to edit, and I love it so much. But, I mean, I love all our episodes. They're all my children. You're all my children.

This movie is a fantasy adventure that is also if you wanna genre fight it more is a sci fi. If you wanna go super subgenre, it's a time travel movie. And that's what I was thinking of when I was editing last action hero is, well, this is a fantasy movie. It's an action fantasy or fantasy adventure. The subgenre is, you know, this, fish out of water or this, like, this other trope or, like, when we were talking about Willow, the subgenre is sword and sorcery.

And we get into these in-depth discussions, and I think it's just necessary to to kinda say, like, we will nitpick even as deep as sub sub subgenres of things at times. So just prepare thyselves, listeners. Guild gild gild by loins. What's the term? It's not gild.

It's that. It's not right. It's that. It's that. It's that.

Card your loins? No. TTRI your loins. Let's start the movie. Dark the movie.

Dark the movie. Dark the movie. Dark the movie. And now, our feature presentation. I don't know if there is a beginning of a movie that I've watched more times in my life because I laughed harder when I was less mature because I wasn't even 10 or whatever of just the dog food can pouring out because I thought it looked like poop or puke or whatever it is.

But the the tour the tour of Doc's place, the cat clocks and the whole thing. Yeah. I you know, this movie and, Honey, I am so sorry that I potentially maybe took our children from their normal size and brought them into the possibility? And I give her a little whoopsie. They're not quite the same, size that they once were.

Yeah. It's Yeah. They're different. But those both these movies kinda have this this fun little, like the way that they open in terms of showing us the sort of, like, Rube Goldberg or the or the science of it, the robot arm, like, it just fucking, like, immediate and the this one opens with the ticking of the clock that tick tick tick tick tick tick. Yes.

It just and then the skateboard comes in, kicks up. Like, it just is such a solid establishing of tone of the feeling, like, every and and to introduce Marty that way with the plugging the the his guitar into that giant sound system. The crazy amp. You don't see him. You you see a skateboard.

You see Beat Sneakers. He he clearly likes dogs, and he wants to play guitar, and he blows this amp and gets the panicked phone call from the dock after as as we're saying, we're establishing through this long pan, like, dolly shot of where the dock lives. It's clear he's an inventor. It's clear he's Yeah. Electronics and all this shit.

But a news piece goes by about stolen plutonium. And Mhmm. This movie is so good at being so laissez faire about exposition all the time, and I never felt inundated by it in viewing 50 or whatever the fuck I'm on. I never felt inundated by it. The script is so smart, and I see why they use it.

Like, throughout the whole opening, like, you're getting these pieces that will come back and pay off, much later in the movie. It's a hard skill to lay an exposition like that, to lay in backstory like that, without it feeling forced. When Marty pulls it out these speakers and then leaves Doc's garage, the only I remember even as a kid thinking that this is the only part of the movie that felt weird to me, which was the transition between what looked like and is a shitty street with a Burger King on it into the very, like, clean looking universal background. Pristine universal lock. Yeah.

Yeah. I remember even as a kid being like, those are the same place? That Burger King, obviously, shitty valley is the same as this, like, hill valley that looks like this quaint little town. That's the only that was the only I remember that as a kid too, and it's still and now being on having been in we've like, having been on the universal back button knowing that exact area, and that is a big reason why they were able to cut down their budget was be was just basically just taking over that square and be like, okay. We're gonna shoot the whole fucking thing here.

They shot a crazy amount of the movie, like, in various places on the universal lot and refaced all sorts of stuff and everything. The the thing that doesn't bother me about that transition as I watched it today, because it's also hit me before, and it hit me that it didn't hit me. I love that he leaves Doc Brown's place, and he, again, skateboard, dirty sneakers, is hitching on the back of cars and trucks. Yeah. And he's willing to kinda, like, bend the rules, and he's resourceful, and he's, like, seems scrappy.

I'm this entry's Dennis the menace. And he shows up at school, and I did almost rate this 5 smegma tags because this was the first time I ever noticed in my life that it says smegma On the outside of the school, when he meets Jennifer, his girlfriend, someone has graffiti tags the word Smeg. I have no idea. I've never seen that. Oversight?

I don't know. He's also it's established super early. He's tardy. It's the 4th time in a row. Again, he's a kid that's, like, weird.

Slacker McFly. Exactly. He he Strickland, like, bald nose to nose, like, whatever, and Marty not intimidated. And just, like, this is a kid that you immediately know. It's like, oh, he's not an asshole.

He's not like a shithead or whatever, but he's like, hey. Fuck you to authority to a degree. He's very confident in who he is and and also, like, knows that he can help in like, you kinda get this feeling from him. And I think, partially, it is just the casting of Michael j Fox in this is epic because I think he just brings such a good heart to every character he plays that you believe that he would truly help anybody in need. And that's what I remember as a kid, I don't know if I wanted to be Marty McFly.

