The Monster Squad / Lookin’ For a Heartbeat

Ben and Paul stave off the Wolfmunn (has nards), Mr. Frankenstain’s Monster, The Gillman (?), Bandage Boy™️, and Alucard spelled backward just long enough to review “The Monster Squad.” (D. Fred Dekker 1987). Join us as we assemble in the clubhouse (based in the annals) for discourse on custom made shirts, intended franchises, dope one liners (you looked), and skimming over some serious stuff….but only skimming. Just barrreeely skimming.

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

Hey, asshole. You looked. We're the monster squad. Wait. No.

That's not is that right? We are We are the monster squad. We could be today. It's the review review. Spooky season.

Yeah, man. The best time. Best time of the year. Our highest listenership probably because we release so many episodes. And it's no longer a 109 degrees.

Ouch. Coming. I don't even want to It was hell on earth. I don't want I in some places it was in the, like, 1 11s. You know, it's too hot, especially It's too damn hot.

Yeah. But now, not anymore. Now we're in the thick of fall. Welcome everyone. As I mentioned, it's the review review.

What do we do here? Well, normally we have a guest. In spooky season, we do so many episodes. We don't always. This is not a guested episode.

I chose this episode for you. This episode is about the movie, The Monster Squad, but it does follow a lot of our basic rules. It's under 2 hours and 22 minutes. It's 7 years old or older. And unfortunately, for their clear intentions, this is a one off movie.

Yeah. And we're coming to you from the annals today. We're deep in the annals again, man. Which last time we did the annals, we were it was another vampire based movie. It was.

What the fuck? The Matrix is fully coming apart. Is it is it even trying anymore? No. It's not even trying.

Their their AI has taken over completely and they're just like, ah, boop beep boop, boop, 0011. What are you trying to tell me? Ben Yeah. What you've been up to? I can dodge bullets.

It's fall. Leaves are turning. Weather is finally cooling down. There's a nice breeze in the air. You love talking about the weather.

I especially love talking about the changes of seasons. Well, and like, it's the way that you talk about it, it's like you love experiencing nature. I do. Yes. I mean, I'm from the northwest, you know.

Sure. But I especially love fall because it's football season, baby. Okay. Yeah. Sure.

And I'm back into watching football. And Yep. First time ever, I'm back into coaching. Actually, not back into. I'm first time ever coaching flag football.

Yeah. Which is a whole new bag of tricks for coach McFadden over here. I'm taking after, coach Walls, you know. Sure. Gotta.

Yeah. So Leads by example. Follow the example. Yeah. Clean the gutters.

Mhmm. You know, I teach theater. I also coach. You could go the Dan Campbell way. What?

Just be, like, a monster of a man? Tear off the kneecaps. It is spooky season. Dan Campbell is Frankenstein's monster. I mean, he he is a professional wrestler.

Right? Like, if you look at Dan Camand, like, you should after you're done coaching, you should go be a professional wrestler. Yeah. And I would watch it. Yeah.

Theater, man. Theater. Yeah. He gets it. And you know talking about theater football this season?

So many narratives, so much theatrics. It's crazy what has already happened in the short amount of time we've been watching. Oh, yeah. And one of the things I don't want to make this a football podcast. But one of the things that I'm starting to really notice is since they took a preseason game away, many teams aren't even playing any other starters during preseason.

And so the first games of the season are very often that player's first time on the field in game time. And we're seeing that happen in real time because so many teams are coming out and you're like, the fuck is this? I feel like in the past, by, like, week 3 or 4, I was like, okay. These are the teams that are probably pretty good. These are the teams that are not as good.

Yeah. And now I feel like I've had a harder time understanding who's who, what's what. Tuning up has gone away. I mean, if you look at last year, right, Kansas City didn't look great through 5, 6, 7 games of the season. They looked fine.

Mhmm. And then, like, towards the end of the season, it was just like, oh, they found a groove. They got it. And that sometimes takes that time now, which I feel like is different. Teams don't come out hot anymore.

Do you feel like it's a little more like baseball now where you hit a specific stride at a specific time? Is that maybe it? Like a almost like a battle of attrition. Like, you Kinda. I mean, it kind of is.

Right? Because it's such a physical sport. Mhmm. It's a long season, man. And I know it only feel it feels unlike baseball, you don't have 6 games a week or whatever.

But Right. But injuries are so prevalent and still are prevalent in the NFL. And so, like There's so many hot button things that we could talk about about that. But Yeah. Again, this is not a football podcast.

No. We do have a football podcast. Review the play review. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Is this this is a we thing. Yeah. You can listen to us. It's just us. Oh.

We don't record it. We're just having coffee, whatever. You can come and sit. We have banter on various threads. It's me, Paul.

Matthew Foskett. Yeah. And the burrito. There you go. People would people would listen to that.

They they maybe would. What you've been up to? I doubt. No. Maybe they would.

Maybe they would. I am falling into the same thing falling into the same thing that you are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, I'm gearing up for soup season. I gotta focus. I'm shifting the soup mode. I'm excited about it.

Sweater and soup? I like to put on the thicker shirts, more of the sweatshirts. Yeah. And the darker color rainbow of shoes that I have, the rainbow of different blacks that I have? This is Midnight.

This is Onyx. Are they in a bunch of Adidas boxes like Dracula is hoarding in this movie? So I I love the product placement. I have a lot of questions about that. The clear product placement of this movie, Pepsi.

They're just stealing Adidas? Are they for Wolfman? They're sneaky. They need them. Who are they for?

For sneaking. Frank's not mine. Resell. I don't know. Break dancing?

So this is a monster, like, black market shoe. I think this is the beginning of it. Oh, it got that. I don't know. Again, we get this singular story.

Maybe by movie 3, we were gonna be getting to that point where that was really gonna pay off and we were robbed Yeah. As an audience and I'm a little upset about it. But I'm gonna keep gearing up for soup season. Mhmm. I'm really enjoying it.

And I also have been reading our text line. Text line. Oh, people been texting us? No shit. Are you ready?

I'm prepared. Are you? Yeah. You're look at me. You're sure?

I think so. Because I gave you an opportunity to hear this before now. So now it's happening. You did. Please tell Ben to stop snacking on the pod.

If he's not going to give snacks to Cher, then no snacking should be had. Did you send that? No. It was from Anaheim. Do you do you have So no more peanut butter M and M's, Ben?

I no. We've discussed this. I apologize for the peanut butter M and M's. I couldn't even listen to that episode. It was just it was just like, who is a pig cracking those shells?

Again, getting their snickers stepped on. Hey, his name is Horus. Oh, sorry. But I just when you and I talked about that, I was like, fucking imagine editing it. Do you do you do you you don't know who sent that?

No. No idea? No. That's hilarious. That's very funny.

I'm I'm, I publicly apologize for what we are now calling M and M gate. You're absolved. Okay. I'll ask you this. Well, in the spirit of spooky season Oh.

I've been watching the, AMC series, An Interview with the Vampire. The Interview with the Vampire. Yes. And I'm absolutely loving it. I haven't read I haven't read any of Anne Rice books.

I did date a girl named Anne Rice. Okay. So it's you're Jason. So I'm basically an expert. Sphere.

But I I I mean, I think we've all seen the Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt movie. Many times. I enjoy that movie. I think it's pretty good. This is, like, far superior.

No doubt. And the adaptations they make to make Louis a black man from the South and his family being, you know, his family in set in Saint Louis, it's so good. Eric Bogosian Mhmm. Isn't it? He plays the he plays the reporter.

Okay. The Christian Slater part. The guy who plays Louie is from from, the Game of Thrones. He plays the Grey Worm in Game of Thrones. And I don't know who the guy is at Playlistat.

I've never seen him before, but he's fucking incredible. Is he, as far as you can tell, the horniest person you've seen on television? Yes. I mean, yeah, he's nailing it. He is nailing it.

Like, he wants to fuck everything that walks. Yeah. He looks like he's, you know A little like Rutger Hauer? A little bit. Yeah.

A little bit like a young because that's what he's supposed to look like, is a young Rutger Hauer? Yeah. A little bit. He's blonde, chiseled jaw. Mhmm.

But, man oh, and Claudia? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Kirsten Dunstroll.

Kirsten Dunstroll is also played by I don't know her name, but, like, a young black woman. Because it's such a southern gothic story and, like, the history obviously of of, being black in America, but being black in the south in America and seeing now they are eternal. It just brings that extra level. Through every year, every generation, they've seen it all. Yeah.

Know it all for at sight. Yeah. Yeah. Through experience. That's interesting.

I highly recommend. Okay. And also on Netflix, I watched with former guests Moses Olsen and Dave Marino. I watched Rebel Jason. Oh.

I love Saul in the Amen. I love Green Room. Blue Ruin. Have you seen Blue Ruin? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With Macon Blair. That fucking a that what a third act of him.

I highly recommend Redwood Ridge. Well written movie. Okay. Yeah. Go on.

It's just we were talking about the Moses and I were talking about this. You don't have a lot of filmmakers, writer, writer, director working in such different genres. Mhmm. Because Green Room is very clearly a horror. Rebel Ridge is like it's like a slow burn action, you know.

Cool. I I said at one point, Tony Scott would love this movie. Question. Yeah. Is there a level where the 3rd act kind of not to the level of the guest or in the direction of the guest, but where it things just kinda go nuts?

There is there is a climactic moment. If I have one actual issue with the movie is that I felt like towards the end of the 3rd act, it fizzled. Oh. That would be my only real Could have gone further. I think it Okay.

Could have. But I think he also was subverting that purposefully Okay. In a weird way because it's because it is action and he it feels more grounded than most movies I've seen. Awesome. And it has these moments of, Jack Reacher esque stuff.

