Big Trouble / Miami Style (Guest Host: Katie Hampton)

Ben had to bounce (he just didn’t have the time), so Guest Host Katie Hampton (@elsassypants) bounds in with her choice “Big Trouble,” (in larger Miami. D. Sonnenfeld 2002…technically). We heartily chuckle through the Tim Allen school of acting, lack of plot, uuummm world events, and more in this episode that will have you wishing Paul were Ben more than ever! Get ready for a load of the toad (lots of Paul) on 5/27!

**All episodes contain explicit language**
Artwork - Ben McFadden
Review Review Intro/Outro Theme - Jamie Henwood
"What Are We Watching" & "Whatcha been up to?" Themes - Matthew Fosket
"Fun Facts" Theme - Chris Olds/Paul Root
Lead-Ins Edited/Conceptualized by - Ben McFadden
Produced by - Ben McFadden & Paul Root
Concept - Paul Root

Transcript

Podcast with people across wherever. America, the world. The world. You could play Mortal Kombat with a friend in Vietnam. Everyone, you might recognize that voice.

First though, I am a normal co host of yours, usual. Not to say you're abnormal, just that I'm quite frequent. My name is Paul. I have an a special guest co host here with me. Special on the autism scale, but this is Katie Hampton.

Katie Haynes back. Hey, everybody. Who's with us for Office Christmas Party and Secondhand Lions. What what a gamut of movies I was brought on for. You are one of my favorite people to be here.

Not only you're funny, you're delightful. We really enjoy you. My cat is excited you're here. She's decided to join us, so that's great. But, also, like, you pick such specific, very singular, like, left field stuff, which I love.

I appreciate that. It's mostly just because my husband and I are, like, so into movies and films and things like that that, like, every now and then, because of my, like, very stringent Christian upbringing, I didn't see a lot of movies at a certain point in time. And then he'll just be like, oh, have you ever seen this? And I'll be like, no. I'll be like, what is this?

I will say secondhand lions was one of those movies that I had I had seen before he had. But yeah. No. I I freaking love this one. I was gonna ask, was secondhand lions allowed in your house?

Because I think that's one that Thankfully, it was. I mean, I'm sure there wasn't, like, you know, a lot of, like, happiness around some of the Christian portrayed characters, but they loved it. You know, they loved a World War two vet, and they A Michael Caine. A Michael Caine. Look at the voice of Haylock is Michael Caine.

Did we also do, like, a whole running bit of, our Michael Caine exit? Yes. Forget about that. It's back. Oh, man.

No, mister Cratchit. I will not excuse you. It's so bad. It's really bad. Welcome.

It's the review review. Thank you so much for joining us. Ben would normally be here. He's quite busy looking forward, backward, etcetera in time. Ben is working on his version of HG Wells, the time machine for the Hollywood Fringe Festival.

You can catch that pretty much any week upcoming here in June at the Broadwater Theatre. Get tickets. They're pay what you can. Enjoy. But the movie that we have chosen by our amazing guest cohost, Katie Hampton, is a movie called Big Trouble, and it abides by our normal rules.

It's seven years old or older. It's less than two hours and twenty two minutes by quite a bit. It meets the feature film requirement. Which is wild because a lot happens in this movie. In a short amount of time, a lot of things happen at my brain, and it feels like a long time.

It does. Yes. Thank you for relinquishing that immediately. The movie is also not part of any greater franchise, but I do I love get shorty. Yeah.

There's a whole Get Shorty vibe to this. I I even asked my husband. I was like, is this part of the whole Get Shorty universe? It it's not. Right?

I don't think it is, but I agree there is an adjacent feeling. I haven't watched be cool or this because I've heard from others where it's like, just don't don't do it. And I really love Get Shorty. I I that is that that is my husband's all time favorite movie. I if you if I could take the camera around the corner here, there's a big poster of Get Shorty on the wall over here.

Such a great cast. Such a great It is. Yeah. Then you also have a similar character in Dennis Farina playing almost exactly the same character. And I'm like, I I remember I I rewatched it on Monday, but I was like, oh, shit.

Is this in the universe? And he's like, no. It's not. It just kinda feels like it. It's a place you'd like to be if you've seen Get Shorty, but then, apparently, you watch any of these other movies and you're like, never mind.

Depend I don't know. It depends on who you talk to. We'll find out as we dig through this. But, Katie, I would really like to know what you've been doing. Oh, man.

I have been doing quite a bit. A lot with GeekScape Network. It's a podcast network, and, I've been doing quite a few new shows. Internet Supreme Court, one of my all time favorite things. We basically judge the Internet's memes, and I come up with So fun.

Really dumb bits. And I still haven't written all my stuff for tomorrow, but if you do watch, there is definitely gonna be some kind of a reference to the woman who got $600,000 for calling a child the n word. What? I don't know if you heard that story. Buddy.

What? Was it wait. Was this the same lady that I saw on The Daily Show who was like, I say the n word all or no. Piers Morgan. Just throwing around how she's just, like, a mega racist and so cool with it.

Why? Wow. Wow. Different people. Sorry.

Go on. Different people, but probably same energy. Same. That big racist energy. They're they're across the street neighbors growing up.

A %. Yeah. The Internet Supreme Court, very fun and also fun, adjacent show to that, Christian cringe where we cover late nineties, early '2 thousands content of Christian communities. And we've got some really wild episodes coming up. We just covered Kirk Franklin, and, we did a bunch of we did extreme days, which if you haven't seen extreme days, Paul, I might I haven't.

Suggest this for review review for another episode. Okay. Okay. It's awful, but it's it's a Christian movie. Wow.

Yeah. Extreme days. Can you go on about that a little bit? Okay. If you've so it's such a complicated thing that it doesn't really have a plot, but it's basically these friends take a road trip and Is this big trouble?

No plot? No. There's there is no plot. There is no plot. There's a lot of there's a lot of action shots of them snowboarding and skateboarding, and it's not really them, I don't think.

I think it's just b roll footage of kids skateboarding and snowboarding and stuff. Rad. Also got some fairly racist things, and then, also, Jesus is wildly thrown in there. By the way, if you look it up on IMDB, it will say that it stars Dante Bosco. He's just a side character in this movie.

Who is Dante Bosco? Are you kidding me? Dante Bosco from hook, dude, from Everlast Airbender. He's, oh my god. I'm a loser.

Paul. Glenn Close, Carrie Fisher, Hook. Yeah. Well, I mean Bob Hoskins. I love that you're naming all the Jim Broadbent?

Jack Brown. You know Hook? Yeah. Shout out to my buddy, Bob Chaffin, who was a he was a pirate on that movie. Thomas Tulak, one of the kids.

Hell, yeah. I'm I'm a big book fan. I know exactly what you're talking about now. You're talking about Rufio, dude. This is a program that respects Rufio.

This is a house that respects Rufio, hundred percent. Well, it should, and it should respect the name Dante Bosco. Okay. Okay. It is Rufio.

Oh. Oh, okay. Thank you so much. I oh my god. Great.

We're on the same page. Same page. Wow. What a trip. Same page.

That's good. I'm glad we're there. We Run home, Jack. Oh my goodness. Wow.

Oh. Wow. Dante Basque. Excellent. So I I'm doing a lot of podcasts and things, and, I will be in a short film that is hopefully being direct is being directed, has been directed, and is gonna be edited by my buddy, Bob Chapin, who is also Oh, cool.

A visual effects guy and one of the pirates in Hook. Very cool. Yeah. How about you, man? What have you been doing?

Oh, boy. Me? Well, Katie, I'm gonna say it. Okay. I was just I was I was in Paris.

What? It was so cool. It was amazing. I had the best time. I was there with special agent Kaye.

You mean Kimbo? Yes. And it was fucking amazing. It was the time of the life, just the best. So much great food and scenery and touristy shit in just a few days.

It was like a spur of the moment. Like, fuck it. Oh, was it just, like, one of those tickets that you could, just take your white male passport and, like, leave the country easily and not be stopped at any borders and then come back easily? Wow. Kind of like in this movie, it seems like just getting through customs or whatnot, as you're saying, is, like, as a basic white male or whatever.

It's, like, super easy. Even when you look like just an absolute, like, pigpen from Peanuts, Like, Tom Sizemore. Just filthy. Filthy with, like, a cutoff t and then, like, also, like, a a inconspicuous towel wrapped around your arm, and you say you're all John Smith. It's like a rip yeah.

And money gets everything working, which, like, you know, there are some things about this movie. I'm looking forward to discussing this movie. Also Did you did you know when it was originally supposed to release? Yes. We are gonna talk about that a little bit in a little bit.

I'm so sorry. Okay. It's one of my favorite facts about this movie. You couldn't hold it for, like, another year. That might have done you good.

So I'm also making some short films with an acting class that I'm in, and it's really fun going through that production process and stuff. I just haven't done that in a long time. So it's, like, got my fire in there a little. Is it is it, like, reremembering how to work with people who know half of what the jobs entail. I'm just curious.

I mean, everybody's gotta hold everybody's hand for sure. Yeah. And it is nice that I, in no way, shape, or form, am I the leader of any of anything that's happening. So I'm one of the cats being herded rather than That is that's the way to do it, man. Yeah.

That's kinda how I to you. Be herded. I don't wanna be in charge of things. There are smarter, better, more organized, more motivated people that can tell me what to do. I'm just a hand puppet.

Like, just not a problem. So that that's what I've been up to. That's amazing. The the oh, I just wanna I don't know what to say to hype it up. The number one podcast hit, everybody loves it.

What are we watching? Wait. What are you been watching, Katie? Oh, wow. Played for the people.

Oh, got it. Not for us. What am I what am I currently watching? I am currently watching Andor. Okay.

Dude, oh, so good. Oh god. It's so good. I I did start the studio, but it hit a little too close to home. I can see that.

It feels like how my sister couldn't watch The Office back in the in the day. Like, I was like, oh, I love this, but I also hate it. It's too real. And I just saw the thunderbolts AKA Oh, go on. Yeah.