I think I did, but I also wanted to, like, hang out with Marty McFly. I wanted a friend like Marty McFly who could, like, be the guy who stands up to the bullies, be the guy that, like, is the cool guy that I'm cool by proxy with. You know? Yeah. But that's like, oh, yeah.

The the girl, she's into you. I wanna I'm gonna help you out. Like, you're gonna feel better. Do let me read your writing. Like, that sort of a thing.

Like, he's just naturally the way it's written and acted, and and I wanted to kinda wait to dig into this. Part of why this movie works so well despite some of the things that people have tried to put kinda chinks in its armor but still bulletproof is specifically his, but everybody's performances through the movie. And what a brave performance by Leah Thompson. Oh my god. Especially considering just the context of the writing.

It's really established super early too. Marty is told by Strickland at the point where they're nose to nose, your band's auditioning for the school dance later, you're gonna fail. You're a fucking failure. Your dad's a failure. You'll never get anywhere or any of that shit.

And he goes and auditions with his band, the pinheads. Cue bonus. And he plays probably not the the best move to play a Huey Lewis song for Huey Lewis. For Clueless. You're just for that to me.

I'm sorry. You're just too dang loud. Next, please. Next, please. I watched the video for the power of love today, Ben.

Did you did you think about Patrick Bateman? Do you like Hulu in the News? I do think about Patrick Bateman. Sports. That's right.

We're best ones. Is that a rain jacket? My middle name is Paul. My middle name being what it is, I can't help but think about that with me so often. Marty and his band get thrown out by because they're too loud, and he immediately is talking about how he's lacking, how he he'll never measure up.

Nobody wants to see me play. I never wanna send my tape in. I'll never play in front of people. I'm not good enough. And he's failed, like, one time.

He just instantly folds. We kinda get this idea too as, like you know, he's got this weekend set up. They're gonna go camping. Yeah. He's gonna buy Jennifer is awesome.

His girlfriend is awesome. Yeah. His girlfriend's awesome. And then we get to his house and, like, the car is fucked up, and he meets about one key piece. A piece of exposition that you almost forget that it happens.

There's some lady, some solicitor that's like, what you have money for the clock tower. Save the clock tower. And she Save the clock tower. Save the clock tower. That woman gives Marty a flyer that he keeps because Jennifer writes her grandmother's number on it.

And it says the exact day, the time, and everything that lightning is gonna take that clock tower out. And that is so fucking key to the entire movie. Originally, the script I think we a lot of people know this, but some people don't. Originally, the time machine in the script was a refrigerator. Yes.

And it wasn't it wasn't a DeLorean. It wasn't a car at all. And the way that they powered it was from the blast of a nuclear bomb. And I'm getting a little crystal crystal skull there. Right?

Crystal skull pepper on there. Yeah. But the the the way that they needed to send him back was to recreate the power of a nuclear bomb, and they were gonna build like, this was the original script. They were gonna build, like, trinity like, testing thing in the desert and drop a bomb with the refrigerator at the same time, and that was, like, gonna send it back to the future. And then, like, in talk like, in the interview with Bob, Gail, they were like, well, we realized that was just, like, way out of our reach.

Like, we just could not afford that. Insane? That's insane. And then they came up with a lightning strike, as a way to send him back. And then they're like, well, maybe it hits a clock tower.

And then they're like, well, then we have to build a clock tower. Like, there was this whole conversation about building a tower and having it hit that. And then somebody, I guess, in one of these meetings just went, well, why don't we just put a clock on top of the courthouse? And the way that Bob Gale describes that, he was he said, like and this is as I've probably mentioned on this podcast before, he was, like, sometimes when you are limited, your creative brain works harder. Yes.

Yes. Yes. And that ends up paying off huge in this movie because we all remember the the clock tower being the, like, the courthouse. Like, it's just so memorable. Well, and we also were just talking about Alien Romulus, a movie that to its credit, you know, goes pretty hard into practical effects.

And partly because, you know, it's better at times and partly because there are budgetary things that sometimes put you in a situation. But, wow, like, just to hearken back to that. And what a happy, beautiful accident to come to this compromise or this decision about the DeLorean. Mhmm. So great.

It's so fucking perfect. And this is where now this is for me where the cast, like, already is starting to sing. Leah Thompson's, you know, almost 50. Tom Wilson as Biff is almost 50. Crispin Glover's almost 50.

And all of these actors are firing on all cylinders through this sequence of it being 1985 and uncle Joey's prison cake and the peanut brittle and I guess uncle Joey didn't make Bill. But who'd wanna hurt me? I'm this century's Dennis the menace. The and the that if just is like he's George's boss, his bully the bull George's bully is his boss. And it's also easy to forget that these actors are actually in their twenties.

Yeah. The the makeup's so good. The makeup is good, and their performances are strong in you know, we I believed as a child, I definitely believed that they were adults. Like, the magic was real for me. Yes.

Something I'll never forget in this moment when they're sitting there watching, Howdy Doody, eating dinner around the table. Jackie Gleeson? He, was it Jackie Gleeson or Howdy Doody? Jackie Gleeson. It's It's a rerun.