It has these moments of First Blood and Don Don Jonasance man. Yeah. We're still in the midst of it. We're still in the Don Jonasance. No one's talking about never be over.

No one's talking about the Don Jonasance. They don't have to anymore because it's not happening anymore, but it's never over in my heart. Dude, him and knives out. Goddamn. Goddamn.

I went back and watched some Dennis Hopper movie. He did, like, the hot spot or something. I don't know where he plays, like, a car salesman and, like, young Jennifer Connelly. And, like, I don't know. It's it's not like the greatest, but it's, like, supposed to be, like, akin to, like, a throwback noir or whatever.

And I was like, yeah, man. Don Johnson. Don Johnson. What a career too. I like him.

You know? Yeah. TV, film, like, he just yeah. He does it all. Yeah.

He's kinda covered most of the gamut too in terms of the types of roles or what you could have possibly done in terms of career. It's like you watch Harley Davidson in the Marlboro man or whatever, and you're like, what is Simon Windsor, like, supposed to take place in a future wasteland type action movie with motorbikes and shit. Yeah. I don't know. But again, like what you were saying, he's just covered the fucking gamut.

Yeah. Yeah. What are you, Paul? What you what you've been watching? I would like to just say right up front.

Okay. As we're talking about motorbike movies. Mhmm. There's a movie starring Seahawks first round draft pick, linebacker out of Oklahoma number 44, Brian Bosworth, starring that gentleman. Okay.

Co starring in a tour de force, mister Lance Henriksen, movie star Oh. Very big in Germany. Yeah. It's called Stone Cold. There's a great HDTGM episode on it.

It's, like, the anti anti action movie. You know how I love this shit and we've talked about now we've already talked about the guest and all this other stuff that I like. And it's just a movie that Michael Douglas secretly produced that is, like, a send up of all these eighties action movies where dudes are invincible, and Brian Bosworth fails at every fucking turn. And at the end, it's like playing rock music, and he's, like, walking away the victor. And it's like, the entire state supreme court was just murdered.

Like, what the fuck is this? I have never heard of this movie. It's free on YouTube. Just type stone cold Brian Bosworth. It's a great way to spend an hour and 38 minutes.

It's a 3 and a half, Komodo dragons with a heart for me. It's one of the great, great, great bad movies. Okay. Lance Henriksen improved almost all of his dialogue as well as William Forsyth. And there's a part where he talks about, if you drop my motorbike gang's colors, I'll cut off your skin with a knife dipped in dog shit.

And I'm like, wow. That's something that, like, a weird motorbike creepo would say. Great job, Lance Henriksen. Give this movie the fucking Academy Award. Also, Gilmore Girls.

Okay. Rewatched the pilot. Have never watched the whole show all the way through. Have watched pieces and been like, this is good. I like what Amy Sherman Paladino does.

The Luke and Lorelei thing that or even in the pilot, it's like, well, clearly these people are supposed to end up together at some point. Yeah. It's motorbikes. Motorbike. Holy what?

Again, the matrix is not tracking. We are in the annals, so that's why it might sound weird down here. It might sound a little strange. And if you can't hear the motorbike, you will anyway. But, yeah, Gilmore Girls really really enjoyed it.

Funny, snappy. It feels like a good autumnal watch as well. And is helping me into soup season. Yeah. I gotta focus.

I'm shifting the soup mode. Yeah. Gilmore Girls got, like, kinda pushed into this and rewatched it and had a great time. As The motorcycle rides on. Yeah.

Warner Brothers lot. You can see all the Gilmore Girl locations. As it's now at Netflix as a show. Mhmm. Pretty sure.

Did they still shoot at Warner Brothers though? I think they did. I'm sure. I'm almost sure of the idea. We've talked about what we've been doing.

Mhmm. We've talked about what we're watching. What's next? I forgot. Just the facts.

Oh, okay. Archaeology is the search for facts. I, I'll I'll tell you this for free. Well, what we did watch is the Monster Squad. It is a Taft Entertainment bearish production.

PG 13 1987, 1 hour and 22 minutes. Unless you watch this on Pluto TV, which has commercials, and then it's an hour and 42 minutes. Oh, at least I'm sure. For me, it was Pluto TV. Yep.

And, yeah, had a good amount of that. And also, Taft Barish, aren't these the fine people that brought us the running man? Oh, are they? Yeah. Wow.

Woah. They didn't they didn't bring us dairy based laxatives. That's actually why they went under. Those things weren't working well. They extended from filmmaking into dairy based laxatives.

We have a dairy based is it just for lactose? It's just gonna bind people up. No. We've put a lot of money in this. I think you guys have invested poorly.

This is not gonna work out for you. The budget on this movie is 12,000,000 adjusted is 33.2, which nothing gets made for anymore. No. Opening weekend, August 16th. Sorry, Paul.

Almost my 30th birthday present. August 16, 1987. We made 1,900,000 in the US. So that's less than 20% of the that's That's not that's not good. That's not possible.

It's not good. And also, August, odd choice for release for this movie. I don't understand why you don't go at least late September. Late September or early October. Yeah.

Bullish. Really clearly pretty intent on a franchise. Yeah. Did you see that Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was the biggest I think the biggest September opening? It was some crazy fucking amount of money.

I know that. Yeah. Because most big budget movies don't release past August anymore unless it's a horror. Can yeah. Can we agree really quick?

Please. Wino forever. Wino forever? Oh, my lord. Wino forever.

What was the adjusted budget, Ben? It was 5.2 million. That's still Still not good. That's still not good. Final gross North America, 3.7, not great.

Adjusted 10.2. Final gross worldwide, same as above. So I guess it didn't get a worldwide release. So it didn't get okay. There wasn't a a worldwide love.

Okay. Other releases this date, can't buy me love, no way out, Disorderlies. Weekend Top 5, Stakeout, The Living Daylights, Can't Buy Me Love, No Way Out, La Bamba. This number finished in the top 10. Top 5 films this year, domestic, Beverly Hills Cop 2, Platoon, Fatal Attraction, The Untouchables, and 3 Men and a Baby.

There's a ghost in that movie. In 3 Men and a Baby? Yep. Where? Google it.

Okay. In a window. Everybody, you heard you heard it from Paul first. Google the ghost in 3 Men and a Baby. It's the child's actual dad.

Whoopsie. Okay. Well, you're randomly back everyone. Other films from 1987, The Lost Boys, vampers were on the mind, I guess. We shall not fall, bro.

Predator, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3, The Dream Warriors, like father, like son, inner space. Whoopsie. Project X, Angel Heart. Another horror movie with naughty people, stabby stabby. Letterboxd's average for this movie is 3.4.

Follow us on Letterboxd. I'm not at Paulax badly. I'm not at Run VMC. I would never be. No.

Me neither. That's stealing your soul. Yeah. It's not good. Sucking my soul.

It's not good. Don't suck my soul, Paul. All that stuff is bad. IMDB gives a 6.9 out of 10. 69 dudes.

Rotten Tomato, 56%. The newly titled popcorn meter, which used to be the Audience meter? Audience meter. Yeah. 78%.

I'm just adding that because there was no siskel in Ebert. That's fine. There's no siskel in Ebert. Metacritic, 61. Major wins and nominations, 4 Saturn Award nominations including best music.

And I just have to say this is a genre movie and the Saturn Awards are very important. I can't wait to hear about your high score in this movie. Again, about the movie being bullish and and the music, there were specific soundtrack songs made for and about the world of this movie. Yeah. Which only really happened around like franchise tentpole type things at that point.

Or intended franchise tentpoles. The director of this film is Fred Dekker, Night of the creeps and the jet pack laden, samurai sorted, Robocop 3. Writers of this film are Fred Dekker, the predator, Robocop 3, starring Rip Torn and Shane Black, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Iron Man 3, The Nice Guys. Are you an Iron Man 3 guy? I would say I like Iron Man 3 more than I like Iron Man 2.

I weirdly love Iron Man 2. I think we've talked about this a tiny bit. Just I mean, I like I like Sam, Sam. My brain just collapsed. Sam Rockwell?

Sam Rockwell. Yeah. Yeah. Iron Man 2. I think he's pretty great.

I don't know. I think, you know, Iron Man 3 really starts to fall into the classic Shane Black. Yeah. Stuff. And It's just got an iron skin on it.

Yeah. The Mandarin thing is a weird choice. Mhmm. I also really like that the comic storyline of the oh, my God. We just lost power.

It is Saturday 14th. How can we get the lights back up? I'm pooping. I'm pooping. Okay.

Anyway I can't poop in the dark. Yeah. Iron Man 3, it's okay, I guess. Yeah. I agree.

It's it's okay. It's cool to look at at times. Very cool. Director of photography, on that note, of this film was Bradford May. Dark man 2, the return of Durant.

Dark man 3, die dark man die and Devil's Prey. Music was Bruce Broughton, who really brought in the fucking score to this movie. I agree with the very important Saturn Award nomination of this genre film. This is a fantasy genre film, and a Saturn Award is an important thing. And it deserved the best music now because he brought in it.

It was very good. Young Sherlock Holmes, another excellently scored movie. Stay Tuned, which was produced by Peter Himes. I love the stage. Shot by Peter Himes.

I saw that. Another greatly scored movie, and so do I. 3a half? I'd probably give that. I've yeah.

That's a regular rotation 3a half for me. One of those special 3a half's. Like, do we have this in common? And guess what else the music go? Fucking Tombstone.

Wow, man. That's impressive. This guy's good. Yeah. This guy's brought in the goods.