The new Avengers. Avengers. Yes. Sorry to spoil that for anybody who didn't see that marketing scheme coming. I freaking loved that movie.

That was a great kind of resuscitation to the Marvel Universe, I feel. They're recent. Okay. I watched a lot of movies lately, and one of the things I watched was Captain America Brave New World. Have you seen this?

I have seen this. What did you think of it? Okay. I think that there was a lot of involvement of different factors. I Sure.

I enjoyed it for what I The diplomatic. Trying to be. I do think that there were some very obvious rewrite scenes Yeah. That were kind of cringy. And Okay.

I just you know, I freaking love Anthony Mackie. I think he's great. I think he's wonderful in that. That's what I thought of that movie. Okay.

I really enjoy the Anthony Mackie and Harrison Ford performances in the movie. Yes. %. Yeah. The big thing I have, I guess, with it is I don't know.

I I I want to find a very specific Letterboxd review, but I just did not Do you want me to vamp that? I did not I did not love it. Okay. I laughed quite a bit in the kind of third act at a lot of the CG and Harrison Ford's Red Hulk crazy nipples. But also, like, my review was it may be a brave new world, but it's definitely the same old shit.

So I just, like, I I'm excited for the idea of thunderbolts being good because I love a fantasy adventure movie. Like, I I love what you're saying here. So, I mean, didn't mean to derail us completely. I I do wanna hear more, please. No.

No. No. No. I'd I'd, Brave New World was definitely one of those that, like, I think everyone saw coming a mile away of just, like, I I really wanna enjoy this, but please, studio, don't screw this up. And then they did.

They they had their hands in the honeypot, and it was just like, and it felt obvious. I will say Thunderbolts, however, is a full film. It's a full film. It's a full premise. Florence Pugh crushes it.

Stranger Things. He plays the Red Guardian. He's very famous. He steals the movie. David Harbour.

Thank you. Coffee and Contemplation. Yeah. Alright. So this is a movie I need to see in the theater most likely is what is what you're telling me.

We're we're, like, at the crescendoing again, or we're moving toward that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, honestly, it it was one of the movies that we were gonna go see, oh, what the, sinners. We were gonna go see sinners.

Mhmm. But sinners was freaking sold out. I was so Oh, yeah. Impressed that a Los Angeles theater finally sold out a movie. It's such a sad and true thing.

You know? It's weird. And, you know, it's at our former Arclight, now Regal Cinema, so it's, you know, real Oh, I know each. I know each one. Yeah.

Yep. Yep. Which is a bummer because I really liked that theater beforehand, and now it's kind of it's a little touch and go. It's really cool to see, like, people actually in the theater again, and it was really fun to have a group response to things and laughing with other voices and not just being an echoing voice in a very upbeat theater. You know?

Yeah. I got to see centers in a theater with quite a few people and got that energetic experience, which was nice. Like, the the thing you crave with adventure and horror specifically is genres, I think, is that kind of audience participation factor. So Yeah. If you haven't seen centers yet?

I haven't yet, and I'm I'm dying to go see it. It was one of those that I Keep trying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mhmm. I heard it was a vampire movie, and I was like, I'm so over vampires, guys. And and then someone explained it to me on one of my many other podcasts, napping through happy hour. Oh, yeah. I've been on that podcast.

You have. And one of this very studio that we are doing digitally that you guys have may have seen. James Thorpey came on, napping through happy hour and just sung its praises to an effect that I was like, oh, I really need to see this. He's like, it's the best movie of of the year. Do you agree?

And it's it's we're very early in the year, but I had I really enjoyed it. Yeah. And it reminded me of a movie from the nineties that I really love that Ernest Dickerson directed called Tales from the crypt presents demon knight. Oh. Okay.

There's a lot of thematic stuff that sings in both of these movies that I think is really, really great. So being able to watch that and being reminded of this other thing and was really, really cool. And I like that Sinners uses in terms of just, like, vampire lore, vampire rules, and whatnot. They use some of that old school stuff that you don't always see in those newer vampire things because as rules change, as we go over, etcetera, etcetera. I watched a movie called one of them days with Keke Palmer and SZA.

What? I didn't know SZA could act. Okay. Cool. She can.

Okay. And the movie is in the same kind of zone as Superbad or Friday or that kind of a situation. It's a little absurd at times. The the rules of reality don't always apply, and it just really, really, really works. It's such a fun, funny movie that shot so well and vibrantly.

And it's, like, one of those really great three and a half out of fives in when we do rating systems where it's like, no. I would watch this, like, five more times and recommend it to any it's, like, not a perfect movie. It but it it doesn't make contact on every swing, but, like, it's good. And Okay. And last thing Did you stream it on anything?

Oh, I watched it on an airplane. Ah, there it is. Okay. Yeah. And I was gonna thi try and see it at the theater and, unfortunately, missed it, but luckily caught it on the plane.

Whoop whoop. And then the rehearsal season two. Oh, yeah. I the head of Geekscape is constantly telling me that I need to watch that, and I I stopped after season one. I completely forgot about it.

And then I was like, oh, I forgot what this whole show was about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Here it gets pretty incredible. It's, it's really crazy that this season is about air flight and travel and the pilot, copilot dynamic and things of that nature and that you brought this movie.

It's fucking wild to me. We're gonna talk about so many little my little Illuminati bugs throughout this episode. I'm almost sure of it. It's just really, really, really crazy at a couple points this season already, just a few episodes in. But I just love Nathan Fielder's kind of not only approach to, like, I will go to the ends of the earth to, like, get a laugh or have an experience or give people some sort of an idea of how far I'm willing to go in this belief or how much of this is a caricature or a character, how much of it is him.

I just find it so fascinating. And I also love that there seems to be a level of it's like something from ninety day fiance where it's like, what are you willing to say or do or be portrayed as to be on television? Like, how far are you willing to go? What are you willing to endure? And it just I know it's cringy as hell.

I know. But I love it. I know. Listen. If if you love that, here's another I forgot to mention in my what am I doing.

I am back working in postproduction on the amazing race. Oh, oh. Yep. And, let me tell you. This season, if you've watched it or you enjoy it, I particularly love the season that's airing right now.

I'm, like, I can't remember if, the final episode aired or not. Season coming after. This is a doozy, and I think it's gonna be right up your alley. Wow. Okay.

So I'm not really an amazing race person. I'm not normally a reality TV person, but I'm hooked on ninety day fiance. Hooked on it. I watched a couple different ones. Like, I have a couple friends that I talk to about ninety day fiance.

And it's just funny that you're mentioning amazing race right now, though, because my massage therapist, I was telling him about, you know, the rehearsal in ninety day fiance and whatnot, and something comes on where Will Forte is talking about his experience in his friendship with Val Kilmer and how Val Kilmer was like, amazing race. I don't think so when Will Forte was like, I want you to watch this. And then by the end of an episode, Kilmer was into it and did is this, yeah, wanted to do it. Yeah. With him.

So so maybe I need is this a sign? Another Illuminati moment. You know, you you might. Just I mean, it's I will say I will say the one I'm not much of a a reality TV person myself, except for Great British Bake Off because it's Oh, yeah. Warm cuddles and great food.

Yep. I will say this that I do love about admitting that I work on a reality show is that they don't force anyone to they don't really construct a story out of, like, frickin biting. You know, people, like, editing them editing them down into, like, a terrible person. If you're a terrible person, you'll be shown as a terrible person. Like, everything is a % those people, their responses, whatever.

Wow. Yeah. That's good to know. Yeah. I always wonder how those things are picked apart when I watch, like, ninety day fiance.

I'm like, what all did I not see? Or Story producers. Story producers. Well, Katie Paul. I think it's time that we get to the facts.

Alright. Or we're gonna be in big trouble. In big trouble. Are we anyway? Archaeology is the search for fact.

This episode is hosted by the Gremlins from Gremlins. This episode is is sponsored by really deep, chuckles. Excellent. Go on, would you? Alright.

Well, Big Trouble is a touchdown pictures, Jacobson's productions, PG 13. It was released technically in Technically. Technically in February. It's one hour and twenty five minutes long. Its budget was $40,000,000, 70 1 point 1 million adjusted.

Opening weekend was 04/05/2002. Okay. I have to tell I have to tell this. We it's in the fun facts. It's there.

It's We can talk about this multiple times if you like. If you're gonna if you're about to, like, just lose it. For some reason, when we had been talking about, like, potential movies and whatnot, I got very stoned with my husband, and, and we watched this movie. And then I was like, oh my god. We have to do this because he told me the fact that this movie was originally supposed to release 09/15/2001, and it features a bomb on a plane.

Right. And, like, a hijacking and And not hijacking. And I find it very apropos that we just recorded an episode for the movie half baked. And Ben, who's not here for this episode, rated that movie two towers because you see the twin towers in that movie. I was like, fuck.

That's true, man. Where are you? No. And so maybe we we're very lucky that you brought this movie when Ben's not here because I can't I can't deal with this reading. I don't know what I can how I can hold on to that thing for another how much money were you gonna lose by letting it sit for another year?

I know you gotta probably release this thing based on a lot of factors. But Yeah. Yeah. I I mean and and they did. They didn't release it till 02/2002, but it was kind of at the time of Tim Allen actually being in movies, which is weird to remember.

And I was like, what? This is like a gig shorty with Tim Allen, and he's actually really good at this. And it's hard to remember that he did other things besides kids' movies. Yeah. Because I he's so synonymous with the Santa Claus in Toy Story for me.

And Home Improvement. And of course yeah. What? Home? I'm Yeah.

See you later. A hearty chuckle. A hearty chuckle. This is brought to you by the hearty chuckles of Binford tools. Yeah.

All of those SOBs. And selling cocaine because Tim Allen was also famous for that. But it's just Yep. It's crazy that this whole situation, I'm really looking is that part of the reason why you brought this too? Is you're like, this is, like, fodder.