And then, yeah. What the hell is a rerun? His his brother hisses his dad's head and was, oh, it's time to change that oil pop. And he goes, oh, like, the the Chrisman Glover laughed. Okay.

I gotta ask. And I I've heard, again, I've heard Chris and Glover was apparently a nightmare to work with. Absolute nightmare. Have you ever seen and this is the thing. It doesn't excuse bad behavior.

Absolutely not at all. I can't think of a single Crispin Glover performance that I haven't been like, I like this actor. I like this actor's performance. Yeah. Absolutely solid.

Creepy thin man, even in, Charlie's Angels, You know, the shitty Tim Burton, Alice in Wonderland. He was the, what, the white knight or whatever. He was good. Yeah. He's always a very unique, striking person to see on screen, but I can see why I understand why they replaced him for the sequel, because, apparently, again, just kind of a kind of an asshole.

Yeah. But I'll never forget. So we we we kinda get this what I think they do really smart at the dinner table here is I never sat in a car with a boy. I never I never drank alcohol with a boy. We're getting we're getting this idea of who the mom wants us to think who she wants her kids to think people should act and, like, doesn't like and I don't like Jennifer, Marty.

It was a You shouldn't oh, Jennifer. Oh, yeah. And the and the telling of the under the sea enchantment under the sea ball, and, like, that's how they you know, their first dance, first kiss. More exposition that feels like, okay. What okay.

Great. Yeah. Because it feels like the story that's been told of course, they've been telling their kids about how they met. Such a good job with the brother and sister in that point, just being like, oh, we get it. Yeah.

That's not true. I thought it was because that person. Hit dad with the with the car. Yeah. And, like yeah.

That whole sequence is such a smartly written, sequence to get some explanation in. Absolutely. It is. I agree with you. Marty waking up, and we finally are going to get a reveal of this mysterious doctor that has, you know, been disparaged by people.

And Has it ever has it struck you every single time that it struck me the way that Marty is sleeping in his bed? Oh, yeah. But he looks like he's He's, like, got his face down ass up? That's the way he liked to fuck. His arms behind his back.

Don't judge him. That's the way he liked to fuck. This feeling that he'd because it's midnight when he gets up to go to, Twin Pines Mall. So you get this feeling he just passed out and got and then we get this really cool reveal of the DeLorean. Dude, like, when it comes down the ramps This for me as you just started kind of doing your, you know, reprise of the theme, or one of the themes, it's just the score is so good.

It's so Yeah. Good. It's arguably, that's a it's a top 5 or 10 or, like, I don't know. It's a high echelon high echelon of scores. I mean Yeah.

It it's it's doing exactly what it needs to do. It gets you right in the pocket. It makes it feel magical and fun and adventure y and dangerous. It it it it does so much, but we get This is a 4 star movie without this score. That is how good this score is to me.

The score Yeah. Makes it sing, pun intended. That's the power of a score too. Right? That's the power of, like of love.

Power of love, baby. Yeah. I'm gonna eat these Cheez It crumbs real quick. Oh, you should. It's gonna be long.

Hey. When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit. You're gonna see some serious shit. That line delivery by Christopher Lloyd is so fucking awesome and cool and confident and rad. And even though Mhmm.

Christopher Lloyd has said, I haven't really fully tested this thing. I'm sticking my dog in it. Stand right in front of it with me as I get it to 88 miles an hour, and we don't know what this thing is gonna do. Like, that that is pretty fucking reckless, and that's the first moment where I'm like, oh, I get why all the adults are like, hey. Stay away from that old crazy guy who wants to, like, hit you with his maybe time machine.

We'll see. Yeah. Did you know that his, the the pet he was supposed to have was a monkey? No. I did not know that.

Yeah. It was supposed to be a monkey named, it was like sherpa or something. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

The and the plutonium. One for it, Marty. The little sequence here where it's like, yeah. They told me to build them a bomb. I gave them a empty shell full of pinball pinball It it's inside of a pinball.

Such a great piece of writing that the doc did not steal that plutonium himself or hire somebody to steal it. He stole it from terrorists. That simple piece of writing absolves him of any level of wrongdoing really in doing this crazy thing he did, but we get this gunfight or not gunfight, gun pursuit, just the Libyan spraying gunfire at Marty after they've murdered Doc Brown, who we just met. Marty jumps into the Emporium. Oh my god.

They found me. And I don't know how, but they found me. Somehow Palpatine returned. I even before it, Marty. That the AK 47 jams because that movie that movie that gun is known to jam in movies as well as in real life.

And I love that fucking Doc Brown is wearing those high top Nike Vandals sneakers or whatever fucking Nike high tops he has on. And, like, that whole scene see if you so frantic and Yeah. And kinetic, and it's Let's see if you assholes can do 90. Yeah. And the way that Marty already drives and you can tell that, you know, stunt drivers were just so having so much fun fucking in this parking lot just going fucking apeshit.