Producers Keith Barish, the running man. Peter Hiams, running scared from 86. And 2010, the year we make contact, a not bad sequel. A not bad sequel. I'm saying it again not only because I bumped the mic shield but because that is a wild thing to say about the sequel in Fasm.

And also, listen to our Running Man episode. You should. You should, also know that Rob Cohen produced this movie, directed The Fast and the Furious, and he produced Dragon the Bruce Lee story. Or if you look at my letterbox as that is a very entertaining movie, I think it says, Liberty's a biopic flick. That was my new title for it.

Andre Gower played our 1st Super Sean of spooky season. The Demons Within, retro freaks changeover. Robbie Kiger played Patrick. Children of the Corn, like a fox. Table for 5, Steven Macht.

Del, dad. Graveyard shift, outside the law, agent red. Brett Chalam, r I p, played Horace. Punky Brewster, Small Wonder, Quantum Leap, Tom Noonan, he's back. Tom Noonan, baby.

He's back. Thank you, Wade Courteau. Mhmm. Yeah. Wade Courteau wants you to know Tom Newman Newnan fucking rules.

He was Frankenstein's monster, Manhunter, Heat, and Last Action Hero, which you can hear on this podcast. Duncan Reiger played Dracula, Time Master, Air Bud, World Pup, and The Last Samurai from 1990? Sure. What the fuck? That's a movie I would revisit.

I didn't realize that that movie and Shogun were based is the same book. Oh, I didn't know that. I haven't watched Shogun yet. I know I need to. But Shogun is, like, more, I guess, representative, and Last Samurai is a white savior story.

But, yeah, it doesn't make it a bad movie. The Paul Mooney joke about The Last Samurai, and that whole what you just mentioned, like, the white savior angle of it or whatever is fucking hilarious. People should revisit that if they choose. This movie also starred Mary Ellen Trainor, RIP. She was Emily, mom.

She was in Die Hard, The Goonies, and Lethal Weapon, the whole shebang bang. Whole shebang. Ryan Lambert played Rudy, The Demons Within, Wrecker, and Freeze Frame. Ben? Yes.

I wanna have some fucking fun, finally. But before that, there's one person I feel like we haven't mentioned who's involved in this movie. I want you to mention who I think you're gonna mention. Stan Winston, baby. In what capacity?

What do you mean? He did makeup and special effects. Oh, I didn't know if you were gonna mention that or if you were gonna mention that the wolf man was modeled after him. Oh, I didn't know that. But Stan Winston is one of the greats.

RIP. Dude, we're gonna go over the incredible practical effects of this film, especially considering budget and considering a lot of things. But I'm so glad you mentioned that. I also wanna mention John Grice, who is in Real Genius and in White Lotus plays Wolfman, and he's fucking fantastic in this movie. He's so good.

Let's get to the fun facts. Fun facts fun facts everybody. It's fun fact time. There are at least 2 versions of Michael Cymbello's end credit song and some versions dating back to VHS release days. Well, I know what I'm gonna spend my winter doing VHS on them now.

You should. BCRs are crazy expensive now. Yeah. Especially if you can find them with, like, clean heads that are, like, unused or replaced and, like, running well. I love clean head.

Oh, geez. Oh, gosh. I'm such a perv. In 2006 jokes. In 2006, wizard magazine made a list of the 100 greatest villains of all time.

Dracula was ranked as number 30 on the list. Dracula from this week. And this Dracula specifically. I mean, that's a very specific. It's like a fantasy based.

It's it's good. It's fantasy, but it's good. It's it's a high rate. It's a genre magazine. But then, you know Have you become a caricature of yourself?

A little. Okay. I'm a caricature of a caricature. Seth Green screen tested for a role and even read with Andre Gower who was cast as Sean. Ashley Bank, plays Phoebe, was offered the daughter role in Fatal Attraction that was turned down in favor of this film.

So that in Fatal Attraction did better than this? I think so. Yeah. It said what it say was the what grossing? We don't need to revisit that.

Oh, wow. Yeah. No. It's very different situation. Okay.

Ryan Lambert who plays Rudy, my cat, is an ordained Lutheran minister and officiated actor Frank Stallone's wedding. Oh, wow. You got it. Alright. You know, I'm an I'm an ordained officiant of the Universal Life Church.

Okay. Was that is that, like, $18 or is that $30? I think it was, like, 30 or something like that. I don't know if I'd pay more than 40. Yeah.

Okay. But I had to officiate my sister's wedding. So Had to. Gotta get that license. Gotta do it.

The brief scene where the monster meets Phoebe playing by the water is an homage to a similar scene in the original 1931 Frankenstein film. The way in which the scene plays out in this film is, according to previous interviews, more in line with the way Boris Karloff wanted to do the scene in the 1931 original. Also, like Interesting. I think a famous scene from the book as well. There's a bunch of shit in this movie that and I'm gonna try to do my best to not, like, point it out all the time, but there's so many fucking homages to classic Universal movies throughout this movie all the time without the blatant just like monster usage.

Lots of shit. Are you gonna do, Leo Every time you there's 1? There it is. There it is. Universal did not release the rights to Taff Barish to use their dark universe classic horror monsters.

This resulted in a Gill man instead of creature from the black lagoon, a wolf man inspired by effects legend Stan Winston. Frankenstein's monster with head instead of neck bolt and a Dracula that blows shit up. That's a decision. He just like manifest dynamite. Man, they're stealing my my ranking.

Am I? You didn't have to tell. I didn't know. Well, now We're about to find out for this. You might have to change it.

Well, I guess this episode is brought to you by Taff Barish dairy based laxative? Taff Barish dairy based laxatives. Do they work? I don't know. There's a reason we went on there.

You'll be It wasn't the running man. It wasn't this movie. It was a different decision entirely. We picked a direction. I wanted to be the running man, but instead it wasn't running.

It was I was the stuck man. I was stuck. I was the bound up man. Nothing was running. I'll tell you that.

What's the log line, Paul? Oh, man. I did choose this movie. Oh, my god. Power's out.

Power's out. Lights are off. I'm stuck in the annals. We're gonna get blown up by Dracula. Yeah.

That should be one of the last things you're worried about with Dracula. Right? I guess, the end of this movie. If I can log line this movie in the dark. You know me?

The log line of this movie is a group of young horror enthusiasts are charged with the task of protecting their town and thus the world from the invasion of Dracula and his team of evil monsters intent on dominating it. Dracula teams up with classic movie monsters, Frankenstein, Wolfman, and Swamp Thing to Wes Craven Swamp Thing? Take, Creech from Black Lagoon to attempt to take over a small suburban town, where a group of kids who call themselves the monster squad must combat their evil. You ready for the real one? I am.

A group of 12 year olds, I guess, like, 11 10 or 11 before I really paid attention. Yeah. Whatever. 12. It's very it's very Goonies esque.

Oh, yeah. A group of 12 year olds form a universal monsters fan club called Monster Squad and have to attempt to save their hometown from Count Dracula and his monsters when they show up for real. Alright. You are closer. I guess.

I mean, that log line is I don't know. There are even a couple that are listed here that might be better. But that's the top one. That's where I'm gonna go with it. We're gonna stick with it.

We're stuck with it. We're stuck here. We're not running anywhere. We're also stuck in the dark, apparently. Yeah.

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We're back. We're covered. We're clear. We're unstuck. We're ready for a round.

1 on 1 genophile. Do you you know, you haven't picked 1 in a while, so why don't you go Oh, yeah? Why don't you finger it? I oh. I don't mind the sound of that.

Is that wrong? Am I a bad person? You cannot become too unstuck right now. I need you to stay calm. Okay.

It's Harrison Ford. Coming to a The movie is working, girl. Go. I'm gonna take the high or the low hanging fruit and go Raiders of the Lost Ark. Okay.

Temple of Doom. Last Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Star Wars episode 4, A New Hope.

Star Wars episode 5, Empire Strikes Back. Star Wars episode 6, Return of the Jedi. This is stupid. It's not. Star Wars episode 7, The Force Awakens.

Presumed Innocent. Star Wars episode 9, The Rise of Skywalker. Somehow Palpatine returns. The fugitive. Mhmm.

Should've seen the look on my face, audience, when I took that from him. Air Force 1. Witness. We'll go with What Lies Beneath. Captain America New World Order.

That hasn't come out yet. I don't get to pick that. I think that's fair if I don't get to pick it. I don't think that. Okay.

6 days, 7 nights. Okay. Patriot Games. The Mosquito Coast. Oh, that's such a good movie.

I haven't seen it in a 1000000 years. I don't wanna lose this one. I'm taking it. I'm taking it. Okay.

That's fine. I do I get it? Sure. I can I do I cinch it at least? Close to danger.

Extraordinary measures. Was that with Brendan Fraser? That's with Cornish's favorite son. Yeah. Let's admit it.

Clear and Present Danger. That would have been one of the ones because I you said Patriot Games. Right? Does ET count? It should.

Yeah. I think that's fair because you get the voice anyway. Yeah. That was a good round. What lies beneath is such a great use of Ford.

Dude, the idea that the past haunting you and not being able to escape it. And he's such a likable guy. He is. That subversive and that when he becomes like full on monster at the end, it's Solid Zemeckis. Oh, yeah.

When in the end, it's about self preservation. Yeah. Yeah. It's a solid movie. I should rewatch that.

I mean, we're in spooky season. I'm excited about having a I'm kinda bummed I lost that. Super Shans. I'm pretty bummed. Was it not a good round?

I thought it was a great round. Well You're like, this is stupid. I was like, no. This is great. Yeah.

No. It was a good You busted a Last Skywalker on me too. Yeah. He makes a weird appearance in that where he's not a force ghost. He's a memory.

I don't It's weird. We don't need to Somehow Palpatine survived. Someone wrote that. Fuck. Someone wrote that and went, you know what?