Like, we we can talk about this. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it was essentially like, I was just like, what a wild placement in time and history, a, for this movie to come out. And, like, oh my god.

The cast in this movie is unbelievable in itself. And my god. I was like, wait a minute. Heavy d's in this movie? It's so crazy.

Yeah. It opens with Jason Lee as Jesus. This is perfect because these are only cast members that have prominent roles in this movie that we're not gonna mention in a minute. The cast, as you were just saying, is so deep. It's like a a basketball tee.

It's like 16 you could name 16 people at the top of this movie, and pea and a lot of people would go, I yeah. I know who that is. Consider, like, alternate universe. When these people were actually big, this would have been a groundbreaking movie. Hilarious.

Sure. Slapsick. I mean, Tucci's in it doing his best comedy Tucci bits. You know? Like I'm too The Tuoch.

The Tuoch. The Tuoch is loose. The Tuoch. What else came out this weekend, Katie? Oh, well, what else came out this weekend?

Other releases this weekend were High Crimes, National Lampoon's Presents Van Wilder. Yeah. Right? And this entry's Dennis the next. We can top the weekend top five, I think, is really interesting.

Panic Room, High Crimes, Ice Age, The Rookie, and Blade two. Blade two the second Blade. Blade. Blade. The number.

Blade. Blade. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

I'm into it. I like that. Other films from 02/2002 were Signs, which I did not realize. That movie came out that year. That's wild.

You're upset. Why is this you seem upset. Why is that so wild? It just makes me feel older every single day. What?

That movie came out on my birthday. Did it really? Me and Shyamalan have the same birthday. Well, how does it feel? Films come out on the day.

This episode brought to you by m. Night, Pomelon. Oh, you got a hearty laugh out of it. Yeah. Yeah.

There you go. Other films that were released in 02/2002, Signs, My Big Fat Greek Wedding. I love that movie. Blue Crush, Windtalkers, I am Sam. Oh my god.

Men in Black two, and The Santa Clause two. Yeah. You're so you're thinking what I'm thinking as you read those. Yeah. Big year for Sonnenfeld and Allen.

Yeah? I mean, yeah. Seriously, though. Like, what what a wild freaking time this was. I mean Indeed.

He already had the Santa Claus. He already had all of home improvement Mhmm. And cocaine. And he also has this this was this would have been a big blockbuster hit. You think so?

I honestly think so. So. I think this would've changed Tim Allen's career. I'm not gonna lie. I think it would've done a lot better.

We did galaxy quest for this program. Oh, yeah. And not only do I think his performance in toy story is pretty good. Yeah. But the performance, he has a a couple, like, scenes in Galaxy Quest where you're like, holy shit, that apparently Alan Rickman was like, yeah.

You're fuck you're acting, bro. And if Alan Rickman's saying that to you, like, yeah. So I really thought Galaxy Quest was gonna be the big, like, oh, wow. But that's this comes or would have been, like, right after. And it looks like a bigger bomb than it is.

But as you're saying, because, like, everything that happened around it and that's the thing. It's like, wait until the following that's the thing. Like, you can't release it in the fall. It's like, wait till the next September, and it's like, can't do that. And then Nope.

So you gotta release it at some point. You wanna know why? Because we never forgot. And and it's wild to me to think about, like, the alternate universe where this movie does release, and Tim Allen has, like, a thriving career still. Oh, yeah.

Sure. Well, I mean, isn't there gonna be a Toy Story five? Oh, okay. TV show right now? Oh, what it was the Cat Dennings?

Man of the house or something. Or yeah. Dude, j no. That's a isn't that I don't know. It's JTT movie.

Oh, you're fine. Well, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. No.

Is it? But, yeah, it feels like Tim kind of just kept hitting, like, really good luck and also really bad luck in his career. Yeah. Yeah. That's an accurate point, I'd say.

He's a comedian from the eighties. He was very poor. Just rife with cocaine. I mean Yeah. Loved cocaine.

Everybody in the eighties got a sitcom in the nineties. Party time. Party time. No. So I'm gonna I was giving you background music.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he seemed to have cleaned up his act, and then, like and now he's like Sure. Kinda.

I don't know. All the kids in Springfield are SOB. It's just it's so interesting to see how his career has kind of, like, stutter stopped and started over the years. And, yeah, he is Toy Story. He's a % Toy Story.

He's quite a slight year for crying out loud. But he's not as big of a name. You ask anybody, any Gen z, any any Gen Alpha who Tim Allen is, they're not gonna know. I would have to test that. I am but only I'm five years old.

Oh, okay. Alright. So Allen is? I'm Jen, yeah. So and I don't you knew it.

I only talk to boomers or older people. Well, that's me. I don't talk to other alphas alphas Alphas. Or zen xennials. Xennials?

Xennials. I don't the millennials slash gen xers. Yeah. Those. Yeah.

Those. Gen xennials. So I don't do I don't do any of that. Somebody who's old. It's really gonna damage your log, man.

What are you talking about? Not a problem. Don't. The letterbox average is three point o. Follow us on at run b e e m c, and Paul Ags Badly.

And I don't have a letterbox still. We'll get you. It'll happen. I know. You need more social media.

I know. Mean What I've been telling you is all the notifications aren't dinging enough on my phone or Right. If you need help, hang up. And, major awards, wins, and nominations, none. Ebert rated this at 2.5 out of four.

Rotten Tomatoes, a 48%, fifty four % popcorn. Metacritic did, forty seven and five point eight for user. So Ebert liked it enough. Enough. To get it above a two, which is impressive.

Yeah. And then others kind of it's like kinda felt whatever about it, it seems. Understandably. Yeah. The director of this film was one Barry Sonnenfeld, Men in Black, Wild Wild West, Get Shorty.

This is part of our confusion of what is this part of? Is it is is there some sort of parallel? What now? Reason why he directed that movie so well. Yeah.

Writers of this film are Dave Barry, complete guide to guys, Robert Ramsey, man of the house, Oh, okay. Matthew Stone, gringo. Director of photography, Greg Gardner, Orange County, she's the man, butter. Music Love she's the man in butter. Have you seen butter?

I have not seen butter. Oh, okay. Okay. You gotta you gotta watch it. It's You're just thinking about eating delicious butter?

No. It's no. I'm actually thinking about all the performances in that movie, and maybe that's what Okay. Next, but I don't know. Okay.

That movie is stacked. And But what about the movie with Rufio? Hook? That one No. Not that.

The other one. Extreme days. I was gonna say I was gonna say in extreme day days. I was gonna say freedom danger. Freedom danger, which honestly, I think was the alternate title.

It was definitely actually. You're too kind. Yeah. It wasn't big trouble. It was freedom danger.

Freedom danger. Change that after 09:11 too. Depending on the market, it was freedom danger originally. Oh, man. Music was James Newton Howard.

This was a purse I thought it was just gonna say, like, Casio c 300 medleys or something, button. Major League. Listen to our Major League episode, Diggstown and Dave. Mhmm. Producers were Barry Sonnenfeld, Enchanted and Disenchanted.

Barry Josephson, like Mike, and Tom Jacobson, uncle Buck. Don't go in there with that hat on. They'll kill you. Mhmm. Get you a mouse and a piece of sheet metal.

Tim Allen is Elliott for richer or poorer, jungle to jungle, galaxy quest. Listen to our galaxy quest episode. Renee Russo, Anna, tin cup, lethal weapon three, and Thor. Stanley Tucci was Arthur, Captain America the First Avenger, Conclave, and a movie called Monkey Shines What? About a helper monkey.

If you watch Righteous Gemstones These cannot be Tucci's credits you've got up here. Listen to this. What's what's wrong with Conclave? Nothing is wrong with Conclave. It it is and that's fine.

But I'm just like, I you know? What's wrong with monkey shots? Save save the last dance. I mean, what Oh. What's the two what's the Tucci movie, where he he plays, like, a ridiculous evil villain, but he's so slapstick.

And I think he also plays, like, maybe Spanish. I know what you're talking about, and I will not remember it. I promise you. I won't. You'll have to look it up.

Promise you. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Keep it up.

I I really liked the monkey shines poll on that one. Just saying. I I keep pushing that movie on this file cast for some reason. Tom Sizemore, RIP, with snake, heat, Saving Private Ryan, and Point Break. Listen to our Point Break episode.

Johnny Knoxville was Eddie, Jackass the movie, The Ringer, The Luckiest Man in America, Dennis Farina, R I P, who was a real Chicago Cop Yeah. Before he became an actor. Really? I mean, that kinda checks out with how he performs, but I many plays scumbag so well. I think this is either a Walter Hill thing or Michael Mann thing or Andrew Davis thing.

It's something where he was auditioned for a director or wanted to work on something and, like, ended up making a career out of. And he's I I really like Dennis Farina. I do too. Like, that's part of why he so late in terms of making it in terms of, like, a career or whatever it was. He was had another entire career in Florida.

Plays Henry, Snatch, Reindeer Games, and Manhunter directed by Michael Mann. Jack Keller, RIP, was Leonard, Fever Pitch, Lost Highway, The Last Boy Scout. Janine Garofalo was Monica, mystery men. It's Paul from The Edit. Hey.

Listen to our mystery men episode. And congrats, Audrey, Marlene, and Zach, former future guests. We love you. Life as a house. Back to the program.

Half baked, wet, hot American summer. You can also call him Buzz Lightyear, Patrick Warburton, Walter, Get Smart, The Emperor's New Groove, b movie. All sides port to you. Ben Foster, baby Ben Foster was Matt. Hell or high water.

What a movie. What a performance. I haven't seen that one. Oh, boy. That's Okay.

That's a winner. Okay. Oh, that's a good one. The messenger hustle. I think I probably already said those.

Katie, let's get out of this all this. Let's have some fun. Fun facts. Fun facts, everybody. It's fun fact time.