Ripping this heavy fucking stainless steel rear wheel drive car just, like, tearing tires to pieces. And the magic, you know, like, even the small thing, like, the iconic shot which we passed over, but is that when the car is heading towards them in the test run, and he's and he's got, yeah, and he's got the little remote control and the little looks of, like, Marty's got this giant camcorder and the look of Marty to dock of, like, the cars coming right towards them, and then doc looking at Marty, like, don't move. Don't move. Come closer. Like, the car yeah.

And then it just going the effect, and then the flames on the ground, underneath their, legs is just. So much of it holds up. So much of it. And they use the green screen so sparingly. It's just for, like, a Yeah.

A couple few seconds, and then it cuts away. And that's Yeah. What it should do. That's part of my, I guess, my issue with a lot of special effects filmmaking now. Not only that it's not practical or that the movie leans on the special effects, but that the movie wants to, like, constantly show you the special effects.

Like, look at the computer thing we did, and it's like, please stop. Please stop. It doesn't look as as wonderful as you think it does to everyone. Marty is now in 1955. Mhmm.

He's he those motherfuckers In a barn. And he's in Yeah. Old man old man Peabody's barn getting a shot trying to at him. Old man Peabody was trying to breed pine trees. Yep.

Lone pine, twin pines. That's you know, I thought about 2 a lot while I was watching this because I've maybe seen 2 more than 1. And why? God only knows. But it's just I it's one of those things where it's like, I feel like if I watch 2 anytime too soon, it's gonna dilute 1 for me, where we were talking about I a couple episodes ago.

I think I liked so many movies that have now diluted ET a little for me, which is wild. I think I used to like 2 when I was a kid more than 1. I don't know I don't know why. I think there was something fun about the future. I think 1 is a better movie than 2.

Oh, by a long shot, I agree. Long, long shot. But I guess I don't know. There was something about the future into as when I was a kid that I really, liked. Hoverboards, sports almanacs, self drying jackets, self lacing shoes.

This, like, fucking prediction of Donald Trump through Biff Tannen, that whole thing. It all holds up. Marty kind of exploring Hill Valley, the refaced universal lot, and stumbling into the local diner and ultimately his father, which is so great. You wanna you wanna tab? You gotta get something.

Can I get a Pepsi free? You want a Pepsi? You're gonna pay Pepsi? You gotta pay for it. Give can I just give me something without sugar, and he's just sitting next to his own Something without sugar?

You're George McPhray. When he's, like, eating cereal, like, what? Yeah. So To me, Crispin Glover's level of neurosis is just so just palatable. It's so perfectly palatable.

Just like when we were cry. A specific actor on this program who's making his second appearance on the program, first appearance in this movie, Billy Zane. Hey. I just gave a thumbs up. Did you see that?

Yeah, buddy. Zoom zoom zoom and a boom boom. The zeniacs are here. We're zoom zaniacs. Zany zany zoomers.

We love you zaniacs. Also, I love throughout all movies the repetition of this. I think the Biff coming in with his gang of hooligans and confronting someone, like, they repeat it throughout all three movies, and each time, I'm satisfied. Oh. But, yeah, he confronts him, and he's gonna be He came.

The shit out of him, and Marty To a decision? To a decision. Brought to us by TGRI. Okay. But Marty standing up to Biff.

Oh, the camera angle. Yeah. It's brilliant. Brilliant. And we're we he follows George because he's his dad, and he follows him and sees that he's a peeping Tom.

I this has worked for me more in this viewing more than any other time, this whole incestual part of the writing, of the story line. Be mostly because of what you're saying, it has hit me more Michael j Fox, the beauty, the nuance, the delicacy of the performance of my mom is horny for me. I'm not horny for my mom. I don't wanna be doing this. I just don't wanna not exist.

It really resonated with me so much more than it ever has in this viewing. Yeah. When he wakes up, and they repeat this sequence in, I think, all three movies too. When he wakes up in his mom's because, right, his dad falls out of the tree. I guess, if you really wanna get with any time travel movie, the second you start pulling this at a loose thread, you're gonna unravel the whole thing.

And so there is there's So you clearly haven't seen time cop because you wouldn't be saying this nonsense that you're saying. Okay, buddy. I saw Tyson beat Strings on TV. But his grandpa was supposed to hit his dad with the car, and then his dad was gonna come is gonna do the same thing as when he brought in, and his mom would fall in love with his dad. But he saw his dad and just, like, out of instinct, tossed him out of the way and then got hit by the car.

Now suddenly, he's waking up with no pants on in his mother's room. When Michael j Fox's head hits the pavement both times Oh. Every time I've seen this movie, I'm like, oh my god. Every fucking time I've seen it. Because both times, it looks like it's him, and that is pavement.

That is a Canadian giving his all for country and body and bobs and Like a bob, I mean, it just looks brutal. Okay. And his his mom having taken his pants off and be you know, your name is Calvin, and I've never seen purple underwear before. He just the fucking tiny little levels of seasoning that he gives this performance of, like, I can't seem too freaked out. I can't seem too upset.