That's what's his name? We gotta write something. Chris fuck. What's his name? He did BVS too.

Oh, shit. I know who you're talking about. Yeah. Nah. Tell me your stories.

I had never seen this movie, Paul. That excites me, clearly. This is the first time I had ever seen Monster Squad. I thought I saw this movie and then I saw the poster and I was conflating it with little monsters. Oh, that happens more often than I knew when I told people we were gonna record this.

Yeah. I mean, similar time frame. Yeah. Ish. But one is Howie Mandel and Fred Savage and has, like, people drinking pee.

And it's not this one. You'd you'd swear I would have picked it. Yeah. So this was my first viewing. It was a nice midday autumnal watch.

Mhmm. It's got the vibe. It has the total vibe. And it made me sad that I hadn't seen this movie when I was young because I know how much young Ben would have just, like, wanted to be part of this group and, like, would have loved this movie. I think, like, the I mean, we'll talk about the practicals and the costumes and the makeup.

They're iron proof. They're rock solid. They it really captures the magic of being a kid the Goonies magic of want being a kid in a group saving the world. You know? I think I was trying to think of what filled this gap for me at this in sort of a similar vibe and spooky season esque.

And it was probably Hocus Pocus. Okay. That was probably because I watched that movie a lot when I was a kid. But I really wish I had seen this. I I give this for Dracula Dynamites.

I'm so fucking delighted right now. Yeah? I'm so delighted right now. Did you not expect that? I kind of similar to what I've been trying to do when I choose movies, I don't wanna anticipate exactly what you're gonna think about it.

I wanna bring something that may surprise and delight you or may kind of maybe annoy you. I'm not gonna lie. Okay. I couldn't imagine this movie annoying you or you not being kind of enamored with it. So I had high hopes for this, and I'm glad that those hopes were met.

Yeah. So I gotta try to okay. I do maybe I should try to bring something that will actually annoy you and back up that statement. It's no fun. Maybe it will be.

So this movie also is somebody who saw this movie at a young age, saw this before I saw The Goonies. Mhmm. Saw this before I understood or could conceptualize what the fuck exactly Dungeons and Dragons was or play the game Werewolf or Yeah. What have you. I clearly, Stranger Things had never been thought of.

Yeah. And I probably have watched this every couple years since every couple few years. There's a couple years where I probably watched it a ridiculous amount. And this was always 3 and a half nards for me. Like, one of those didn't drop or surgery is gonna be required.

Something stuck in there. 3 and a half nards. Rewatching this movie, like, trying to get, like, you know, watching with a friend, like, getting them hyped up. I'm trying to get you hyped up. 40 minutes in, like, passes out.

And I'm like, well, fuck. I'm like kind of alone on the journey. Ultimately, like, I'll watch this movie by myself in a group. Well, I don't care. I absolutely adore this movie, and I love the character journeys that kind of happen.

Mhmm. But I also kind of don't love some of the things that it kind of happened or seem serious that are never really wrapped up. And it's just like, assume we'll go over it in maybe the second movie or you'll figure it out. Like, I don't know. I can't agree with you more as you've, like, heaped I heaped a lot of praise on the score at first.

You've heaped a lot of praise on the practical effects. They're absolutely staggering. Yeah. They hold up so well. Even just the way the big thing in this movie is an amulet.

And even the way that they stage and light and make that amulet kind of look, it's it's so fantastic. The movie is lit generally kind of weird. But ultimately, everything, man, I it's framed so boy, I don't know if there was anything when I was a kid that made me feel you said, like, autumnal vibes or you wish you'd said it as you were young. This was my gateway to horror. And so it's almost hard not to give it, like, this crazy nostalgic, like, 5 score.

So it's gonna almost hard to keep me from going even higher, higher than you could even anticipate me ever going. Am I my own guess? 4.25 is okay or no? 4? Because I can't go higher than 4.

You know I can't. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm at the 4. I can't wait to talk to you about this movie.

We should start it. Four nards? Four nards. Alright. Let's start the movie.

Wolfman nards. Wolfman's got nards. God damn movie. Strike the movie. Strike the movie.

And now, our feature presentation. Life as a house. So it's funny to me that we start with this, scroll that gives us the exposition because then they just show us the exact same thing that they're Yeah. Explaining in the scroll. They're like, in case you didn't get it and this is the thing about this movie.

This is for, like, mostly I'd say, like 7 to 14 year old boys. Mhmm. It's yeah. Yeah. Totally.

And I love the tagline at the end of the crawl, which is they blew it. So great, man. That does make me wanna see that story though. Like, they blew it. How'd they blow it?

And they did the classic improv rule of like, okay, you said they blew it. Show me. You blew it. You blew it. And the I don't, you know, it's seems like a group of well-to-do citizens are just trying to keep these people from eating their pets.

That's what it seems like to me. They're eating their armadillos. They're eating their cats. That is happening. And like, Van Helsing has gotten involved with this whole thing.

Like, they're local We should really look into that. We should really look into that. We gotta get some people in that in that place. We gotta get them to travel back through time, through the vortex, whatever it takes to get to that dimension and save themselves. People shouldn't be eating those armadillos.

Oh, God. It's so odd that they have those in there too. That was the first shot we're seeing these armadillos. I'm like Yeah. Are armadillos, like, from Transylvania?

What do we I don't think they are. They're like desert animals. Are they like yeah. Like deserty US? I don't think immigrants are eating your armadillos.

I guess. Van Helsing comes through, like, to try and help, and he fucking blows it. Like, it's throwing the torch into limbo. Yeah. The virgin girl who's reading and it has to be a girl?

It has to be a virgin. I don't know. Does it ever specify? Well, because if it has to be a virgin, all of those boys are virgins. Yeah.

No problem. So I don't think Rudy? No. Is do you think Rudy is? I think so.

You think so? Yeah. I think he wants to fuck, but he hasn't fucked. He is leather jacket though. He's cool.

He's leather jacket. He's pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, just like my cats, pretty cool. Yeah.

But he's he's boots. Mhmm. That motherfucker is boots. Yeah. Like, it's part of him.

Yeah. They get sucked into that vortex and then we jump into modern day suburban America. Yeah. We the we find out that they need this amulet that that gets thrown into somewhere or whatever. That's how you stop.

Stops Dracula and all these bad guys from taking over the world and there are only so many opportunities. It's almost like Mortal Kombat. I don't know. The rules are a little muddy. The rules are muddy.

The science is soft, but it's fun and it doesn't matter. If you're at that age range we said especially or if you're a person who's just like, I wanna get into an autumnal vibe and watch something that I can make my soup to or put my sweater on. Yeah. Great. Enjoy.

Eat my armadillo. Side note, this is, like, really early days of PG 13. I swore up and down this was a PG movie and didn't find out till after Yeah. That it was PG 13. And I was like, oh, shit.

Yeah. That makes sense. Because Temple of Doom was 85 or 86. Or 6. Yeah.

Red Dawn Was the first one that was rated PG 13. I think so. It was 86. I think so. This must be in the early days of PG 13, but it hits that rating zone.

Oh, for sure. Like so I mean, as the aforementioned 2 do as well. Yeah. And so we get the lead kid, which I don't know his name, but Sean. Okay.

One of our super Sean's. I want to call him Mike just because I think that's He seems like a Mike. Goonies, probably. Yep. Stranger Things has done that to us.

Oh, and Stranger Things. Also, did you see the Goonies 2 rumor that was circulating? And I everybody who sent me the article was, like, I don't think that's real. Wait for Variety. Yeah.

Always. Hollywood Reporter Variety. And then Variety came out and was, like, that's not real. Nope. It's not happening.

Nope. Thank God. Rely on the publicists. They shall guide thee. Also, thank God.

And the g o d, small g. G. Because if Small g. Nobody wants to get Corey Feldman back on screen. Have you seen his music?

It's not Seagal level. 1 to it's somewhere it's a direction away from it, and you can choose what direction you feel. Yeah. I'll let you experience some of the Steven Seagal music. You can experience some of the Corey Feldman music and and text us about it.

While you're stuck on the toilet and you're looking at your phone, just look up Corey Feldman music. So As we're talking about things to be concerned about in the world, the spider that is drawn with a human head that eats dogs Oh, yeah. Eats cats, rats. They're eating dogs. They're eating cats.

They're eating everybody out here. I'm telling you. Protect protect your family. Good God. So on the note of protection, Horace, just trying to enjoy Snickers, man.

Also, is the moral of this that we shouldn't listen to our science teachers because monsters are real? Oh, boy. Wow. That's a that's a long podcast because that's a nuanced answer. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Because they're, you know, they're grounded in a level of reality, obviously. I anyway. Yeah.

So Stuck on? A Stuck on. Stuck. Yeah. A version of Chunk from Goonies.

Right. So many proto Yeah. He's getting bullied by the kid from, Wonder Years. Wonder Years. Jason Hervey.

And from, Christmas Story. In in He's a Christmas story. Right? Isn't he a bully in the Christmas story? He might be one of the side bullies.

Yeah. I think you're right. In, like, the raccoon hat or something. 1 of Scott Farkas' little cronies. Yeah.

I thought he was. Yeah. And I know he's wearing Fred Savage's Walter Payton jersey from Princess Bride in this movie. Probably not. But they both wear that and they're both in.

I'm surprised there's no Savage's. The Matrix isn't trying. No. Not at all. Are you freaked out by this?

Is this spooky to you? I'm spooked. I'm a little spooked. We're also on the annals and the power could go out at any minute. It it will almost guaranteed.