Yeah. This was the Sofia Vergara's first appearance in American film or TV. Amazing. And my god, she looks like a baby. She's so her and so many of these people, Ben Foster, Zooey Deschanel, you're like, oh my goodness.

Yeah. You would say you would say Letucci a little. You're like, what? What? You have hair?

Although he's younger now, I don't understand any of it. He's just dignified, and he's just going to Italy. Oh, all the time. All the time. He has carpet from Italy in all of his shoes.

And then wine in his flask everywhere he can. Right. Yeah. Interior shots of the Miami Herald office building were actually shot at the Miami Herald. The crew ran over a few hours, but were allowed to stay because Dave Barry, the then a columnist for The Herald who wrote the book, the movie is based upon.

That's awesome. I think that's very fun. I do too. I I mean and, you know, we all know what it's like to go over, over time. Don't we, though?

We're golden time, baby. Golden time. The song heard in the Hummer that Dwight Myers, AKA heavy d, Omar Epps, and Ginny Garofalo sequester on the way to the airport is Big Trouble sung by Myers himself. I love that Big Trouble has a song called Big Trouble I know. With someone who appears in the movie.

I know. I love that Big Trouble in Little China has a song called Big Trouble in Little China by the Coupe DeVils that was headed by the director of that movie who appears in the music video, one John Carpenter. I just like it's Illuminati moments. We're gonna find them. It is.

It is. The the connections are everywhere, and this is connected. Was it was all trying to predict 09:11. It was all there. Somebody called whoopsie.

He was right all along. Also, can we just, like, take a moment to appreciate Heavyd's performance? I thought it was actually pretty okay. I thought he and Omar Epps Yes. Other than where it's like, you guys are dressed way too well to be.

That's the only thing that makes me felt like I was like, are you guys actually assassins, or are you actually FBI agents? Because you're dressed, like, very well. You're very much pimping in Florida. Yeah. They look great.

Yeah. They do. They do. Dennis Farida describes two characters as moron number one and moron number two. He also does this in Midnight Run, another great movie, where he plays another, believe it or not, mafia type.

Dude, he was so good at playing mafia types. He's so great. And may maybe it was Martin Brest. I don't I don't know exactly what his first appearance was, but I just he just really owns that. Right?

Yeah. No. Definitely. It it and it's also like, he can give such a, like, slapback line. So, usually, only a Chicago Cop could.

Yeah. The film was scheduled for release in late two thousand one. It was delayed to April 2002 after the September eleventh attacks due to the plot line of a bomb smuggled onto a plane, which is played for laps in the film. It's all so funny. I will admit, the thing that I laughed at in that whole thing was how slickly Tom Sizemore drops the gun in the tray to the lady and just grabs it.

I'm like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. That was very slick.

And it was very much LAX. And Yeah. That actually kinda blew me away. I was like, that actually looks like LAX. Right?

It was pretty solid. Like Yeah. There are things about this movie up to and including the sets and locations that really work. Yeah. No.

Definitely. Even the even the, like, the water gun play with the kids. Like, I remember playing stupid games like this or playing Yeah. With airsoft guns in the park or something like that Yep. Pulled over by the cops and saying, like, you shouldn't do this.

Friend of the podcast, Josh Yoshkovich, he and his little buddies would do it with Nerf guns that they would reinforce with, layers and layers and layers and layers and layers of duct tape. Oh, no. And and do this in public at movie theaters and arcades and malls and things of that nature and get in trouble all the time. But, like, the the Nerf bullets would actually hurt because they caught so much tape on them. Oh god.

Yeah. You said you may have a log line for this. You wanted to take a stab at improving the log line? I I do. Tim Allen stars in a bomb movie supposed to be released on 09/15/2001, and it's a comedy.

Stars in a stars stars in a bomb movie or stars in a bomb movie? In a bomb on a plane. Very important we distinguish. Yes. I'm sorry.

The the listener, I thought it was a happy bomb and not a September 2001 bomb. Not at all. Not that at all. Never forget. I I was playing basketball today.

I lost, nine to eleven. Oh. And when it got over, my buddy was like, alright. That's it. 09:11, and I just stared at him.

And then he had, like, a little hearty chuckle similar to that after Yay. Yeah. Well, do I can I shall I read the log line? Please read the log line. I like yours better.

The lives of several Miami Densians from ad agents to gun runners to street thugs to law enforcement to school children to fast food employees to postal employees to hookers and pimps and Singing press guy agents. Yeah. It just starts with construction people say every job ever intersect with humorous and dangerous results. Freedom dangerous. Oh my gosh.

Freedom dangerous. I think it's a better title. We are going to take a short break. Gonna get as stoned as we can, as quick as we can. We promise.

We are so excited to come back and talk to you more about Big Trouble in Miami Beach, not Little China. This summer, from the makers of Cool Butt, smoking to live, smoking to die, And he was too young for the roller coaster comes freedom dangerous. In a world of darkness and deception, void of all hope and humanity, A monstrous alien race threatens to wipe out all inorganic life across the globe. Only naturally occurring things will be left, and no one is safe. No one will die or really be hurt, but you won't be able to use your phone.

You won't be able to play Fortnite or anything because all the phones and that kind of stuff will be gone. You'll have no phone, no TV, no polyester for your workout stuff or asbestos. And only Ron the Don Digamintusic can save us from a future with ourselves screaming across the endless hellscape, surrounded only by each other and our pets and stuff like that. That movie? Hardy chuckles, says Ben McFadden.

Run BMC on Letterboxd. It's almost a shot for shot remake of an officer and a gentleman. I have no idea what's happening here. At Paul acts badly on Letterboxd exclaims, I was chuckling hardily throughout, but who is this even for really? Katie Hampton, special co host of the Review Review podcast at Review x two podcast on Insta and Blue Sky is quoted, I was so astonished.

Where'd all that money go? How was this $380,000,000? I couldn't help but kind of very rhythmically and loudly express my amusement through my entire body and audibly too. This must be some kind of tax shelter, right? Freedom dangerous.

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If you're here to listen to Ben, great news. Nope. Katie is here. I'm If you're here to listen to me, are you okay? I'm the voice doppelganger to Ben.

It's like I'm listening into a mirror. Exactly. So normally, we would play cinephile here where we would look at some strangely drawn cards and some hard to read font, but we don't have those cards with us. Ben has them. He keeps them with him at all times.

The only way to kill him is to get the cards away from him. Okay. Good to see you. You know. So Katie is going to do the honor of telling us a little bit more about her first experience and original rating and then up to date experience and current rating?

So the first time I watched this movie, it was because of the confusion of Big Trouble in Little China slash Big Trouble. I watched it. I I got stoned off my rocker and watched this movie and was absolutely floored, a, by the timing of the story of the movie itself, how wacky it was, how many people appeared that I was like, So I'm gonna get this I'm gonna give this a four out of five, Doobie, movie. So that when you very first watched it Very first watched it. Four out of five.

Four out of five, Doobie. Okay. So, like, approaching get shorty status ish. It was. Yeah.

Especially the first time I watched it. It. Keep in mind, I think I had four out of five when I when I watched this. It it was such a fun it was so unexpected. I was not expecting Tim Allen to be as funny and as honestly kind of lovable as I remembered him being in the Santa Claus or the Santa Claus two.

Mhmm. But, then upon rewatch, I was like, okay. So substance use with this movie is definitely recommended. Okay. Well, it's like looking up some of the history and some of the, like, fun behind the scenes stuff.

I do recommend that. So I would say it's about, you know. Three out of five nonalcoholic beers on the Totally different experiences. Very different experiences. Very different.

Highly recommend the four out of five. Alright. I had never seen this. Really? I'd never seen this ever.

I don't think I'd ever even seen a piece of this on cable Oh, wow. Anything like that. Yeah. It's you can't really find it anywhere. No.

I had to rent it from the Bezos. Oh. I had to borrow it from Bezos. That's okay. It's alright.

I couldn't I decided to save the 40¢ and not give it to Walmart. So Sure. Gave it to Bezos. I I had median expectations for this movie Yeah. Where the only couple times I'd heard anything about it, people were like, just don't.

Just let Get Shorty or whatever that little universe that may or may not exist is. Just let it exist in that movie. And I think I get why. Mhmm. I am kind of left like I was when we walked away from Half Baked, but that was a movie I'd seen many times.

Mhmm. I'm not like, this was so horrible. This was so awful. This was poorly made. This was poorly acted.

Any of that stuff. No. But not everything, not a whole lot lands super hard with me. But I did have a couple of really hearty chuckles at moments that I did not expect that were very satisfying. I think I put it pretty plainly in the reading of the folks involved with this movie.

Oh, I thought this was just scored by a button on a Casio keyboard. I do not enjoy the score to this movie. I there's a a movie called Miracle Mile that exists with Anthony Edwards, not the basketball player, but the actor from ER. And I don't know. There there are so many movies about this kind of group of people or this scenario that I don't know.

I walked away with a very wobbly, can't get the stairs up, kinda, you know, can't climb. We'll see where we end up. I'm at two and a half Oh, nice. Geo Metros. Oh, okay.

Okay. I had to go with the Geo Metro. We're gonna talk about the Geo Metro a good amount. The Geo Metro is such a such a thing in this movie where the son defines the dad by the purchase of that car. Yeah.

Yeah. Katie, you're at a three. I'm at a two and a half. Mhmm. It's time we start the movie.

God damn movie. God damn movie. God damn movie. And And now our feature presentation. Jason Lee, who is a former professional skateboarder, actor, and involved with a church or was involved with a church of some sort and playing a Jesus avatar here.

Yep. And we have some narration of kind of, like, the Noah's Ark story or and Elliot's story. Yeah. It's I remember the first time I watched this, and then I remembered this last time I watched this. Totally sober.

First time I watched this, I was like And Abeers. What is this? And also the title cards alone that kind of look like a MS DOS icon or something. I feel like it looks like graphics for, like, a hotel brochure or video to, like, come visit us. Like, that sort of a thing.