I can't see he starts to go in a direction and seems to pull back a lot, and it never feels like overacting. It never feels like melodrama. It never feels very sell y, but it's still funny. It's so good. Mhmm.

There you go. Yeah. It does. It is a thin line to walk because it could easily become really gross, really melodramatic, or really serious, or really silly. Like, there's so many ways that it could've gone wrong, but I think the performances of those actors and, where are my pants?

They're over there on my hope chest. It's so well, oh my god. It's my mother. Throwing the pants at him and even the little stumbles he puts his pants on. And then getting the dinner seek we get another dinner scene and the lines that are thrown around, like, oh, you better get used to these bars, kid.

The little Joey. Joey. And he's an idiot. His parents are probably idiots too. You ever had a kid like that, Lorraine, I'll disown you.

It's so great. Like, when when it's great how they laid on in 1955 that Michael J. Fox's Riverside you mean John f Kennedy? And his grandfather Yeah. Says, who the hell is John f Kennedy?

And it's, like, 5 years away from that guy being the president. The the little things that he gets away with during this dinner, like, the the honeymooners, the Jackie Gleason rerun, I should say. The Jackie Gleason rerun. What's a rerun? The kid from wonder years.

And monster squad maybe coming in October. Uh-oh. Is that Paul's choice for spooky season? Spooky season? The little things of him, it's almost like him soft launching into 1955.

Like, he's in a weirdly safe place, but not where his mom is grabbing his leg and shit. But people are just like, you're you're weird. Like, you're strange. What's your what's your deal? He has nobody has 2 televisions.

He's joking. Yeah. You know, like, little things that he's he's having to, like, recalibrate how he speaks and how he, you know, how he kind of just kinda, like, goes around in this world. It is very much like you had already said. It's a fit we're we're establishing the fish out of water story now, and he's having to figure out we're not quite at that point where the problem has established, which is Oh.

He might not exist because he's fucked up his parents' meeting, but we're almost there. I think they were right here at actually establishing the most relevant problem that this movie brings up. Are you guys so Marty now goes to Doc Brown on Riverside John f Kennedy Mhmm. And sells Doc Brown on, I'm from the future, buddy. You sent me here.

You made an invention that works. The thing that you hit your head about today, that's it's gonna work out. You're gonna make the flux capacity. And Doc Brown, asks, who's president in 1985? Yeah.

And Marty says Ronald Reagan. And then Doc Brown Reagan? Asks The actor? Question of who's vice president, Jerry Lewis? Yeah.

Because we're 30 years removed from Ronald Reagan being, almost kind of barely movie star, by that point and then and then becoming president. And then 30 years later time for Bebo, baby. Another fucking asshole dipshit, you know, went through to the eighties, and you were like, Donald Trump, that fucking fraud that has never done anything ever. Like, it doesn't pay his fucking bills yet. That no fucking way.

So it's just crazy. Mean the racist? But it's just interesting. It's like, oh, we're repeating these mistakes in a worse way. Please someone bring Idiocracy.

Bring Wall E. I just rewatched WALL E, and god bless it is a perfect movie. They're making a Reagan movie with our favorite, Quay. Quay. Dennis Quay.

Start the reactor. I hope that line's in there where Ronald Reag is tell Ronald Reagans telling Randy Quaid, played by Randy Quaid, to start the reactor, and they're, like, nuking Russia. Something's, like, crazy. Doc isn't fully on board yet. Marty gets him there.

With the lightning bolt thing, like, how could we Yeah. I I think Doc is inspired by the challenge. What you're saying is true. How can we regenerate this? I don't have plutonium.

You can't pick that up anywhere here. That's you can't have Libyan steal it even at this point. The only thing I could do it is lightning. And now we have, like, the flyer again and, like do that. And that's this movie.

And that's so smart too because it creates the ticking clock clock of, like, does the this is the time frame that you have to get this done by. And then going back to going, oh, and also you fucked up because your parents hadn't met yet. And not only do we have to get you back we have to get this experiment right to get you back to the future in this time, but you have to mend this. Otherwise, you're not gonna exist. You have a week.

You have a week to figure this out. Or the flyer tells us you have a week. Like you said, ticking clock. It's so well written and somehow even you know what? I'm a I'm gonna overstate it.

It is equally executed. And now he has to be his father's best friend and life coach to try to get him to a point where his mom is gonna be into him, and he also has to somehow string along his mom in a way that Oh my god. Is not, like makes him look bad so she stops having a crush on him, but also needs to, like, build up George. And himself. Hilarity ensues.

Yeah. Yeah. Because he has to say, I'll never perform in front of people. Like, I don't want anybody to see what I do. I can't send out my tape, like, where George doesn't wanna share his writing.