And at any moment, as poor horse is getting bullied by these kids, and similar to Heather's, I said, like, they're really good in the eighties, I think, specifically. Because the nineties is I feel way more haphazard. Ugly characters, nasty characters use nasty, ugly language Yeah. As a weapon. Yeah.

And they make it really clear in this movie that that is not okay. It's like Rudy fucking Fonzies, like, fucking Josh Grolands Inn. Oh, for sure. And he's wearing the leather jacket because he is very leather jacket. And those sweet shades.

Those dope fucking, like, Wayfair, like, knock off Wayfairs. Which is what are cool now. Timeless. Timeless jacket, timeless shoes. And he forces that bully to eat, stomped Snickers.

That he stomped on. Which is really just gonna stick it's gonna stick inside you. It's gonna Oh. Bind you up. Little pebbles, maybe a bug or 2 in there.

And then we learn a couple of kids, in this dope ass tree house have Oh, yeah. It's so cool. This club called the monster squad. And they invite Rudy to join. And he's gotta take a monster test for that.

And during this whole thing in the that tree house is very cool. He's also George McFly and up there perving up on Yep. There's some pervy kind of peep show and Yeah. Kinda peeping town shit going on. And they do the super classic monster thing of, like, oh, these coffins are being transported somewhere Yeah.

Or whatever's going on. Oh, yeah. And Which the mummy Tom Cruise mummy stole from this movie. Absolutely. From this movie.

Every movie that does this, you stole it from this even if you predate this. You stole it from this movie. Have we talked about the nightmare of the dark universe on this podcast? Or the attempts? Very briefly, I know casting was potentially, like, Russell Crowe, Johnny Depp, very very big people.

Javier Bardem. Very big people. But it seems like they're giving they're handing it to or a version of it to Les Renault. Is that his name? Oh, I don't know.

Because he did he did the, Invisible Man. Okay. Yeah. He's doing the new Wolfman. Okay.

Right. I don't know if it's gonna be a joint thing, but it seems like he's kind of taking on some of the universal monster properties. That's great. My assumption was that that was gonna end up being Blumhouse. It's Blumhouse produced.

Well, I'm so glad that you said the Invisible Man, Wolfman. I enjoyed Invisible Man. Oh, me too. Me too. It's built, so I really like Aldous Hodge on the movie.

I think that's a rewatch. I need to rewatch that. Well built well built movie. Last movie you saw before COVID. COVID, Same year before And the lights just went out.

Oh my good god. You said COVID. I did. And the timing on that. Timing.

Just the timing lately. It's crazy. So the Monster Airlines thing and the vampire transitions to the bat. Monster Airlines. Monster Airlines.

And the vampire Dracula transitions to the bat. It's fine. It doesn't look that bad. I actually like it a lot. I actually kinda like that a lot.

I especially like it getting ahead of it. I like it the camera work. When they do it in shadow later. Okay. Like in later, they show it in silhouette and shadow of him, like, transitioning.

Okay. I thought that was a really great way also to sort of, like, not overdo that effect. Right. Show it in different angles, show it in different light. You could look at it and go, that looks rough.

But I think it I think it looks great, to be honest. I do too. I think so much great editing and camera work is done in this film. I feel like the lighting in the movie sometimes is like it always feels like it's I'm basing this, I guess, on Northwest time and time depending on the time of the year. It always feels like it's somewhere in the neighborhood of, like, 9:30 PM unless it's 3 PM.

Yeah. It kinda it's kind of lit like a TV movie. It's very bright Yeah. At a lot of times. I agree with that.

But they're in so are we to believe okay. First off, do they ever say what state they're in? I don't know. Because there's a swamp Right. Which told me, like, I was guessing, like, East Coast, South, like North Carolina That makes sense.

Ish. That makes sense. They drop into a swamp where also a swamp thing creature is creature with black lagoon is there. Already living there. Okay.

Or resurrected from it because Dracula showed up. Science is soft. I don't care. I don't either. Okay.

Good. You know, it's a great, like It's for kids. It's a movie for kids. You know, for kids. You know what's funny is I'm actually rewatching the Hudsucker proxy as we speak.

Like, it paused it for this Oh, woah. You know? Yeah. For kids. I haven't watched that movie other than when I was really young and barely don't even remember.

I know it's Tim Robbins. I know it's Paul Newman. I feel like it's the most absurd so far. I'm almost done with it. It's the most absurd Cohen brother.

Okay. Like, it feels almost Terry Gilliam level of absurd. Oh, I was gonna say Marky Terry Cohen. What? Marky Terry, the other brother.

Jolie. Oh, Jolie? Yeah. Oh, Jolie Markie. Jolie, Jolie, Jolie.

So, Sean's dad well, first off, his parents are obviously having issues, but Yeah. I think his dad's awesome. I actually think both of his parents are super cool, like, caring, checked in despite any issues. Like, the mom is like, hey, I thought you'd like this cool monster book that's fucking in German. Yeah.

And his dad's a cop. Yeah. Who buys burgers and sits on roofs with his kid. And When I saw him sitting on the roof near a drive in movie theater watching with binoculars, I was like, that's the life I wanted. Dude, and he had, like, the little transistor radio and And then his dad joined him.

Things. There's so many cool things in this movie that not only make sense that partly they're laissez faire about that makes them so charming. And then there are things that make no sense, that they make a really huge deal about, that they think are cool. Like, check out Jack Dracula's cool car. And you're like, Dracula has a car?

Well, and also I'm sorry. And again, if I if I'm a kid, I don't know if I like that more. But also Sean wants to go see Groundhog Day 7? Part 12. So I was very confused at first because I thought it was the Bill Murray Groundhog Day that you're talking about.

And I was like, what? And then I realized, wait. No. This predates Groundhog Day. The makers of Groundhog Day clearly saw this movie.

And And then they started talking about it as a horror movie and I was like, oh, that makes way more sense. Yeah. Is Groundhog Day with Bill Murray kind of a horror movie? On the edge of being a horror movie. Like, imagine yourself.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Think about they go to a marriage counselor, the parents. Like, the dad started smoking again because he can't take the stress of being a cop and whatever, and more monster introductions. Like, mommy showing up.

Mommy got, his mommy escaped from a museum. Of course. And his partner, the guy who plays his partner is great. Oh, my God. Yeah.

And they're always always saying like, I'm a good cop. See? Told you. I'm a good cop. Yeah.

I love that. He's so funny. But yeah. Again, like, Dracula seems to have this magic to bring monsters to him. He lands here.

He had Frank with him in the plane. Mhmm. And the swamp creature, like, comes alive. There seemed to already be a wolf man in this town. Again, yes.

And then the mummy walks out of the museum. Which is close to the I don't know that close, but probably pretty close. The wolf man is in the prison, like, lock me up, lock me up, telling them to lock him up. Yeah. And I guess they're not going to?

And it's like Dracula and the full moon? Like, do the thing to the it's gotta be both? The only thing we know for certain is that the wolf man has nards. Has nards. This is a thing that they're conversing about whether or not because they say the wolf man needs to wear pants.

He's like, why doesn't he need to wear pants? Otherwise, you would see the wolf man dork. Yeah. Is what they and it's the same conversation we have around the Hulk. Right?

Like, why does the Hulk need to have pants on? On? Because he can't have a giant green dork out there. Yeah. No.

You can't doctor Manhattan that thing the whole through the whole fucking movie. You can't handle it. No. It would be bonkers. The human eye and psyche, like, it's like So the wolf wolf man?

It's like, clearly that's actor Willem Dafoe, but something else happened. Are you famous actor Willem Dafoe? See you in 5 months, everybody. The the wolf man doing his thing and Frankenstein's monster kinda doing his thing and the mister Alucard message that Sean gets and decodes, I decoded that as he was decoding it, kind of, the first time I saw the movie. That is the one thing aside from Wolfman Hasnards, garlic burning Dracula face.

We're gonna go over all this. But there were, like, 4 or 5 moments from this movie that just, like, stuck with me. Yeah. And one of them was that Alucard thing. Like getting to, like, actually solve it along with it.

Yeah. Yeah. It made me feel like a smart kid. And they're they're putting together the pieces that there are monsters in their town. Yeah.

The creature the mummy hiding in the kid's closet? Yeah. For no real reason, I guess. He's just No. Just to do it.

He's just there. And he That's his programming. Right? His standard programming? Leaves.

Yeah. The mummy seems to be just, like, a slave to Dracula. Yeah. But Frank, although may have been at one point a slave to Dracula because he calls him master Yeah. Is able to, like, go off script and he finds the little girl, the Yeah.

Sister. He has still has some inherent humanity in, like, every version of that story. Right? The monster does? Yeah.

Yes. The monster is actually the creator. Right. Of course. The doctor the doctor.

My brother. Frankenstein. Frankenstein. How are we not done to Mel Brooks? I don't know.

I there are a few directors still. I don't want to say. You know they're doing a re release of Blazing Saddles? Yes. Perfect movie.

It is a fantastic I'm a young Frankenstein guy, but I mean, Blazing Saddles is Yeah. Yeah. A template, a foundation, like, we owe a great debt. I love this and it and Goonies. Mhmm.

Like, all of these things really sort of solidified how cool it would be to live in a small town with friends on bikes and to solve these things together. Stand by me to a degree, but that's a little bit more depressing. Yeah. But no. It it has a similar kind of camaraderie.

Yeah. Except like one of the kids has a fucking custom shirt that says Stephen King rules. Which I want that shirt. It's so cool. I I saw that, and I was like, can I buy that shirt?

I want I want that shirt. And there's also this creepy house, which always kind of shows up in all of these stories. There's a creepy house on the block Yep. Got it. Overgrown.