I can feel also in the voice over as as Tim Allen's getting yelled at by this horrible guy who wants to fucking advertise downriver rail or whatever. And I can feel so Tim Allen, like, anticipating being interrupted Yeah. In that in these moments. And I I I'm Yeah. Reminded where the guy's like, you don't try.

And I'm like, yeah. Do or do not. There is no try. Goddamn it. Yeah.

That one line that someone said better. Right. That that puppet did so well. Yeah. Well and I mean, what we don't really know a whole honestly, Tim Allen's kind of not really the main character, but is?

He's like the hero, but he's not really the main character. I'm with you. I don't know who it is. I don't think there is one. I think it's it's an ensemble piece for sure.

Yeah. And and I never feel like I'm, you know, looking around where's Pucci. I'm never wondering where Tim Allen is really or what he's doing. The only person I wonder what they're doing at any point is Stanley Tucci, and I get a payoff for that. Yep.

But that's the the only person I'm worried about. And I guess I want Tim Allen to get a different car for his psyche and His son? His dick son? Yeah. His dick kid and what who's, like, just wrecking this car, like, just driving it into the fucking ground.

Because he's he's just an angsty teen boy, with a You're right. With spiky hair. Oh god. The spiky hair. But I love the fact that, like, they set it up, like, there's some kind of a weird mob family that he has a marketing job on the side or something.

Yeah. Like, I gotta kill this girl tonight. Yeah. He doesn't react at all where he's like, we're gonna go kill this girl. And he's like, alright.

Be careful with my geo. I my mom, had a friend a friend of the family had a geo metro. Uh-huh. It didn't matter what speed you were going. Every speed felt fast as fuck because you're going 20 miles an hour.

The windows are rattling. You can feel the the wheels. Like, that thing was really fucking something. So if you want a car that always felt super fast at any speed, the Geo Metro. It's your it's your go to.

Yeah. So forget about it. The, the original clown car. Yeah. Was this a clown car?

So now we've met, like, Tim Allen and the Dick's son and Jesus Jason Lee, and they're telling us Jesus Jason Lee's story through narration and Tim Allen's story through narration. There's a lot of leaders. Kinda mixed up. We now get Dennis Farina who arrives with his other bag man to kill Stanley Tucci who's this big asshole or whatever. And it's so much stuff.

Do you think what they're trying to say right with Jason Lee being obsessed with Cuban cuisine and Fritos that he meets Sofia Vergara who brings him Fritos, and she's I I think they're trying to say she's I don't know. I don't I don't know. So many things are happening. There's a lot that happens. You know what it feels like?

It feels like every independent film script that you cringe at when you're reading it, and you're like, what is the motivation of these characters? And it feels like the inspiration for those scripts where you're just like, you just can't have a main character wandering and then, like, go away from their narration and not be from their perspective. But they do that here. And, You can't do that. But that was the kind of thing at this time was these, like, very wacky films with kind of disconnected but ensemble pieces where everybody had just as big a part as everybody else, but they were also just as wacky and weird and Jason Lee being because he just he's homeless, unhoused.

Forgive me, Jennifer. I'm so sorry. I didn't I'm not editing that out. Okay. I'm leaving you out to dry.

Yeah. It it feels like that kind of, like, wacky humor was influenced especially in the writing, and this is where you kind of get, oh, yeah. This feels like it's in the get shorty realm because it's very quippy and fun and wacky and and, like, and dangerous, freedom dangerous, if you will. But but it doesn't really have that much connective tissue other than, like, one hot woman to the next. Sure.

So you got Renee Russo. You got Sofia Vergara. You just have a guy at the very beginning of the movie saying, don't advertise my beer, with a frog. That's gross. I want a woman with tits, and I wanna be looking down her boobs.

And it's like, what the fuck, guy? And then the rest of the movie is kind of like that. Like, Ginny Garofalo's even one of the hot girls with her Right. In the bustier. Yeah.

I know that, Petra Warburton is daydreaming about. It's it's a stream of consciousness movie is what it feels like. I've never seen Southland tales. I don't know if that even rings any bells for anyone that's listening to this or you, Katie. It's the same director as Donnie Darko.

It was the follow-up to Donnie Darko. Oh. And, apparently, it's a lot of kind of separate things that are, you know, New Year's Day or Valentine's Day or this movie where all these different people are doing these different things that somehow intersect or whatever. The bar fight thing that happens and the suitcase that Jason Lee just lifts this easily and packs it around really easily, and it's really heavy for everyone else. Yeah.

And I think they're almost trying to say, like, this guy is Weirdly strong. Yeah. Like, is he Jesus? You know? Maybe.

Maybe. He's he's very Buddhist in his approach Yeah. Which does feel very Jesus y, and I do kind of miss this weird magical element in movies in the nineties and early two thousands because it was just like yeah. The like, the fact that Dennis Farina is there to kill Stanley Tucci while, Ben Foster is also there to squirt Zooey Deschanel. And also, I love that they do a long running gag about squirting girls and barely reference, or we get the camera over that.

But, like like, there's so much kismet. There's so much, like, oh, what a coincidence that he happened to be in this tree where It's like a farce. It it's a total mess. Yeah. I didn't mean to cut you off.

Sorry. Go ahead. I don't I don't think I had much more to that. No. It's weird, though.

You don't you don't really get that anymore. You don't get that kind of coincidental. No. I agree with you. I think there's a level of wanting to kinda spoon feed audiences rather than leave them having conversations or thoughts.

Even in movies like this that are kind of disjointed or whatever it is, this is as I was saying, like, I wanna talk about this movie because there's so much happening. What what is real? What is not? What does this mean? It's there's so much of this shit.

It's even when he pets right here, the scraggly, like, cat and finds the the tree, and it's Kismet, as you were saying, where he sees Sofia Vergara and, like, all this Martha Stewart shit happening as Ben Foster and Dennis Farina and everybody are infiltrating Stanley Tucci's house because there's, like, a price on Stanley Tucci's head. Mhmm. And Ben Foster supposed to squirt Zooey Deschanel with a squirt gun for their killer game. And the foot massage that Stooch Tucci gives Sofia Vergara is I couldn't fucking watch the whole thing. I turned away.

I did too. I was like, this is a scene for Quentin Tarantino's eyes only. Yeah. It was This was just a pitch to This is a pitch deck for, Tucci to get into the Tarantino film. No.

I honestly I I I think I even wrote down while watching this. I wrote down a note where I was like, god. I hope that's a, like, stunt double for the feet. And then, like, then it goes to a wide, and it just shows her foot in his like, deep in his mouth. And I was like, woah.

Oh, yeah. Just hoping to god it's a rubber foot. It's like a foot from one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle costumes from the nineties or something. It's just paint on it. Different paint.

I just when he says, you work for me. This is my house, and I wanna suck your toes. I'm just like, what the actual fuck? After after getting the the beautiful character set up of I lost him after the third Scotch. Oh, yeah.

And the entire time, he's just making drinks. Like, he's plastered this entire movie. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. In one way or another, he is plastered this entire movie.

Because we meet the toad here Oh, the toad. The obvious, like, fake Budweiser toad. Yes. But that That gets the dog high. Is that also supposed to be connected to, the beer guy?

Because wasn't it it was, like, some kind of toad, like, bullfrog beer or something like that. Yeah. Right? It's all it's all Illuminati, like, like in nine eleven. Steel doesn't melt at that temperature.

Come on. Also, like, Tucci's shirt and Ben Fot like, Foster's shirt and the color of this Geo Metro, what is this metallic puke green? I don't know. I had hoop earrings that color at that time. Oh, good for you.

Yeah. They were I was only but 55. Yeah. So but I just buttoning? Always.

But this movie is it's kinda ugly to look at a lot of the time. Yeah. And I Yeah. Feel like that's intentional. It is.

It's weird because I don't know if it's, like, something to do with the color grading or what, but, like, all the obnoxious colors are so loud and so obnoxious. And all of the, like, background characters are oddly very real. Gator fans. They're all Gator fans. They're all Gator fans.

Oh. I do love that running bit. It got me one time really good. That was one of the moments. Which what?

The Gator fan one where they're on the radio, like, at the airport, and something Farina does or whatever. I just it fucking got me that they never just I appreciate so hard when a a bit is not let go of. Yeah. Especially when it if it doesn't land quite so well the first time, and then it just ups it the second, and then you Yep. And then it goes for a fifth time.

I appreciate the commitment to to a bit. I do too. I do wanna ask how much of a bump you thought Tucci got for licking Sofia Vergara's toes. You mean, how much did he pay them out of his check? I said, I I I don't understand the percentage thing.

I'm screwed. So I don't either. I don't either. I I don't like, a mouth anywhere near toes is so gross. I can only imagine you would do that if you'd be willing to pay to do it.

Like, I don't know. Like Yeah. I I don't know. I can't fathom any of it, but let's say I mean, because to me, that does that to me, that would be a stunt bump. Yeah.

And I would want a few grand for it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah.

But there there would be a rider in my contract Yeah. If I have to do anything. I keep all my costumes. I keep the Geo Metro. And the foot thing, we're we're talking about that.

And at the wrap party, I get squirted in the face by the frog. Yeah. There you go. Yes. Oh my god.

Yeah. When the dog is hallucinating, like, it that also and whatever is happening with the dog, like, in that moment when the dog gets squirted, it doesn't, like, super work for me. Like, it's, like, apparently, the dog just always The the dog know. It's, like, the the narration. I honestly don't remember whether it was, Timothy or Tim Allen, but someone explains that the dog hadn't really eaten anything but dirt for the last couple of days because this weird random frog is blocking his food bowl.

Right. And, apparently, Martha Stewart really did come and shoot the, like, face stuff where when he's tripping balls. He's squirting in the face stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Wild. So when the cops arrive here and they're going and it's Warburton and Garofalo, and he, I think, is really solid in this movie, Warburton Yeah. Where you get the feeling that he's just, like is just a really, really horny dude. Yeah. And it never feels like, I don't know how to put it, where it doesn't feel like predatory.