Like, you're saying, Marty's playing a million different roles Yeah. And has a confidence that he doesn't even know that he has at this point of the movie. Yeah. And the fly in the ointment for the whole thing is fucking Biff. Is Biff.

Because Biff just keeps getting in the way. But ultimately, is also the thing that helps. Because if you don't have Biff coming at the end and then George punching coming to a decision and George punching him out, you might not actually get them back together. You have to have Biff. The top 5 or 6 people in this cast are so insanely integral.

Strickland is insanely integral to keeping Marty down and someone to overcome in the end, to a decision, overcome to a decision. It's even this thing where George McFly leaves all these context clues for his son about he's obsessed with aliens and outer worlds and space travel and all this stuff, and Marty is scrappy and smart enough to go, well, just use my fucking Walkman and my nuclear protection suit and blast Edward Van Halen in his ears. Who are you? Silence, Earthling. My name is Darth Vader.

I am an extraterrestrial from the planet Vulcan. You gotta this lady. You gotta park with her. And Yeah. Works.

The I'm your density, your destiny, the Crispin Glover thing works. Lorraine's little friends in the diner and Biff showing up with Billy Zane. It all works. This whole movie is like tumblers in a fucking lock. And the classic and now we get the chase around the tower.

That again, they reused that in all three movies, and it always works because they always do something different with the the hoverboard and then the, like, horses. It's such a fun sequence. You know? And It is. Him covering that car in manure is just such a great payoff.

The idea of It's so fun. The this is the thing that is going to allude to a thing I the thing that I'm like, why this? The idea of Marty taking a fruit crate, a milk crate, a scooter, and ripping it off and using it as a skateboard makes sense that he kind of quasi invented or somewhat inspired skateboarding. It totally works. Marty, the whole punch, the whole thing, it all works.

The the escape back to Doc's works, and Doc already having a model that he apologizes not having to exact scale or painted. Yeah. The fucking scientist. Let's run a test and see. I'll let let me demonstrate this for you.

But I love that model. I've, ever since I was a kid, I loved and the the card just burst into flames and flies off the table. Into the into the, like, ether soap. Or eggs? Or whatever.

Yeah. And boom. It'll it'll it'll work, doc. It'll it'll totally work. The lightning, you'll be fine.

When doc when they somehow this we can I I I'll forgive? There's a couple things in this where I'm like, how did you set up a recorder from 1985 to play into a 19 fifties television that definitely didn't have an a, like, a a What what wires how did you I know you're a smart guy, but, like Seen the last thing they shot, which is, like, you know, they found me. I don't know how, but they found me. One third, Marty. They found me.

I don't know. And then Marty's gonna tell doc, listen, you know, before I left, and him like, no. You can't. Don't tell me whatever you say could rip a hole in the space time continuum or whatever. And so, you know, we're establishing that early, which is Marty knows Doc dies right before he left, and he's trying to see if he can save his life.

But This movie does such a great job of of rules of 3 at different times with different things Yeah. And the way that it does it. It's Yeah. Quite fucking impressive. And Marty going over the plan with George now.

He's Marty's convinced George, you're Lorraine's density. You gotta do this. We gotta follow through with this, and he's helping George, his dad dad, daddy daddy o? His daddy Dad daddy o? Hang these clothes up to dry, and Michael j Fox seeming to have his skin crawling about thinking about potentially going to, I'm sorry, 2nd base, I hopefully only first, with his mom.

You can tell he is so upset just talking about this. I forgive the fact that so many why would I forgive so many people having a dumb thought about a thing that's clearly, like, very innocent? I I just find that so much more irrelevant now watching the movie for the first time in a few years where it's like, no. This is dumb. If you watch this movie, that what you're talking about, this incest, it's his mom, is not an issue.

And I love that in the car, she's drinking. He's like, you smoke too? And she's like, come on, Marty. What do you like, don't be such a square. And then when they find when they kiss, she's like, pull away and a face.

And she's like, I don't know. When I kiss you, it's like kissing my brother. It's really well acted, and it It is. It immediately it also for me at least, now as an adult, I didn't really care as a kid, but as an adult now, I'm like, it puts me at ease, like, oh, okay. Great.

She now understands this is not something that is gonna happen and doesn't want it to happen. Leah Thompson does such a phenomenal job all the way through this movie, especially just she's so enamored with Calvin Klein where he punches Biff and stands up to Biff and skateboards around Biff, and he's just so great. And this is Dennis the Menace. This moment that is inspired by nothing other than her getting a confirmation of, like, I don't like this. Yeah.

The switch she makes is so great in that moment in the car. Of Marty, I'm 18. Of course, I parked. And the reveal of, like, your mom is not this, like, perfect, I went to the nunnery person you think she is, obviously. And Biff is a rapist.

Dude, the fact that Marty's gone and Biff even has to tell his dipshit pals, he's like, Billy, guys, get away. I'm about to be really, really awful. Yeah. And, like, ultimate bad guy. Ultimate bad guy.