And they know there's a German dude who lives there that they think might be a vampire. Right. Which then at some point trickles into Home Alone, which trickles into, you know, the adults having earlier bedtimes. Okay. Here's what we've got.

The Rand Corporation in conjunction with the saucer people. Thank you. Under the supervision of the reverse vampires are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to the reverse vampires are forcing our parents to go to bed early in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We're through the looking glass here, people. This is the way that this all goes.

I mean, the burbs? Yeah. My broza. Yeah. It's a doctor.

How did Dracula, by the way, get this, like, dope house that had all this shit in it? Like the amulet's just in it? And the Adidas shoes, are in it? Yeah. They're like trap doors and shit.

And the dynamite. And also the because it's it's built on top of where the ambulance is. Right? Yeah. I don't know.

The locate again, I think the location is a parallel fucking universe. Because the first part, the flashback is definitely Transylvania. And this is not Transylvania. No. Which would make more sense.

No. It's Southern California. It's Thousand Oaks. Because, like, in hocus pocus, it's in Salem. Mhmm.

Which is why it, like, anyway, I don't care because It's in a Walgreens, the second one. Oh my god. Did you know Walgreens? Did you know there's a Walgreens in the second one? It paid for that one.

Go to Walgreens? Yeah. Walgreens. Go to Walgreens. Yeah.

Get your dairy based laxatives. Mhmm. From Walgreens. Pepsi Cola. I got the 711 3 d Doritos, your Pepsi clear.

Right. JCPenney is coming here because of me. So, yeah, they they realized German dude, not a, not a vampire. Actually, a survivor of the Holocaust. I love that little thing where he that little, exposition lot.

This movie is filled chock full of fucking great lines. Oh, yeah. And great edits, like, to button scenes. I know that can be a hot button for those who perform Yeah. For a lot of reasons.

But this buttons things really really well. The scenes are really well paced and they're really well shaped. Like, the script, Shane Black's script is really smart. Mhmm. And it moves and, we didn't move.

No. We're stuck. Yeah. Every time we do that, the power is going out. Don't worry.

We're fine. Everything's fine here. Nothing is fucked. We're not we're not trapped in the annals. You're being very undued.

Calmer than you are. The script is smart, and it moves at a clip, and it it knows exactly what it's trying to do. And now it's it's almost like we're blazing through this. Almost like we're not stuck. Dude, we're running through.

Everything is flowing. The movie knows it's well made. It's well timed. It's well edited. There's this thing about movies that are somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 to 90 minutes when they're done well.

They're almost like nothing else. They're so breezy. Yeah. And this movie where it's like German guy shows up and goes, okay. Gonna catch you up on some of the exposition, give you some new exposition, give it to the kids.

And they're immediately gonna go execute because they believe monsters are here. We're gonna start planning for this whole thing. And Frankenstein, like, falls into their lap, like, after he stumbles upon Phoebe. He's their secret weapon. He's gonna help them.

Yeah. Because they, like, train him to hang out and say bogus. Bogus. Bogus. But we also learned that Dracula is going to kill wants to kill Sean.

Specifically, Sean. Yeah. Did they ever say exactly why Sean? No. No.

I thought I missed something. No. No. Okay. In terms of yeah.

It's like this is a movie that has things where, like, a German guy who's not scary and very helpful, like, is closing a door and he's like, I know what it's like to deal with monsters. And then it shows, like, a tattoo on his wrist and you're like, oh my god. But also, like, hey. How did this happen? And it's like, I don't know.

Having fun? He was like, sometimes sometimes the tone is hard. But you gotta stop them because they're eating armadillos. They're eating cats. They're eating dogs.

He's a Dracula, man. Yeah. He survives on blood. He's not a person, Ben. Well, someone should He's not a person.

Someone should look into it. I think this movie is set in Springfield, Ohio. It could be. Send the military either way. I saw it on the TV.

I don't know. You gotta send the military in to check it out. It's it's a serious thing. It could be a Dracula. And we come into the first I caught my phone just now.

Oh my god. That was crazy. Are you a Steve Spitterman? The Matrix is falling apart. The first song in the soundtrack that was clearly written for this movie, they bring this guy Michael Sambala to do the song Rock Until You Drop.

And they do a Rocky style montage Oh, yeah. Of all these kids doing little things to be like, I contri I helped. I helped. I did my part. I've been doing my part.

I didn't do shit. I didn't do fucking shit. I fell asleep. I didn't do this. I'm not responsible for this.

I'm not because for 40 seconds I thought there were monsters in the world. I know. They put the monster. The silver bullets. Rudy's silver bullets.

Oh, so is that your favorite piece of this montage? Because I like a lot of the Rudy stuff. I love anything to do with Rudy, I'm on board. I'm on board with Rudy. He's the ultimate, like, where it's like, no.

He's a cool kid who's like, hey, fuck bullies. And like, hey, this thing you're into, I think this might be the thing and I'm gonna help you out. And he's also really into that dude's sister. Yeah. I mean, they a few of them are, but yeah.

Yeah. He's not the only one. This babe what did you say? This babe is Major. Major?

Something like that? Something very eighties. But the silver bullets. My favorite piece of that montage is the little kid who writes the letter and crayon to the military. Oh, yeah.

That says, hey, monsters are here military guys. Come help. His name's Andy. I don't give a shit. And he has the dog lick the envelope on the wrong side.

And they still use it. And they're like, by by the way, in part of prepping, we have to use the paper cutter because we need, like, business cards that say the monster squad. No phone number, no names. Yep. But we need Nothing nothing you know what's funny is at one Because kids would do that shit.

At one point when I was because it hypes you up. Around this age, my friend and I my neighbor and I started our own detective agency. Kids do this shit. And we made business cards and went around to our neighbors handing out car I remember, like, handing them out. Like, if you ever have a mystery to solve, I'm sure these neighbors were like, what the fuck, kid?

Get off my property. I think we take our podcast fame, which is widespread and great. Uh-huh. And we make much money. Much dollars, cents.

Much dollar. But we start a detective agency and do like a murder pod people love murder podcasts. Alright. We got a football podcast. We got a murder podcast.

And we'll wildly just throw out just like accusations on people. And like, here's a theory. Fuck it. That guy, he ate her dog. He ate her cat.

I'm just gonna decide right now, like, people in, I don't know, New York are killing babies after they're born. Yeah. It's like Jason Voorhees showed up all of a sudden. Oh, that was yesterday. Not to it's just one day.

It's like the end of Jason part 8. For we'll spend 6 minutes in New York. That's what we had the budget. They do mention But it will be in the title. Speaking of detectives in this, they do mention the Hardy Boys.

Like, haven't you ever seen the Hardy Boy or read the Hardy Boys when they're going to solve So good. This they're going into the murder house of the, like, mansion of Dracula. Yeah. They they've gotten, like, the the update on the stuff. The dad's gotten the update.

Like, the cops have been informed Yeah. And the whole thing. But these kids are the ones who are, like, taking ownership. Shit. We're we're just we're going for it.

We've we've now, like, blackmailed our virgin Yeah. So again, the woman we've been peeping on. Another question with that is We're ready. They never say it has to be a virgin female, but I'm pretty sure it has to be. Because in the beginning of the movie, it's a little girl and then they go with this like, it seems like it has to be a female.

I think they may say it and we just, like, missed it. Okay. Because clearly all these boys are virgins. And speaking of virgins, if you've never read Stephen King's It, I would skip it. Yeah.

Yeah. No story about virgins. I would skip reading the book. The first movie of the new one Oh my god. And the TV series is okay.

But don't look into this and don't figure out what happens at the end of the book It. Here's a question. Yeah. Would you recommend this over any of the forms of It? Knowing that to finish part 1, you have to watch part 2.

I think it yeah. Yeah. Probably. Yes. I think it depends also what you want.

I think the first It, the movie, the any Macau Machete movie is scarier and like it legit scary. Yeah. It has a couple moments. When the dude pops out of the map or whatever, like, I think it's well made. But yeah, the second one is is no point o.

Yeah. You can't just set your audience up for a disappointing ending and then just deliver exactly that ending and say, but we told you. And that's kinda how I felt about the second one. That all said, the thing that Horus says here as he is, this is where he's like fully the chunk avatar from Goonies. Yes.

Where Horus is the one who wants to chicken out instead of move forward. And says, why can't we be mad squad or nature squad? I like that shit. And when they infiltrate the house, this is post them having a conversation. You can kill the wolf man.

You can cut his head off. You can blow him up. You could drown him. I don't know. You could kick him in the nards.

Like, no, you can wolf man doesn't have. It's like, no. That's why he wears pants. And they go in the house. This is scary.

They go in the house and it's been established. Horace carries around food. And he's been carrying around this pizza that has garlic on it after he kicks wolf man in the nards. Yep. And he's, like, kind of the hero here, which is fun.

Yeah. And we have let's see. We have Dracula. We have his 3 vampire women. Yeah.

He's taken wives, like, local girls. Like, that again are not really explained. They just show up. They're scared, and then suddenly they're the wives. I do wish when he transformed, he went batched And had somehow the exact voice of Matthew Perry.

Yeah. Bat. Bat. Bat. And then we have wolf man, who's Doing the ball pain dance.

Blown to smithereens At some point. By the dad putting putting dynamite in his crotch. That's in a while. But I just like that they established, like they're like, you can kill them all sorts of ways. But, like, you know, the one guaranteed is the silver bullet.

But them getting ambushed and Horus throwing the garlic pizza Yeah. That effect of the Dracula face burn. Yeah. That edit is good. Dude, Stan Winston, man.

Yeah. That edit too. The effect is great. The edit is great. Yeah.

And them falling on this trap door in this house and finding the amulet. And this is a question I have for you. Is it ever established that Dracula has to have the amulet given to him? No. I think it's only they're they need it to get rid of him.