It's weird because he has odd respect for Ginny Garofalo's character. Right. It's not like he obviously thinks about the moment he saw her her bustier. Yeah. Which I'm sorry.

But any cop wearing that kind of lingerie while on the job. She was already stripping after hours. Like, come on. Yeah. Right.

That's just for efficiency. But I also did not see Tim Allen as, like, the sex monger stealing stealing Tucci's wife type of character. It there is some weird, confused sexuality in this movie. I find it interesting that Dave Barry or Barry Sonnenfeld are both were like, you know who the avatar is? Like, that chick for for Dave Barry, the chicks really wanna fuck?

Tim Allen. Who's up? It's like Let's get Tim Allen. I was just like, oh, a sex symbol Tim Allen. It's a new one for me.

So much happens within just this location in general. Yeah. But, like, you know, Dennis Farina shoots the gun that destroys the TV, but at the same time that Ben Foster tackles Zooey Deschanel. And then somehow Tucci's I mean, look. Tucci's a couple of scotches deep.

Right. He thinks that the kid broke his TV. Yeah. How exact did he make him toss his glass into I don't know. I don't know how that logic works, but whatever.

No. But I do love the fact that Patrick Warburton picks up the bullet, and he's like, oh, we've got a case now. It goes into these weird noir zones at times. Like, I think as a whatever genre this movie is ultimately outside of, like, kind of like a comedic fantasy is, like, it bounces around a lot, and the tone can be weird. Especially, the movie is just lit.

Like, we were talking about, it's, like, very bright movie. Very. We've had a lot of these movies, but Jason Lee is Jesus. As We're talking about brightly lit the way they halo him Mhmm. Here after he tackles whatever for it.

Like, he breaks everything up. He he there's that. Jumps so he's I get lost. No. I know.

I get it. Trust me. I understand. The this is a very intense sequence where Jason Lee is up in the tree house, I guess, platform Yeah. Or That he's that he's gonna live in.

That he's squatting in and getting his sandwiches from Sofia Vergara, with his Fritos, by the way. Yeah. The fact that he has to go hit somebody Corn oil and salt, babe. That means Gotta love it. Super Cajun.

Corn oil and salt, babe. So the ingredients You never know, babe. Nice. Mhmm. He jumps down after Farina tries to shoot Tucci, but every you know, the whole big hullabaloo.

Everybody's down. Nobody's hurt. Jason Lee sees the gun, jumps down on Dennis Farina, and then grabs the gun away from him, and then points it at him. And then Dennis Farina just reasons with him with the sound of police coming. Yeah.

You don't wanna be holding that gun, which is not necessarily a bad logic. He's not wrong. Like, if you're Jason Lee, there's a lot of wisdom in that statement. So it's like, yeah. You just take this and get out of here.

And this is another laugh that I have. Okay. Dennis Farina on the little pay phone, like, bent over. And some dudes come to rob him, and he's just like, fucking not right now. Like, I'm on a tiny payphone.

I couldn't finish my job. Like, I will just fucking no. Thank you. Yeah. And the who says they're all sniffing glues, Tucci?

I think so. Yeah. About all the kids. So I, when I was in sixth grade Oh my god. I was 19.

Woah. You got a weird Benjamin buddy. Me me and my me and my butt little buddy at the time were, like, riding on our jeans in whiteout, and our choir teacher was like, these guys are sniffing whiteout? Sniffing glue. They love coke cocaine.

And I got suspended from school for that. So writing on your pants with whiteout? Yep. Because I was, you know You never know, babe. We're getting too high, I guess.

I this is one of the lines too, though, where there are just so many characters already, and I'm glad that everybody kinda gets an an opportunity at the least to say something with the exception of, like, Tamala and Renee Russo, weirdly. Yeah. But where Janine Garofalo kinda big dicks Tucci and says, like, sorry, but I'm busy. My hands are full holding my dick and all. Like, after he's, like, being an asshole through this whole thing.

I I'm with you here. You've said, like, you you like the Tim Allen performance overall. Right? Overall. Yeah.

I mean Yeah. For for what the movie is it does feel a little bit like this movie was originally written by someone else and then rewritten with good jokes and actual connections to plot. Okay. Not real plot. I don't know.

It's it's a wild movie. It does feel like there's a a little bit of, like, safety tape on some areas. Okay. I feel that too. Yeah.

I don't know if this scene is safety tape, like a reshoot thing or whatever, because it's all, like, pretty solidly delivered exposition between these two actors that I find some chemistry here a a little bit. And so, like, it's it's working. Like, them going over their whole, like, oh, we're both divorcees, like, trying to raise our kids in a harsh world and whatever. And Tim Allen taking the kid home, and the kid's like, you know, you bought this Geo Metro. You're a loser.

And he's like, you're a little fucking piece of shit. He has, like, some moments. There are moments where I think everybody you know, I was saying Tim Allen maybe doesn't have one, but I do like that moment, I guess, where he is like, I we're being honest with each other. Right? We're communicating, and you're a piece of shit.

Yeah. And, honestly, it it was one of those things that felt like, oh, he was on this, like, family friendly sitcom for so many years. Yeah. I bet it felt good to tell a little asshole with spiky hair. Yeah.

A little piece of shit. All he he saw, like, Jonathan Taylor Thomas's face superimposed over that kid just like like Martha Stewart over the dog. Yeah. I I wonder if that I wonder if I wonder if the frog or the toad. Sorry.

It's the toad. Yeah. I wonder if the toad squirted us in the The toad and I. Yeah. Wise.

The toad and I. So Puggy gets lunch Fritos from Sofia Vergara. Freaking puggy. Even though he's there for the Cuban food, that's what brought him there. And but also I know.

The the Cuban food thing never pans out, and it's just Fritos. Did they ever say Sevilla Vergara is Cuban? I don't think they make that connection, but well done on the flavor profile. You need to go to a flavor town. I guess.

They did not Like Tucci did? Yeah. Right? Oh, god. So Just like every time he spreads the first the big toe and the second toe, I'm like, oh.

And they're just like full on full on shoves it in his mouth. I can't remember. It's so it's rough. Yeah. I can I'll never look at that man the same way ever again.

I find Stanley Tucci delightful. Tucci is great. So someone who's not great even though he is because he he nails the role, but the dude who comes in and he's like, there gotta be more tits in the fucking ads. And Rene Russo shows up clearly just to see Tim Allen, and they just fucking go at it. Yep.

And, again, this, again, this seems like a writer or someone like that being like, yeah. And this is when, he fucks that lady. Like, for sure. It definitely it it definitely felt like a a beat sheet that they just kind of Yeah. Script.

Like, it wasn't even, like, a fully fleshed out beat sheet. It was just, like and in this beat, they finally get together, and then the marketing creepo dude wants to get in on it too. Right. I do like some of the things where it's like they kinda try to touch on Rene Russo maybe being, like, some sort of femme fatale, like, energy at a couple points, and then, like, that doesn't really go anywhere. But then there's this Stanley Tucci looking kind of like Audrey Hepburn, like, which is funny.

And I also kinda laughed when Tim Allen says, like, yeah. But we have good teeth. And I was like, does Tim Allen have good teeth? Good teeth? What?

No. It's a way out of left field line. Yeah. I'm like, I feel I feel like Tim Allen and Kim Kevin Costner have similar to I don't I don't know if they're famous for their teeth. I don't either.

I maybe that was something he was trying to get in the zeitgeist. He was like, that that was his marketing ploy. Tell everyone I have good teeth. I was this close to closing a deal with Crest. Crest.

Yeah. Nerd culture is And instead it went to the woman who's now in severance. There's a word. Oh, yeah. Means you're the one that's out of this egg, guys.

Can we also just say that 10 for a hit feels a little low? But, I mean, maybe that's just me? Well, they got 25 each, which is still to me, like, you you can have someone killed untraceably for $25,000. Oh my god. Yeah.

Mhmm. But the thing's full bleh. But But they they added They're willing to continue going through all the bullshit for a total additional $20.10 each. It was the way I understood it. Okay.

And the Farina request at the cigar lunch where it's, like, just put out the cigars, like, be polite. Yeah. With the marketing douchebag being the guy. Right. How did you I it's like I do to a degree, but there's so many things that I see in this movie where it's like, I like this better in Goodfellas or whatever, or Carlyle's way or whatever it is.

So and I know this movie isn't trying to be those movies. It's just trying to homage those types of characters. All the time, it's homaging different characters in different movies. Yeah. And so the cigar requests and some of the lines there are alright.

I do like where he takes the guy's right hand Mhmm. And, like, kinda pops it back and goes back to enjoying his steak or whatever because he's like steak in the crab house. Yep. Yeah. In the crab which yeah.

I'm that guy. So Paul Of course. That guy. So fuck off. Like Yeah.

Yeah. Listen. I get what I want my steak. Experience. Yeah.

Also, those Scotch glasses that or whatever they had, brandy Brandy maybe? Yeah. Maybe. Some Those were pretty full, and they did not look like cheap brandy. No.

Well, and the dude who just, like, puts his cigar in because he's gotten big dick by Farina was pretty that was That was a nice little gag. Yeah. Johnny Knoxville and Tom Sizemore who got into the bar scuffle that we had mentioned earlier without mentioning them and these and at that Russian bar that's full with all these weapons and shit Yep. They're Not my board. In yeah.

Involved in the my board. They're involved in this whole thing too because Tucci is buying the bomb because he deals arms. Yep. To And it looks like a garbage disposal to everyone. So have you seen true lies?

Oh, I I have seen pieces of it. I Okay. Fell asleep. I'm not gonna lie. Oh, no.

That's okay. It is a movie that feels, like, longer than it is kinda like this. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.

So there is a part in that movie it's been thirty fucking years, people. There's a part in that movie where he's a hostage, and they show him a nuclear warhead, and he's still trying to act like he's, you know, undercover as a spy, but they know he is is an expert and a badass now. And they're they show him a nuclear warhead, and he goes, is it the water heater? Is it an espresso machine? And so there's something about that true lie.