Even though, like, you can be, like, wait a minute, you know, and once we get back to the future, it's like he employs his wife's rapist as attempted rapist. Attempted rape assault assault, at least. Aggravated assault for him. Just like some cast he's like some castrated Renfield character now. You know?

Like, it's so fucking it's so weird. Hey, you. Get your damn hands off of her. And that sequence is shot so well. It is.

It's shot so well. You know, Marty is in a trunk now. He can't come help George. George is all alone. And the kind of conceit that George has to be the hero for this work to work all the way.

Mhmm. Marty's indisposed. It's just George and Biff. And, like you were saying, the camera angle and the music, and it's so fucking rousing. And Crispin Glover sweating and his eyes turning bright blue.

And Mhmm. Nia Thompson, like, you're gonna break his arm. You're gonna break his arm. And Tom Wilson And then laughing, the henchman laughing, like, everything, like, in that sequence and then the shot of his fist balling up Oh. And just the the way that he just swings around and just full on 360 punches in.

Dude It's so fucking satisfying. The angles and the editing and Tom Wilson's acting like the face and the neck snap and the whole thing, everything is I'm I'm sated. This is exactly what I wanted to happen here. And this is where the movie now actually starts to set me up for a very brief minor fall. Because Marty has been locked in the trunk and Marvin Berry and the Starlighters, the band who, like, saved his ass and confirmed that the guy This is Marvin.

The yeah. Marvin Berry. Your cousin. The bad guys say the bad things and use the racial slur and say, like, we don't wanna fight no reefer addicts and all this other stuff. And it's like, no.

You guys fucking suck. You guys using the racial slurs and that are intolerant, fucking get the fuck out of here and kinda save the day getting Marty out of the trunk and invite him to play because he can play guitar. It's been established. Well, and the guy who opened the trunk then cut his hand opening the trunk, so he can't play guitar anymore. The deal was not sealed yet.

Right? Like, the photo is still disappearing. There's something that needs to happen in this dance, which is already established in the conversation in the very beginning. The first kiss they ever had was at the dance, and so they need to have that first kiss. Well, and as importantly as that, Marty has to find his confidence, and it's well written that it this is a device for Marty to finally play in front of people.

It's finally gonna happen. Mhmm. He's gonna find his confidence, his he gets his, his swag. He fully goes balls out. The 2 songs for me in this movie, like, that I was obsessed with as a kid, I literally listened to Earth Angel and Johnny B.

Goode because of this movie. I would listen to them on repeat because because of this movie, I just thought again, Marty is so cool. The Johnny B. Goode sequence, as absurd as it is, because it makes zero sense for him to be like, follow me for the changes. You know, like, that's not really how bands work.

It'd be pretty challenging for someone to do that. No shit. This is where you can again, if you pull the seam, if you pull the thread. Right? Like, wait.

So are you telling me he always invented that song? Because Marvin Berry called Chuck Berry. And then, you know, there's a couple of things like that in this that do that where you're like, wait. So was he always there? Because, you know, he named they named their kid Marty, so you could say they named him after this guy.

Like, there's a couple of moments like that right here. That doesn't bug me. Like, the Marty thing where it's like, oh, we met this guy when we were in high school. I'm sure I could go to 30 different high schools in America and see my doppelganger for all I know. And who knows?

Maybe 5 6 or 8 of them have my name. Who knows? So, like, that doesn't bug bug me that much. The thing that bugs me, you know, the the family's been saved. That doesn't bug me.

George and Lorraine kiss. The creep from the burbs, the nephew, whatever, gives it a shot, and it doesn't work out. George gets after it, and everybody's back in the picture no more fading. And it's great that Marvin Berry why it has to be Marvin Berry? Maybe he really is Marvin Berry.

It says these songs are performed by Marvin Berry and the Starlighters. But he asks Marty to step in and play, and he straight up says, let's do something that really cooks. Mhmm. That's fine with me. It's fine with me that he plays Johnny B.

Goode. I'm gonna review review this like some folks have a tendency to do, and I'm sure I have before. The phone call that Marvin Berry makes to Chuck Berry to imply that Chuck Berry or Little Richard or various other folks that pioneers of rock and roll are not entirely responsible for that. This is another, uncle Bob Zemeckis movie does some of these things for Scum. Uncle Bob, That are like, wait.

What the fuck? What? Why? And so Yeah. I mean, I it was just a throw it feels like it was a throwaway joke, and it's easy to, like Just don't make a call.

Make make the Go down the rabbit hole. Yep. I don't wanna But again what's done Again, there's but there's a couple of things there's a couple of things in it where you question whether or not he was always there because, like, he tells the guy in the diner, like, you're gonna be mayor. He's like, mayor. Yeah.

And, like, like, he's like, wait. Did he give him that idea? You know, there's a couple of moments like that. But, again, I think because of the time travel of it all, it's it's really Cool. Especially because this is a comedy.

I just let a lot of that stuff just go. I I try to do that too. I just, like again, just don't make the phone call. Make the guy a different name. He can still play the same song.