But I didn't realize that he needed to to take it. To not end up in the Maybe he just needs it to destroy it so he doesn't He needs it for control of something or to destroy it. But, like, the movie kind of with I don't think what it tells us is that he needs someone to willingly give it to him maybe. Because it's like he he knew where it was in the house and didn't go get it. I'm confused by that.

Sure. But, like, the logic too, kid logic is so good in this movie. Where they're like, where do we go? Let's go to the church. Monsters hate religious stuff.

Yes. Yeah. That sounds good. So wait. Does that make us monsters?

Yes. Okay. Absolutely, it does. According to Depending on who you talk to. At least we don't eat animals.

We do eat animals. We usually eat our pets. Well, yeah. Not not specific yeah. The cops are now, like, kinda mobilizing and getting involved because the dad has been, like it's been established, like The kid Dracula wants to kill really checked in with the kid.

Yeah. And Dracula wants to kill his kid. And Dracula wants to kill this kid. Asshole. How does the okay.

So it's been established through the montage that Rudy's making stakes, making silver bullets, stealing bow and arrows. And not much in this movie goes, wasted. And when Rudy in the back of this of the German guy's Jeep the green screen's a little rough. Yeah. It works.

It's better than anything in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull with the Siafu. Sure. Yeah. But the mummy's holding on to the back of this Jeep, and somebody hooks the the tissue and then Rudy arrows like a tree because they're driving on a whole highway. And unravels the mummy.

I like that editing. Yeah. It looks great. It works so well. It does.

It does. Yeah. And, like, the head rolling by as, like, the button of it. See you later, band aid breath. This is where a bunch of the Shane black one liners start to really Yeah.

Yeah. The heroes brimming with confidence thing. The eighties thing starts to really happen. Yeah. And it's so fun.

It's just like we're in full fun action. Dude, fuck it. Joel Schumacher, fucking nap nipples on the fucking back suit. Fucking give Dracula a fucking rock and roll horse. Fuck it.

Who gives a shit? Yeah. That's what like, Dracula's gonna blow shit up now. Fuck it. Yeah.

When Dracula Dracula dynamites in the tree house, Shane blacks it and says, meeting. Wow. And then the one guy who dies in this movie, like, really dies that we see no. A lot of cops dies. A lot of cops die.

A lot of cops die. Suck into that. But the one character we're endeared to, the partner Yeah. Gets killed by not Dracula biting him Nope. Or decaf.

What does he do, Ben? He dynamites the fuck out of you. After a cool guy, don't look at explosion. The trick is Also, I love that the dynamite goes off in 2 seconds or 2 minutes depending on what You never know if it's the short fuse. What the plot needs it to do.

James Coburn's not here to tell you. Best of luck. Sometimes it's immediate. Sometimes it doesn't ever come through the screen though and send you into the movie. That dynamite never does that.

No. This has been a recurring thing on this program though. Dynamite? Yeah. Yeah.

So I never noticed really how much of a device this is in so many movies I've seen or the people who think I definitely remember as a kid thinking dynamite was gonna be a much bigger threat to my Quicksand was me. Quicksand and dynamite. I felt like we're gonna be really need to look out for those. Maybe we should look into it. There might be people lighting off dynamite in some of these blue states.

I don't know. Wild dogs. Look into it. Running most of our major cities, dogs and cats living together All these criminals. Mass hysteria.

These criminals are coming in. They're bringing dynamite. That's where it comes from. That's how Dracula was able to just grab it from wherever. We've gone over this.

Is this neighborhood set, is that the universal lot? Oh, I don't think so, actually. What is that square? It's so it looks so familiar. I'm sure it is a back lot, but I've I'm so familiar with the universal back lot at this point.

I don't think it's universal. The the geography of it is it's hard to determine, but it seems like it's like it's probably Sunset Gower or some shit something semi local or something, Culver. When Rudy I mean, it might be because Universal hadn't. No. Wait.

No. There's a clock tower. But it's not it's not it's definitely not Universal. It's hard to we'll have to pinpoint text us about not Ben's bad behavior. Bumpy because that's over.

We're over that. But Eminem gate has passed. We're over that. We're onto something new now. We're onto something more zesty.

We're onto something we're onto something newnan. The Rudy though, just brimming with confidence, full leather jacket, glasses on at night. Or I don't think he has the glasses. Wear your sunglasses at I wear my sunglasses at night. Speaking of Corey's.

Oh, yeah? But where he shows up, I'm gonna anticipate this turning off any moment. So when Rudy walks up and he says, I'm in the goddamn club, aren't I? Like, again, just a great fucking like, you're you're a young kid. You're like, fuck.

This is a great role model. Oh, yeah. To a degree. He does a little blackmail at a point. It is and it is very Brolin esque.

It is. It seems fairly innocent. I would say yeah. I would say I mean, I don't think this is a it's these archetypes are so it's like It's so goonies. There's a data.

There's yeah. And like the bro Not quite a data. The bro I think Rudy is very cool. But the broling arc in Goonies of being the, like, standoffish older brother to becoming into the adventure is a little stronger of a of a of an arc of a story because Rudy is kinda like in from the beginning. So that's actually why I like Rudy a little more.

He's just from the very beginning. He's fucking Fonzie. He loves it. He's like a 40 year old guy who's been through 2 divorces that's paying child support that's, like, flicking cigarettes and, like, peeing people, like, what's your fucking problem at the grocery store or whatever? Like, I love him.

He's just going his own way. Josh Brolin, I love. It's a great performance. Great movie. I love Goonies.

Yeah. But that is almost like an older brother who's like, I'm not into you guys at all, but what are you up to? But I think But you got but which is fun, which is a great character. But that that's why I think it's fun for him to come around in in that. Yeah.

I agree. It's satisfying. But I also feel that Oh, you did try that. I did. There was an attempt, but and now I have water in my hand.

I think the We're deep. I think the spirits We have me wings. We have me wings. I think the spirits want us to hurt me. Okay.

Wolfman right behind you. Yeah. You know, we've we've now come into everything in the town square has gone like fucking nuts. Yep. Where all the monsters have showed up.

There's violence. There's, you know, all this shit in the streets. The the partner's dead. Shit's blown up. It's almost like it's a monster mash.

Yep. A legendary smash. You know, it was a graveyard smash. Had a legendary smash. It was a graveyard bash?

It was a graveyard I don't know. But we owe somebody money. So stop. But the I I love when, like, Dracula's injured, and he's been a real pest through this whole movie, blowing up tree houses. He's a real And just being a general like, he's a menacing bad guy.

He hasn't been a vampire, but he has been very He goes full vampire pretty soon, but he like, he mostly just goes full bat. Yeah. Bat. You know, the the Dracula's You said that. Dracula's biggest Are you big bats out here?

Bat. You know, we all know Dracula's most famous for blowing shit up. Yes. We're we're all aware of that. Short fuse is like he's a fuse expert and the whole but Dracula's injured and dad because, you know, dad shows up and so he's gonna fucking save the day.

His partner's dead. He's gonna get vengeance. And he's gonna blow Dracula up with his own dynamite. And Wolfman shows up right behind you. Yeah.

Slowly, surely. Hey, asshole. You booked. When Sean says his dad's getting his ass hit by wolf man here. That all that stunt work totally works.

Yeah. The wolf man makeup works. They're showing it off. The transition The transition's awesome. Great.

Yeah. It's not American Werewolf in London status. Sure. But it's damn good. It's cool.

What's your favorite wolf transition? American Werewolf in London. Yeah. I don't I don't know if it's close. Yeah.

This is the maybe the closest thing. This is really good. I I actually really dig. I I I think those these are probably the top, but I really Okay. I also dig The Lon Chaney one's good too.

I also dig the transition in Prisoner of Azkaban. Oh, that's a good call. Yeah. I wouldn't have thought of that. That's probably that's up there too.

It's a really cool effect. It is good. Yeah. Who who does that again? David Thewlis.

Oh, buddy. What? I just enjoy that actor. Oh, me too. Oh, buddy.

Chaos, man. You gotta watch Chaos. He plays Hades. I'm so glad you brought that up. I thought you might bring it up during the, what are we watching?

But I need a new a gold bloom in my life. Get that gold bloom in that place. I always do. Back to wolf man. When Sean says, hey, asshole.

And wolf man turns around and he goes, you looked legend. Yeah. Legend in the game of all time. Yeah. And the dad sticking the dynamite down the pants, kicking and the wolf man, the mannequin, whatever it is, because it's damn good.

Oh, yeah. It blows up. It's fucking cool. But then he comes back to there because the only way to take them down was a silver bullet. Yep.

Don't know. It's made clear that they were wrong in their little tree house meeting, meeting adjourned pals. Yeah. Yeah. Your ideas have been exploded as well as other things.

And you're You're unstuck. I mean, the movie's almost over, but there's they can't get limbo open because the sister's not actually a virgin. She was with a dude who doesn't count. I thought she was gonna say something like, never mind. I'm not gonna go there.

We'll just let that lie. We'll we'll just leave that stuck. But she does speak German, which is the language Poorly. Very poorly. But they need someone who can, like, read German and then so then they just go with the little girl and have the German dude, like, just read it to her.

Yeah. And all all the wild wolf man in an incredible regeneration. Yeah. Again, Stan Winston and these folks just, like, showing off thinking whatever. And that little boy who wrote the letter with the dog, is she a version?

Yeah. The fact that it was his idea. Like, every one of the kids, like, serves their purpose. And the, the way Dracula picks that little girl up by a reflection. Give me the amulet, you bitch.