Again, where it's like, I feel like I've seen this or heard this before, and maybe I liked it in something else better. This, though, works for me so hard because there are things about this movie that make me think about Arrested Development. I'm not entirely sure why. Okay. You're nodding.

You feel this as well? I I can kinda I can get it because the narration, and the freeze frames, I'm I'm thinking. And then I'll also the, like, unlovable characters sometimes going towards the right decisions. Good. Well, yeah, like pairing up and doing yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Twinning some people and, Yes. Doing sort of, like, a yin yang type of thing with others. Yeah.

Like, Puggie with the with Johnny Knoxville. I can't believe we haven't even talked about Johnny Knoxville being in this freaking movie yet. He's The role is, like, he's good in it, but there's not, like, a lot to do other than just, like, kind of Mug mug read the yeah. And mug and read lines as written. I do love this Andy Richter thing, though, where Yes.

In the air tonight comes on. Like, it's like, oh, this is before The Hangover, and I really like this. This is funny. And I'm thinking about Arrested Development as I'm watching this movie, and I'm like, oh, shit. Here's Andy Richter.

That's funny because, you know, he's in Arrested Development playing quadruplets or whatever it is. Right. And then a guy walks by in the background in an orange jumpsuit like he's Job or, George or George Bluth, like, being in prison or white power bill or whoever Yeah. In that show. And I'm like, this is wild.

And then the fact that Andy Richter plays twins in this and multiple roles in Arrested Development, Illuminati moments, Katie. I'm telling you, there's something there's something about this movie, man. There's something about it. They knew something. And yet Should've They knew it.

Handed the ball off. Yeah. Yeah. And It's a confounding movie for several reasons. I think, a, to try and describe this movie is weird.

Yes. Watch this movie. I highly recommend any kind of substance that you're into. Even if it's Tylenol PM. Try it.

Sure. You know? Like, I mean, don't go overboard. I don't recommend it. With an Advil PM, though.

You know? Fucking take a walk on the wild side. No, Paul. There's some wackiness to this that's you almost you have to buy it because from the jump, you've got Jason Lee as Jesus, and you're like, what the hell is this movie? You're gonna ask that the entire movie.

You're right. And every person that comes up on screen, Johnny Knoxville Yeah. Or Andy Richter, it all feels weirdly very familiar and yet very unique and really kind of, like, happily off putting. Is that a thing? Yeah.

I'd say so. You know? Like, it's like I don't know about it for this, but I think that exists. Yeah. Okay.

It's like I don't know if I'm with you for with that applying to this movie. But I mean I get what you're saying. Because the good guys win spoilers. Good guys win in the end. You you know, quote, unquote.

But, like Well, and it it's kind of a bummer, though, that, like, the down and out guys that are just idiots and poor and uneducated and whatever are the ones who end up paying the price. And does Tucci ever pay any sort of price in the end outside of his hallucinogenic, like, free drug ride experience. I don't know. There really is. Is just yeah.

The movie is just, like, so horny in that Yeah. Where it's, like, kids talking about not looking at their tits and asses and hand jobs and shit like that where I'm, like, overwhelmed with, I guess, the legitimacy of the way it portrays how I talk to I'm in my I'm almost 84 years old. When I was a teenager and my other little delinquent teenage buddies, we all talk to each other like these Yeah. Kids in this movie talk. Yeah.

No. I I honestly thought Zooey Deschanel was, like, any old friend at the same time. I like Okay. It was very believable performance, and I love that she also nerded out on random things. Yeah.

Okay. I I just need to take a moment to remember Patrick Warburton. Mhmm. The final moments of towards the end of this movie in the third act of this movie Okay. Has wild change.

It's like Oh, yeah. It's prompted that, like, he's he sees a woman, and he wants to drive off in the cop car, and then he remembers this weird cross section where he saw Ginny Groffel's bra. And Yeah. Then he's, like, so hyped up. He gets to the airport to help stop this bomb, and he runs into Indy Richter's twin security guards.

So crazy. That's so funny to me. Oh, and has probably the best light of this movie. It it I mean, look. Some of these lines are are wild and weird, but this is a great one where he says, look.

You gonna help me, or are you gonna be a big fat stupid asshole? Yeah. That is good. And the delivery's good. The strip search.

And it was so funny because I had completely forgotten about the strip search section. Yeah. When they do the epilogue, and he's, like, now a male stripper Okay. Yeah. I was like, wait.

How are we connecting that? And I was like, oh, because he liked running completely nude through the airport. There was a level of dangerous freedom. Yes. No.

Freedom dangerous. Yes. Yes. We were named the movie. And that's Sizemore and Knoxville rob this bomb from Stanley Tucci Yeah.

Not knowing really what it is or the power, and they're kind of referred to as gator fans. And this movie just, like, beats the shit out of Florida University of Florida Gator fans the entire time. Yep. I don't wanna know why I'm not gonna research it. I just am gonna let it exist.

I yeah. And It felt like there was a lot of personal jokes. It felt like it. The partner that Farina has tells, like, this shitty joke, and I'm with Farina here about that joke and the Florida Gator fan joke at this point where I'm, like, rolling my eyes and just, like, kind of unimpressed with the joke and kind of this whole situation. But we kinda quickly get back to what's going on with Tucci because, again, that's who I wanna keep figuring out.

Right. Where's Tucci? What kind of arms dealer does he work for that I don't know. Works in a corporate office high rise? Yeah.

I don't know. I wish I knew. I but the FBI shows up now. Oh, god. Yeah.

God. And it's I'm like, oh, god. More characters. There's so many characters. I completely forgot.

Yeah. That's when heavy d comes in. Yeah. And that's when you said, oh, so in the third act, I'm like, are we sure it's not the second or the fifth or the, like No. Just the second act.

I don't know how to break this movie down, and that's one of those things is how with how my brain works. Like, I had Understandably. It's also some trouble with that to a degree. No. I I I get it, though, because we've said this.

It's amazing how, quote, short this movie is for how much they pack it. We we could go over two hours Yeah. We could. Talking about this movie easily Very easily. Without a problem.

Like, I I appreciate in this moment that Tim Allen he does have some moments. You're right. The Tim Allen I I kinda like the way it's written and the level of confidence he has when he takes apart the squirt gun, and he's like, I'm gonna save, you know, this woman that I now love and my son. Yeah. And they get taken hostage because Tom Sizemore finds out it's a squirt gun.

Right. But the the movie, like, feels so of its time outside of the neon green shirts and some of the language that's used and stuff. But it's, like, the Britney Spears references and the, like, Ford owns Jaguar. And there's just there's so many things that are specific to, I guess, like, the time and place. And I that's part of why I brought it miracle mile, actually.

I mean, I guess maybe that's why it just it feels like a reference comedy movie Okay. Yep. Without, like, making it really a part of any plot. Right. You know?

Like, the the bits and the jokes are definitely industry humor type things. Sure. I mean, even being wrapped up with the phone cords and everything. Like, it just fucking Johnny Knoxville and his stupid face the entire time. I like that, though.

I mean I know. I loved it. I'm with you. I I loved it. I was like, honestly, this might be the best role he's been in.

I was like so great in the in the Jackass movies. Yeah. He really is. He he has some performances here and there for sure, but also, like, respect to the Jackass stuff, truly. The shot misses here with all the hostages, and Tucci gets squirted.

He gets toted and sees the Martha Stewart because this movie's obsessed with Martha Stewart again again of its time. Mhmm. And the dog has Martha Stewart's, like, head and face. The Martha Stewart dog head doesn't say rough. It says something else.

Right? Like, it that's Bork or bark or harp. Oh, Herc. He he thinks it's talking to him. Yeah.

Oh, right. Run him by his name. Right. Right. Right.

Right. And so they all scatter, run to, people are all, for whatever reason, going to the airport, or happenstance or planned. So this has to continue. Again, this was all plotted. This was all designed.

Yep. Well, we'll talk to mister again. I we're gonna have him on. But the the they're all going to the airport, and this is where the gator radio thing, like, gets me when Dennis Farina turns on the radio, and it's just, like, it's inescapable. Mhmm.

Does any of the gator radio stuff work for you, or is that just all beating a horse? I remember not remembering it from the first time, and watching it on Monday, I was like, oh, yeah. I for what is it? Like, the first time it hit, I was like, oh, okay. And then the second time it hits, I was like, oh, yeah.

This is a running bit. Why is this a running bit? But, like, I'm also saying why is this to, like, 30 other things that are happening. Like, why why is this person in this movie? Why is this in this movie?

What what what it I it didn't not hit for me. I did love when the person came on and was like, well, I'm a fan, and I I'm gonna be on your show or whatever. Like, it it felt like every shock jock radio program of ever or just an Internet comment section. Got it. I totally get what you're saying.

I think it must be that Dave Barry must have gone to University of Miami, or it's a Miami Herald thing or something maybe. So they're just, like, dogging on University of Florida. I think this is the next to last pretty solid laugh I have. I do like the John Smith thing when it hits a certain kind of crescendo of Tom Sizemore just staring. Yes.

Yes. Just so committed, ready to hand over the money. Because I'd be We're gonna flee. I also love just the tiniest detail when he hands over just the biggest wad of cash. Yeah.

Which where did he get the cash from? Tucci had $5 in his pocket. That's what it was. Okay. I was like, I know he got it from something, but I couldn't remember whose pocket or who it was from.

When he hands her the big pot of cash and she grabs the cash to count out, what, like, $300 four people to The Bahamas from Miami. Yes. Not even $400. Dollar 1 one way trip. Oh my god.

Yeah. And you see as as her hand crosses over the computer screen, it just has an out of order sticky note. Yeah. So it's like she can't help them anyway. And then also, what a great eighties trope.