I don't know. Do you think the call is coming from inside the house? I'm coming. K. Inside the house.

Decision about that. I do think it is. I do think it's gonna I mean, it's his second cousin probably at least, same last name. The clock tower lightning strike in the little sequence that he says So good. That's set up where, like, the plug comes loose.

Oh, it's so good. It's great. It's so great. I hate that I almost sound, like, tired of, like, lee of dumping praise on this movie. It's like at a very a point very early in this podcast, I'm, like, dumping praise on Walter Hill, and I almost sound like I'm tired of myself for doing that.

It's like this movie, I'm like, yeah. You're a great movie. We get it. The lightning strike and Marty going back to the future, which again, fucking great title. Mhmm.

Great title. Oh, yeah. It is a great title. And Doc, having got the memo, wore a bulletproof vest and it's saved. And his and his whole family is a different their energy is different.

Their confidence is back. It's like it like, when he walks in and sees his dad has his books, and, like, they just his parents look great, and it's something that he did when he was back there with them. And I think it's because he punched out Biv. Just instilled confidence. It, like, gave him this confidence to make his life better, and they all sort of follow suit.

And Marty has a truck, which is really fucking cool. A dope 10, a 4 by 4 from Statler Toyota. And they have a, castrated Renfield Yep. This instant. I love that, like, the the sister, for instance, is like, I need to find a boyfriend, and now she has too many to instance, is like, I need to find a boyfriend, and now she has too many to juggle.

And the the brother takes the BMW to work and wears a suit and doesn't take the bus. And it's all Yeah. The movie is all about believing in yourself and the thing that is, if you believe in yourself, you can achieve anything or whatever the line is that Doc says, that Marty says to George, that George then says to and even George's book is The the little things of Marty showing his dad when he was young when he didn't know. Like, I wanna read your writing. I'm interested in what you're doing.

There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Little things like that.

This movie is all about just building people up. And Now Biff Yeah. You wouldn't be lying to me now, would you? No. What what if he missed any flyers?

I was just, I'm star I just started the second cup. Oh, Biff. The old rapist you. Yeah. I know.

God. You know, for them again, as you were talking about sticking to these things in the movies that come after this, they stick with that with Biff big time. Doc drives back with news. Marty, your kids are assholes. And where we're going, we don't need roads.

And it says literally to be continued, which is bullshit. That's it. In the future, we there is no get like, they put, like, beer and a can and a banana peel, which I always it's just so exciting. Yes. Apparently, in the original script, when Marty comes back, it was supposed to be, like, a futuristic eighties.

Like, it was supposed to be, like, something dramatic changed and made it more futuristic, which doesn't quite make sense. And, also, I think it was Sin Shineberg who was like, that doesn't make sense. I you shouldn't have that ending. There is something about it being slightly cleaner. Like, let's say, Goldie got the idea to be mayor earlier, but also that Yeah.

Compounds and reinforces and pushes forward some of this, like, white innovator, white savior stuff that happens through the movie where it's like it Yeah. Marty already gave him the idea. So I don't know. I don't know. Sure.

But the what a fucking exciting ending to end your movie as a already you know, in a world now where we're, you know, we're having Marvel movies where a blue guy walks through a door at the end and goes, it's me, Blerco. You must come with me to save the world. And everyone everyone loses their minds. Oh my god. It's Richard Greco.

Greco's back. Fuck off. You know Richard Greco from the from the series Greco that was on, 21 Jump Street and his cameo in the night at the Roxbury. And now he's Did you blorco. Ginko as Blorco.

You have to watch the Blorco series to get it. If you didn't watch the Blorco series, Blorco doesn't play for you. Fuck that shit so hard. God, that shit annoys me. Well done, Benjamin.

Well done. We, sufficiently gave this a full teacher. I think we cut the balls. We we went up and down quite a bit. You're the only wild card, so it's appropriate that you're going first.

But, also, should you go fast since you're the only wild card? Well, I think I'm gonna I'm coming. I'm I'm just coming because I was talking about this movie, so I'm currently coming here. To a decision. Do you need some time to do that?

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Bye. No. I I really went in with the mentality of, like, fuck this movie. I'm with all these people that are haters. It's not as good as I remember.

And, again, it it took me 10 minutes to realize that I had already realized a while ago how dumb that is. It's Yeah. I feel like it's pretty ironclad at this point. I don't think as much as there you could pull it again, pull out those threads and that stuff, it it doesn't bother me because the movie is just so well made top to bottom. Soup to nuts, if you will.

Coming. Fuck. This is a great movie to end the blockbuster bonanza with because it is one of the best and most iconic To a decision. Summer blockbusters to ever be made. And It's really something.

It's really something. Nothing in terms of time travel, you know, time travel, fun, adventure, nothing's come close. Moses, spring time cop. Moses, I need you. I saw Tyson.

With space. I have a message from Moses. Well, Moses, time cop. Need time cop. He might be back sooner with something else.

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