I was like And goes full finger. Yeah. And I was like, oh, dude. If that was my daughter, and I was like that that dude's gotta die. Horace has his moment too.

The redemption with Jason where he's, like, trying to get into the diner. He's got, like, the tactical shotgun and the Gillman's advancing on him. Yeah. And all it took was somebody being decent enough after the Gillman murders most of the town's police force. Oh, and and then the yeah.

The portal also takes care of the rest of the police force. Yeah. Zips a lot of them out of there as we're just like, good god. How do you stop it? And, well, either way, the the Gill man gets stopped by Horace just like shooting in the heart with a shotgun.

And the bully coming out and being like, oh, fat kid, you stopped it. And he's like, my name. And cocks the gun and goes, it's Horus. It's like, that's dumb as shit. That's corny as shit.

But if I'm like a 10 year old boy as I was many times watching this movie, I'm like, fuck yeah. For sure. Yeah. You but you felt like Phoebe was in danger here. Like, if you were her dad, you're like Oh, yeah.

Give me the amulet, you bitch. You're like Oh, yeah. What a great like, you call the little girl a bitch. Dracula gotta die. Yeah.

Well and this was the moment where I'm like, he clearly had he has to have somebody handed to him. Right? I I guess. I guess. So Frankenstein comes in in his true nature.

And gets a redemption because he loves her or he loves the little girl and he he grabs track from the from by the neck. Oh, yeah. And Frank is clearly Focus. Frank is clearly the muscle of the group. Yeah.

And just like takes throws him throws him to the side. And now the portal is open. Right? Mhmm. And things are just getting, like Cops and many many many benches.

Many benches. There are a lot of benches here. I think, yeah, many many. I mean, when you're feeling stuck Lot of baseball stadiums. When you're feeling stuck, you gotta sit down on a bench.

Yeah. Van Helsing showing back up. So are they just, like, in that portal forever? They're in limbo. Whenever that portal opens up, you're stuck in limbo until the portal opens again.

It's the negative zone? Essentially, yeah. Yeah. You're general Zod and you're fucking yeah. You're stuck.

So they're really setting this up for a sequel. Oh, yeah. And, dude, every time Van Helsing shows up and gives the thumbs up I was like I fucking die laughing. I did too, because I was like They die. My first thought was they had thumbs up in, like, 1600s Transylvania.

That was a common thing. It was great. I was all for it. We've been watching you from the void. We just wanted to throw in this exposition.

Also, somehow Palpatine survived. Yeah. I just okay. This is probably my favorite payoff in the movie of a joke where it's like you watch Arrested Development and something from season 1 pays off in season 3. If you're paying attention in the montage to the kid who wrote the letter in crayon and knew that that other girl was a version.

Her? Her? Versions? The little boy who wrote to the army Yeah. They show up.

Yeah. That's such a fucking great they show up, you know, day late and then out, sure. Yeah. But they fucking show and they're like, who wrote the letter? What what's going on here?

We're the monsters. And you just give him the, the business. Oh, but you forgot to mention Frank gets sucked into the portal. You know who also gives thumbs up is the Iron Giant. Oh, yeah.

I think that made sense that he would've learned by then. And Terminator. Maybe. You've watched Walk of Life Project. Right?

Where the guy replaces the ending, like, the ending score, like, the amazing movies that have great score cues at the end that partially make the the movie so great. Uh-huh. Terminator 2. Okay. We're all It's replaced with Walk of Life.

And it's and we do the walk. And he's just, like, getting loaded to please listen to that people. So at the end of the movie, these parents that have been, you know, very angry with each other and, going to counseling, talking about counseling and the whole thing, they're like hugging and kissing at the end. So I assume the issues have been fixed? I guess.

Again I thought you touched your nose just now to, like, indicate to me, like, you bet. I the similar to Twister where they're, like, celebrating on that farm after this people's livelihood got destroyed. Here, everyone's dancing and laughing. So many cops just died. So many cops just got stuck in the wall.

Have been deemed useless. Like, has anybody thought of this? I mean, you know, ACAB. Right? But, shut the fuck.

I'm saying, you should look into it. They're eating dogs. They're eating cats. In this universe? But, yeah, they're the the, like, slow pan out with the song and the credits.

The rap song is great. Who who are you guys to the military? The military asked them, who are you guys? Just gives them the The kid just goes, because the bird the those business cards are prepared. Not a lot of this movie is wasted.

I'm a monster squad. With a monster squad. And no joke, again, trying to do my very best to be like, okay, I'm like 10 or 12 watching. I'm 10 or 12. I'm like, this is the coolest motherfucker that's ever lived.

You know what the it should have rolled directly into the, the, Transformers and the it should have and we do the walk. And it's just Frankenstein going, bye. Bye. We do the walk again. Bye, buddy.

Hope you're buying your dad. I I would love to know your closing thoughts as soon as possible. I'm just gonna say this one very last time extremely briefly. The practical effects in this movie, it's masterpiece level. It is.

I'm torn a little bit because I feel like I mean, again, I love the movie, and I feel like we both made a lot of great edits in a weird way that sort of bring it down a little bit. We we really blew this thing up like we were like Count Dracula or something. You know what I mean? But you know, like, that's pretty that's a common reference. Right?

We do this up like counteract. Oh, yeah. Everyone knows Vlad the impaler. People love. Yeah.

That's what an impaling is. Vlad the hoisted diary all my time. I'm almost finishing the edit on Virgin Suicides by the way. I just wanna mention that. And how is it so far?

The edit's great. The episode's great. It's been such a refreshing break for me. Not to hear your voice. But also, like, you know, we both know what happens in that movie, so speaking.

Oh, really? You make a couple jokes in that, then I'm like, I'm not cutting that. And I don't remember them. So Right. We'll see if I end up cutting them from here, but We'll see.

We'll see. I I might I think I'm at 3a half Dracula dynamites. Okay. Still a very high sounds good for me. But I think, like, a lot of points we made about sort of, like, the soft science and the plot.

Yeah. And then as we talked about other kind of version of this, I do think Eileen Goonies more. Yeah. Sure. But it's still a I mean, I think I might add this as a regular rotation for Halloween.

Oh, yay. Maybe I'll buy it because I don't want to watch it on Pluto TV. Yes. Yes. Although the quality was okay.

Quality was okay. The yeah. The digital from The dump over from the DVD. It looked okay. It was fine.

But I wouldn't mind a 4 k SteelBook. Oh, my God. There is a 4 album version of the soundtrack, the entire score and soundtrack. I would like to have that. That's cool.

I would really like that. What about you, Paul? You stuck? I'm gonna stick with my grading system. You're sticking.

I'm not gonna change my grading system or my score. Okay. I'm gonna keep my score of 4. There is I had so much fucking fun talking about this. Oh, yeah.

Me too. And I agree with your logic and and the way you've executed this. Your concept of a plan is solid in going to 3 and I have a lot I have a concept of a plan. There's there's an idea of, something's percolating. Yeah.

Okay. Are you hungry? Are you okay? Like, I know you need brain food. Rudy's upstairs, so Oh, no.

Leather jacket? Yeah. Also from Animal. Wow. We're really the at Matrix, give it some effort.

I'm gonna leave it at a 4 though. Like, I I wanted to partially come down as well, but I think you and I both said, I don't care Yeah. Enough times. And you mentioned something that has become a really strong barometer for me more than anything else, I think, on this film. You mentioned something that is a really strong barometer for me on this program more so I think than anything else now.

Now that I'm trying to look at this from a a critical eye, my armchair quarterback, There's so much value in wanting to rewatch or own something and spend the time. I'll still keep rewatching this. And now, I think I'm even more empowered, especially if someone's like, hey, I like adventure movies. Adventure fantasy movies are really cool. I love Indiana Jones.

I love I guess, Goonies is slightly more grounded than some things in some sort of reality. Nobody comes back from the dead or whatever. Right? There's just, I mean, the There's a big, weird looking dude. There's a guy yeah.

That's the main thing I thought of. Are you talking about Robert Davy? Yeah. We just got sued. So, yeah, I'm gonna stay at 4, and I I love how bombastic this movie is.

Like, we're gonna do a franchise. We're gonna fucking soundtrack. I I'm sure they had a lot of plans. I'm sure Taft Barish as a production company had a lot of plans and Concepts. Concepts of plans and and made moves and, you know, executed better than a lot of people could execute a concept of a plan.

Almost anyone. I'd be very curious to know what if there was a script or if it was just concepts of the script for the sequels of this movie, I'd be curious to know what that was. I don't think there's anything that I've ever seen and that includes that includes Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Nice Guys. I don't think there's anything that Shane Black's writing sings more beautifully in. I think personally, what I mostly get is he wants mostly what I get is the intention of his writing is, I'm going to add context to characters through flourishes of writing, through moments.

I don't know who wrote the moment about, you know, not actually scary German guy. Or who wrote Oh, yeah. Some of these character moments about the parents or whatever. But that's the shit to me that really sings in this movie is, the things that I don't always expect that provide beautiful levels of context. It's a much I can't put a heart on this movie.

It it doesn't feel like a kid's movie as many times as I said it before. Cool. Thanks for introducing this movie to me. I'm glad I finally got to watch it. I'm so glad I'm 2 for 2 in spooky season so far.

22 guest in this, 4 Are you gonna be or, well, 4 to 3 and a half. 4 to very high 3 and a half would own a 3 and a half. 3 and a half. Yeah. I I know.

I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm back. But I I had a concept.

I had a thought, and I'm letting it go. I want to thank you, specifically, for loving this movie and embracing this movie and also writing our interstitials. I do that. And also Jamie Henwood does our intro and outro. Matthew Foskett does our what you've been doing, what are you watching things.

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