Just has the tickets ready. I yeah. Somehow, like, they were already preprinted waiting for it to be handed to four people named John Smith. Yep. She also is great in men in black, another Seinfeld movie where she's like, Edgar, skin is hanging off your bones, where it's like, I wonder if it seems like they've worked with each other.

She she's so great. I want her in that role. One of those character actors that, like, I I wish I could remember her name because every time she pops up. Right now, it's escaping me. Yeah.

No. I'm We went through the whole fucking cast of Hook. I know. What a couple of assholes. That is too cheap on a Davenport list.

Get through customs or whatever very easily, which, again, I found out apparently in my life, in my existence, is super fast and easy to do. But they get a bomb or garbage disposal through no problem, a gun through no problem with a very slick little move. Mhmm. And this is where I've noticed, like, there hasn't been narration for a while, and there isn't narration for a while. And There isn't a main character for a while.

Yeah. That's really well put. And we get the guy from earlier with the cigars that loves tits and, like, we're supposed to hate this guy, understandably. They lay it on pretty thick. Boy.

And when his window comes down and he raises his left hand that's bandaged, I'm like, his right hand was the one that got hurt. This is where I'm like, I'm drawing the line, like, which is so dumb. This is where continuity. Yeah. Continuity.

Yes. I do love the Andy Richter playing twins. I I I'm like, yay. You're things that make me think of Arrested Development. I'm so excited.

What a weird thing. It almost feels like they ran out of money to hire a different actor that looked like this character. Did not hit her. Because they had so many cast members. My mark.

Yeah. Where they're like, no. We can get one more in here. Yeah. We spent it all on the background at LAX Property.

Andy for one more day. Let's just use him. It's contract. Yeah. We'll just put him in a room.

Yeah. We finally get the, like, the save the day moment with Tim Allen. One of the most unbelievable things is Tim Allen running alongside a plane Yes. Unable to catch it. He, like, junk unnecessarily hops over a railing, and, like, the movie gets very dark for a moment where you're like, who's that?

No. I know. I was like Who is that jumping over that? Okay. Somebody's somebody's putting in their resume for action films going forward.

Honestly, I do think that after this, he may have been given, like, different types of roles had this been in an alternate universe. Oops. Sorry. Oh, nice karate chop. I know.

Right to the microphone. I would get you different kind of roles in a different universe. It's really working. It is. It is.

But when he somehow boards this plane Yeah. And the FBI is chasing, like, heavy d's and Omar Epps is after them and these terrible green screen planes. Oh my god. It's so clear they didn't have the passengers and the pilots on the same day just by Right. The angle of The cockpit's a different set.

It's a totally different set. And I love, like, when they're shouting through the curtain, I guess Yeah. To their passengers. I was like, that is a completely different ceiling. Yes.

Like, they've thrown continuity out the fucking window, like, where it's like, did you guys shoot this in order or, like, in act chunks? How how did the so I don't know. The mission is now after Tim Allen is a real hero, bunking on Johnny Knoxville and going after Tom Sizemore who beat up poor Jason Jesus Lee. Yep. And they gotta get this suitcase off of this goddamn plane.

And so they finally get it out of the plane, and Tom Sizemore hits water and goes fathoms underwater. With a mushroom cloud explosion. Miles high. Miles. Miles.

That no one, you know, in Florida seems to have noticed nor is on the news nor anyone seems to acknowledge. Yeah. So I have a question for you here too. So we've established that it seems like Tim Allen was gonna close the deal with Crest. Like, there was gonna be something with Crest.

Yeah. Oh, no. Not again. Tim Allen, when he's like, get off my plane to Tom Sizemore Uh-huh. He says, have it your way.

Was he trying to be the Burger King as well? I don't know because sometimes these lines are fucking hilarious, and sometimes they're like, what are you doing? That's why it feels like so many different writers touched this project. It really does. And the three credited writers feel like a small amount Yeah.

Compared to what it probably actually was. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. I feel like a lot of people weren't mentioned maybe in the credits.

Yeah. I also find it interesting they take a a little bit of a shot at w here is I think it's pretty well documented that Tim Allen is a Republican leaning person. Oh, yeah. And so the George w being like, we don't have any medals for you, but there's boots and a hat. Or I guess Yeah.

With w's on it. Yeah. With the yeah. It's like the Trump cufflinks from The Apprentice. If you haven't seen that, you should watch it.

It's pretty good. Oh, god. Have you seen it? I haven't, but I I heard was Sebastian Stan? No.

Yeah. Good good performance by him. I love the Jeremy Strong performance. Yeah. I liked the movie.

But as you as you're kind of cringing, it also is, like, it's a difficult watch at at times. Yeah. I feel like, you know, if I'm alive in hopefully four years, you know, or god, it might be longer. Who knows? Maybe I'll watch it then.

I just I I Yeah. Fair. Fair. Fair. Enough of him everywhere, and I don't care if someone does a really great spot on impression.

No. I watched, like, 11 movies on the way to and from on this flight. And so I I I'm I'll sit here and talk to you about kill him. Paul, I have the the cinephile cards. I can't be killed now.

I got them from Ben. Is that why he's immortal and you're Benjamin Buttoning? Yes. Oh. You figured out the mystery.

Oh. So The Illuminati. The end of the movie. Then all The confirmation of the Illuminati. One of the most cringeworthy lines post 09:11.

Sometimes you can't get away when a bomb gets dropped in your way. Oh, woah. What? Yeah. I mean What?

No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you can't get away when a bob gets dropped in your way.

Not quite rhyming. Yikes. I might I I might honestly be reporting that line incorrectly, but I remember, like, hearing that and just being like Sounded about right. Oh, what a thing to end off. Yikes.

I'm with you. Freedom danger. Freedom danger. After watching the movie. All.

And the character the character wrap ups now that we get some of what's happening for some of the people? Yeah. Few select people. Yeah. Any any changes to your ratings?

Or Yeah. I also am hitting something as I'm saying the, like, yeah, there are a few people that get wrap ups or, like, this is what's happening for these people, and it's not necessarily everyone that it's like, wait. These are the people Yep. That you're going over? These Yep.

Okay. Fine. The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer and deaded. Right. It's barely half a car already anyway.

I'm gonna give it two Geo Metros. Two full Geo Metros from the 2.5. Wow. I'm gonna go down a half. Yeah.

Partly, I think talking about it, I was really hoping I was gonna like the music more based on the composer and based on the concept, and that was kind of a bummer. And yeah. Yeah. And then I found myself I was like, oh, I wanna rewatch Miracle Mile. Like, and other movies that have this kind of thing going on some sort of a ticking clock thing with some sort of a a doomsday with wacky characters.

That sort of a deal. I didn't not like things about this movie. There I get it. There are lines that made me laugh and visuals that made me laugh and performances that I enjoyed for certain, but I'm at it too. I Yeah.

It's not bad bad. I'm not upset that I watched it. I'm glad we talked about it more than anything. If we I didn't have somebody to talk about it with, I would be like, Yeah. You After watching.

You, a, have to watch it with someone, and b, Oh. You have to be able to talk about it. Well, that's part of my mistake. But, yes, network did get I did get therapy here, which was nice. Good.

Good. Thank you. I I will say I am going to change my score after everything we talked about and after realizing quite a few very Republican themes. Okay. Yes.

You know? You know, the rich get richer, and the arm salesmen Sure. Don't go to jail, and, the poor guy gets blown up in a mushroom cloud. Yeah. And Tim Allen But we got these cool boots for you.

Yeah. We got these cool boots for you. And Janine Garofalo is apparently maybe straight. I don't know. I don't I don't know.

Up is down. Down is up. I'm gonna give this no longer four four out of five blunts or, three out of, five nonalcoholic beers. I'm now going to give this two horny toads squirting on my face. Two horny toads squirting in my face, because you need some kind of substance to watch this movie.

The you have to have something. Yeah. You do. You You do have to have something. To kind of buy some of the concepts.

Like, you have to be in a wild state to appreciate the wildness of this movie. I agree. If I had taken psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho psycho Laboratories. Yeah. So but, we're both at a two.

Yeah. We're both at a two. You really do need a substance. It it's almost kinda like with half baked. It was mostly still as enjoyable as it was because I was fucking weedy ripping.

I was ripped up. You you gotta get ripped for something like that. Yes. It makes it all the funnier. It does.

Yeah. More more enjoyable. Goes on, like, just, you know, butter from a butter dish on toast. Hey. No problem.

Butter's a great movie. I gotta watch. But we brought it back. Illuminati. Illuminati.

We did it. Paul, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this. I've only told this to a a couple of people. Oh. Now listeners, you're gonna get the insight on this too.

But, one of the things that I have told my husband that I would like to start is not the Illuminati, but I wanna do something Yeah. It's already starting. Different. I wanna do something called the Illuminati. We're we're fucking mobsters for good.

Can we preach? And untie the devious web of the Illuminati? Yes. Expose all of them for their shit. Never swear.

Well, no. We can swear. We can fucking swear. We're the LGBT. We're not the we're not the illuba, like, I don't know, Presbyterian.

But we only watch Left Behind and what's that movie with with Rufio? The actual one? Extreme days. Extreme days. Extreme days.

Extreme days. We're almost too extreme. Katie, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Of course. Ben James Ben will return and bring my Benny back, you bastard. Or the swinging sexy 70 summer here on the review review. We miss you. You're in our hearts.

Yeah. You will be missed greatly as the cinephile cards were burned with your body. He's not gonna be immortal anymore. Nope. That is the direct opposite of Illuminati.

Truly. You can follow Ben on Letterboxd at Run BMC. You can follow me on Letterboxd at Paul x Badly. We'll still keep applying the pressure to Katie. Yeah.

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We have our very last show on May 21. And, if you're in the Los Angeles area, I highly recommend coming out of that because that's gonna be a really fun time. Katie, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

We would have been in big trouble had we not done this. Thanks, everyone, for tuning in. Until next time. Have a hearty laugh. Hi, everyone.

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